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ngnyus
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Sprouting plants with electricity
#5657200 - 05/21/06 05:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I recently read the book" The Secret Life Of Plants" (highly recommended) in which there was an article on the effects of electricity on plants. Inspired by this I hooked up an "electro-sage" (used for physical therapy) by stripping the electrode wires and sticking the exposed ends into the soil seeded with very viable poppy seeds. At the same time I also planted in an identical container the same amount (approx.) of seeds as a control. I have watered them at the same time with the same amount and have been as careful as could be to treat both identically. At 4 days I already have 13 small but visible sprouts in the electrified soil but no visible sprouts in the control group. Anyone else tried this? P.S. I tried to take pictures, but do to the small size of the sprouts was unable to produce. Will follow up with pictures a.s.a.p
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
#5657458 - 05/21/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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sprouts are hard to photograph, but it's possible with the right light using your camera's macro mode.
I'm rather interested in the eventual results of this. I may have to conduct my own test.
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: Konnrade]
#5657502 - 05/21/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Konnrade said: I'm rather interested in the eventual results of this. I may have to conduct my own test.
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: waixingren]
#5657649 - 05/21/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I didn't even notice the pun
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: Konnrade]
#5657797 - 05/21/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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i love puns!
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: Meat_hod]
#5658037 - 05/21/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanx for the info konnrade well here's my baby's
 You can see quite a few of the larger sprouts, and here's the control group
 Trust me not a damn sprout, both planted within five minutes of each other and grown under identical conditions, kinda cool huh!?!?!?!?!?!
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
#5658081 - 05/21/06 09:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are those peat moss pots, like the kind that can be put directly into the soil for transplanting?
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: Konnrade]
#5658090 - 05/21/06 09:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, from the same package.
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
#5658112 - 05/21/06 09:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is very interesting.Can you elaborate more on what yu used for the electricity?I am a bit confused on what you were talking about.
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It is called ElectroSage8, a cheap version of the tool used in physical therapy. It uses a 9 volt battery and delivers pulses of electricity. It is used as a massage tool to stimulate muscle contractions. I bought it 2 years ago when I had a work injury. I think it cost like 40 dollars.
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
#5659615 - 05/22/06 10:18 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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thats very interesting. i also read that book about a week or so ago, and honestly, its one of the most amazing and inspiring books i ever read. after every chapter there was like a thousand experiments i wanted to try. i searched all over the internet for information on electroculture and found nothing, except an interesting chapter in an online book called hemp husbandry http://www.rexresearch.com/hhusb/hhcont~1.htm which also has hella good information in it, and some interesting information about electro culture. Does this machine output DC or AC? This is pretty important as i found that AC is more lethal and dangerous, but can be beneficial in smaller doses. Ive got a solar electric fence generator thing and im getting ready to run some wires under a 100sq ft garden bed to do some experimenting there. keep up the good work
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: whythewho]
#5659979 - 05/22/06 12:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanx for the link whythewho, it puts out d.c., which I suspect does not do damage to the plant as reported in some of the studies in the secret life of plants. Please keep me posted on the results of your experiments, thanx again.
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
#5661350 - 05/22/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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DAY 5 Well I now have a few seeds beginning to sprout in the control group;
 And then the electrified group;
 In the words of my mentor Dr. Frankenstein, "It's alive!!!!" P.S. well that shows an approximate 20% increase in germination rate. Please give me your opinion on whether I should continue this study until maturity of these plants, or else I have been thinking of trying this same experiment with a much more dormant seed, i.e. psychotria viridis, or something of the sort.
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Edited by ngnyus (05/22/06 07:04 PM)
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
#5663149 - 05/23/06 06:44 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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So did you "shock" the seeds just once when first planted, or has the electric current been pulsing into the pot for days? This is an interesting experiment, thanks for sharing.
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ToolTroll]
#5663598 - 05/23/06 10:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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so now you sick bastereds are electrocuting your plants to force them to produce output and production to your desired needs!!! You guys are no better than BUSH and the USA GOVERNMENT...sick sick people man your all burning in hell for this mark my words.
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
#5663783 - 05/23/06 11:13 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have always wondered about this. I never thought of using that particular device though. I just kind of wondered what would happen if you got a 9 volt and hooked it up to some copper wire that was coiled through the soil. You aren't the first person to tell me about that secret life of plants book either. I have been reading the Marieb/Webster: Introduction to Anatomy and Physiology almost exclusively for months and months and months now so i really needed something to look fowrward to reading in a few weeks, thanks. Keep us posted on this for sure!
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: mr_minds_eye]
#5665984 - 05/23/06 06:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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O.k. In response to tolltroll, the electricity is pulsing continually through the soil, in response to makaveli 8x8 all brainsignals are electricity, plants produce electricity, there is electricity in the air we breath, all I am doing is uping it just a little, and obviously the plants like it, Its a hell of a lot better than the shit they feed the vegetables we eat everyday with, which kills the essential bacteria in the soil, not to mention pollute our environment. And in response to mr_minds_eye,...I don't know, try it and tell me. Well heres day 6

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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
#5666114 - 05/23/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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so how do you know they like it?
you can shock a slave to get more production...but does that mean he likes it?
the plants might be growing faster..but that doesnt' mean they are happy . plants do have feelings to, weither you let yourself beleive that or not is up to you.
i heard a kid the other day say fish don't have feelings(his father told him that), as a reason for throwing the fish on the ground stepping on its head to keep it still while ripping the hook from its mouth tearing its jaw apart. if it didn't feel pain why does it try to get away?
the thing with plants is that they cann't show us in any small way that they are feeling pain...but we assume because we cann't see it that they don't feel it?
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: makaveli8x8]
#5666208 - 05/23/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I agree with you that plants have feelings. I talk to my plants, play them music, love them and care for them. The particular device I am using simply creates an enhanced electic field. Similar to the effects of an ionizer in humans. Believe me, it does not "shock" the plants, Before I even attempted this experiment I set it all up in both soil and water (hydroponics), water would have been advantageous in that it would have also been possible to see the root growth at the same time, but you could feel the electrical pulse, in soil there is no pulse felt, even though at full strength it is still not enough to "shock" anyone, it's a painless, even enjoyable, muscle stimulator, Thanx for your input. P.S. to be honest, another reason I didn't use hydroponics is I detest the use of manmade chemicals in my plants, and I would have used an avocado seed, since it grows in water for some time with no added chemicals, so its not really hydroponics, and I don't like avocado's.
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
#5667334 - 05/24/06 12:51 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Keep this going until they mature. Very interesting results so far!! I'm pretty sure I'd give this a try if you see positive results.
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: TODAY]
#5667364 - 05/24/06 01:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is in no way harmful to the plants, the electrical current just somehow stimulates their root growth, and thus overall growth, I've seen this done with cannabis in a couple experiments, but OG went down and I lost track of them.
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ClammyJoe]
#5667521 - 05/24/06 02:36 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Did they ever guess as to why the electricity stimulates root growth?
Quite an interesting phenomina -has it been confirmed scientifically? (like in a research paper)
If plants have feelings what do you eat instead? Arent you gonna be slicing these things with razor blades anyways?
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: Feelers]
#5667764 - 05/24/06 07:02 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I eat plants and animals, I'd eat humans to, but they taste horrible. lol
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
#5667878 - 05/24/06 08:39 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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ngnyus said: I eat plants and animals, I'd eat humans to, but they taste horrible. lol
Human-the other white meat. Tastes great and controls the population too!! Nah, I'm just down with the fish.
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: pod3]
#5668007 - 05/24/06 09:37 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, theyve done plenty of 'official' research on the subject. If you are interested i really suggest you invest in buying 'The secret life of plants' by Tompkins and Bird. The reason that this stimulates the growth is said to be because the electricity reduces the surface tension of the water, or some kind of tension (my memory... you know the story) and thus, the water inside the plant moves with greater ease and speed. This allows the plants to transport more minerals and nutrients in a given amount of time, increasing growht and strength. And the whole 'electrically shocking your plants is evil' idea... please. Even if plants had the same sensory perception of electricity that animals do, and if the plant was somehow being harmed by the electricity, it would not result in improved growht, as it does. Doing things like applying sound, electricity and magnetism to plants to increase their growth is no more sinful than using a curling iron on your hair.
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: pod3]
#5670005 - 05/24/06 07:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Day 7;
 Hey pod3, can you PM me or post on the results of your "bucket experiments, thanx.
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: pod3]
#5921845 - 08/01/06 01:00 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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what happened to this??? i am very interested in what happened!! please post updates??probably not oging to happend but okay -SenselessRebel
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
#5922102 - 08/01/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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maybe i will throw a hair dryer into my reservoir. lol
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: durban_poison]
#5922999 - 08/01/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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SenselessRebel: I've been wondering what happened as well -- PM'd the OP but no response thus far.
I'm trying to devise some similar experiments and looking at various EMF meters, etc. I can purchase to measure fields w/. My hope is to test out a variety of plants (esp. cacti) and then experiment w/ EMF on mycelium and fruiting bodies of various Ps. species. There have been a few journal articles in the past on the subject, but I'm still trying to gain access to the pertinent archives.
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: cloudtop]
#5925221 - 08/02/06 12:13 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think that's an excellent idea. I wonder if electricity would, in repeated trials, promote faster growth in mycelia, mushrooms, seed plants. I may do a little reading at some point and try something similar.
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: TODAY]
#5944218 - 08/08/06 01:38 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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also after finding out wether its benifitial, thenyou have to find out what Voltage is most benifitial and wether DC or AC is better. many different var's to test! fun wish i had time because i would definitely donate it but i dont...
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