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Veritas

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REDGREEN VINES
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Re: Beauty [Re: DoctorJ]
#5660632 - 05/22/06 03:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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DoctorJ said: dude, she's a woman.
what more can you expect from her?
Much more than we can expect from you. Can you spell loser?
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Re: Beauty [Re: Veritas]
#5660642 - 05/22/06 03:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Alex Grey was certainly able to find beauty in death.
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Your immediate response to that picture, "before everyone gets in a huff", is a defensive statement. Defense is offense You conciously intended to offend people. To call people self deluded that would rather not see that picture when you yourself intended to offend people with that picture only causes argument.
The beauty in that picture and the beauty in Verita's pictures is the same beauty. There is no difference between "gore" beauty and nature beauty. The only difference you will find arises from your attachment to the material world. Your point that beauty and ugliness are one is true, yet your post shows that you lack a true understanding of this.
Life is not fragile, it is eternal. Our bodies that allow us to experience life are fragile.
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Re: Beauty [Re: Cherk]
#5660652 - 05/22/06 03:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Smoker For Peace said: Your immediate response to that picture, "before everyone gets in a huff", is a defensive statement. Defense is offense You conciously intended to offend people. To call people self deluded that would rather not see that picture when you yourself intended to offend people with that picture only causes argument.
The beauty in that picture and the beauty in Verita's pictures is the same beauty. There is no difference between "gore" beauty and nature beauty. The only difference you will find arises from your attachment to the material world. Your point that beauty and ugliness are one is true, yet your post shows that you lack a true understanding of this.
Life is not fragile, it is eternal. Our bodies that allow us to experience life are fragile.
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I've always thought that infamous Subgenius Paul Reuben was a truly beautiful and bizzare creation of nature.
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Re: Beauty [Re: Cherk]
#5660667 - 05/22/06 03:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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A Smile before dining?
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Re: Beauty [Re: Cherk]
#5660670 - 05/22/06 03:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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We might as well rename this thread: "Life turned against Life: The Carnage of Afterworldly Thoughts"
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Veritas

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Alex Grey was painting his emotional reaction to death...not a photorrealistic version of a gory suicide.
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I wasn't bothered by the photo of that guy. Not my first pick for beautiful but who cares.
I do remember the movie American Beauty. That young man was able to see beauty in death.
If one doesn't like the pic then you can quickly skip over it. If you can't manage that it might be good to ask yourself why?
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Re: Beauty [Re: Veritas]
#5660679 - 05/22/06 03:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Those poor fish are about to meet their cruel end to sustain that dolphin's life. How ugly! How beautiful!
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How cruel the Nazi torture and killing of all Jews was! How beautifully effective it was at changing attitudes and effecting racial progress in the 20th century! How lost we might be now without it!
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You are missing the point in the photos I posted. They all depict death (or impending death) of some kind, but with an eye for beauty and artistic composition.
We do not need gory sensationalistic images to remind us of our mortality...we can watch the seasons pass, knowing that our winter will come. We can see vast deserts, where once was an ocean brimming with life. We can observe the innocent delight of a dolphin contemplating his meal.
Death and ugliness do not have to be synonymous, but ugliness and ugliness do.
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Actually, that picture was from the Armenian genocide.
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Re: Beauty [Re: Veritas]
#5660717 - 05/22/06 03:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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If all you were looking for is aethetics, then why not post this in MA&L? What relevance do aethetically pleasing pics have to spirituality?
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The sun is pretty.
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Veritas

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Ahhh...so only aesthetically repugnant, poorly composed photos chosen for their shock value are spiritual? 
I am a beauty-loving Hedonist...my philosophy states that pleasure is the greatest good, not pain and suffering.
I am spiritually inspired by artistic photos of nature's glory. I did not post in Mysticism because beauty has nothing to do with UFO's, Unicorns, past lives or telekinesis.
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Re: Beauty [Re: Veritas]
#5660749 - 05/22/06 03:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Veritas said: Ahhh...so only aesthetically repugnant, poorly composed photos chosen for their shock value are spiritual? 
Where did I imply that? I simply said that the reverse is not true either.
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I am a beauty-loving Hedonist...I am spiritually inspired by artistic photos of nature's glory. I did not post in Mysticism because beauty has nothing to do with UFO's, Unicorns, past lives or telekinesis.
So then you are spiritually inspired by focusing only on artistic beauty and keeping the darker aspects of life out of view? I've personally found that the greatest spiritual growth often comes from pain and struggle.
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