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Sprouting plants with electricity
    #5657200 - 05/21/06 05:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I recently read the book" The Secret Life Of Plants" (highly recommended) in which there was an article on the effects of electricity on plants. Inspired by this I hooked up an "electro-sage" (used for physical therapy) by stripping the electrode wires and sticking the exposed ends into the soil seeded with very viable poppy seeds. At the same time I also planted in an identical container the same amount (approx.) of seeds as a control. I have watered them at the same time with the same amount and have been as careful as could be to treat both identically. At 4 days I already have 13 small but visible sprouts in the electrified soil but no visible sprouts in the control group. Anyone else tried this?
P.S. I tried to take pictures, but do to the small size of the sprouts was unable to produce. Will follow up with pictures a.s.a.p


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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
    #5657458 - 05/21/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

sprouts are hard to photograph, but it's possible with the right light using your camera's macro mode.

I'm rather interested in the eventual results of this. I may have to conduct my own test.


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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: Konnrade]
    #5657502 - 05/21/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm rather interested in the eventual results of this. I may have to conduct my own test.




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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: waixingren]
    #5657649 - 05/21/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:lol:

I didn't even notice the pun :tongue:


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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: Konnrade]
    #5657797 - 05/21/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i love puns!


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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: Meat_hod]
    #5658037 - 05/21/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Thanx for the info konnrade well here's my baby's

You can see quite a few of the larger sprouts, and here's the control group

Trust me not a damn sprout, both planted within five minutes of each other and grown under identical conditions, kinda cool huh!?!?!?!?!?!


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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
    #5658081 - 05/21/06 09:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Are those peat moss pots, like the kind that can be put directly into the soil for transplanting?


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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: Konnrade]
    #5658090 - 05/21/06 09:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, from the same package.


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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
    #5658112 - 05/21/06 09:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This is very interesting.Can you elaborate more on what yu used for the electricity?I am a bit confused on what you were talking about.


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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5658138 - 05/21/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It is called ElectroSage8, a cheap version of the tool used in physical therapy. It uses a 9 volt battery and delivers pulses of electricity. It is used as a massage tool to stimulate muscle contractions. I bought it 2 years ago when I had a work injury. I think it cost like 40 dollars.


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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
    #5659615 - 05/22/06 10:18 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

thats very interesting. i also read that book about a week or so ago, and honestly, its one of the most amazing and inspiring books i ever read. after every chapter there was like a thousand experiments i wanted to try. i searched all over the internet for information on electroculture and found nothing, except an interesting chapter in an online book called hemp husbandry http://www.rexresearch.com/hhusb/hhcont~1.htm which also has hella good information in it, and some interesting information about electro culture. Does this machine output DC or AC? This is pretty important as i found that AC is more lethal and dangerous, but can be beneficial in smaller doses. Ive got a solar electric fence generator thing and im getting ready to run some wires under a 100sq ft garden bed to do some experimenting there. keep up the good work


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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: whythewho]
    #5659979 - 05/22/06 12:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Thanx for the link whythewho, it puts out d.c., which I suspect does not do damage to the plant as reported in some of the studies in the secret life of plants. Please keep me posted on the results of your experiments, thanx again.


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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
    #5661350 - 05/22/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

DAY 5
Well I now have a few seeds beginning to sprout in the control group;

And then the electrified group;

In the words of my mentor Dr. Frankenstein, "It's alive!!!!"
P.S. well that shows an approximate 20% increase in germination rate. Please give me your opinion on whether I should continue this study until maturity of these plants, or else I have been thinking of trying this same experiment with a much more dormant seed, i.e. psychotria viridis, or something of the sort.


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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
    #5663149 - 05/23/06 06:44 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

So did you "shock" the seeds just once when first planted, or has the electric current been pulsing into the pot for days? This is an interesting experiment, thanks for sharing. :smile:


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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ToolTroll]
    #5663598 - 05/23/06 10:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

so now you sick bastereds are electrocuting your plants to force them to produce output and production to your desired needs!!!  You guys are no better than BUSH and the USA GOVERNMENT...sick sick people man your all burning in hell for this mark my words.

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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
    #5663783 - 05/23/06 11:13 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have always wondered about this. I never thought of using that particular device though. I just kind of wondered what would happen if you got a 9 volt and hooked it up to some copper wire that was coiled through the soil. You aren't the first person to tell me about that secret life of plants book either. I have been reading the Marieb/Webster: Introduction to Anatomy and Physiology almost exclusively for months and months and months now so i really needed something to look fowrward to reading in a few weeks, thanks. Keep us posted on this for sure!


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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #5665984 - 05/23/06 06:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

O.k. In response to tolltroll, the electricity is pulsing continually through the soil, in response to makaveli 8x8 all brainsignals are electricity, plants produce electricity, there is electricity in the air we breath, all I am doing is uping it just a little, and obviously the plants like it, Its a hell of a lot better than the shit they feed the vegetables we eat everyday with, which kills the essential bacteria in the soil, not to mention pollute our environment. And in response to mr_minds_eye,...I don't know, try it and tell me.
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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
    #5666114 - 05/23/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

so how do you know they like it?

you can shock a slave to get more production...but does that mean he likes it?

the plants might be growing faster..but that doesnt' mean they are happy . plants do have feelings to, weither you let yourself beleive that or not is up to you.

i heard a kid the other day say fish don't have feelings(his father told him that), as a reason for throwing the fish on the ground stepping on its head to keep it still while ripping the hook from its mouth tearing its jaw apart. if it didn't feel pain why does it try to get away?

the thing with plants is that they cann't show us in any small way that they are feeling pain...but we assume because we cann't see it that they don't feel it?


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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5666208 - 05/23/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I agree with you that plants have feelings. I talk to my plants, play them music, love them and care for them. The particular device I am using simply creates an enhanced electic field. Similar to the effects of an ionizer in humans. Believe me, it does not "shock" the plants, Before I even attempted this experiment I set it all up in both soil and water (hydroponics), water would have been advantageous in that it would have also been possible to see the root growth at the same time, but you could feel the electrical pulse, in soil there is no pulse felt, even though at full strength it is still not enough to "shock" anyone, it's a painless, even enjoyable, muscle stimulator, Thanx for your input.
P.S. to be honest, another reason I didn't use hydroponics is I detest the use of manmade chemicals in my plants, and I would have used an avocado seed, since it grows in water for some time with no added chemicals, so its not really hydroponics, and I don't like avocado's.


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Re: Sprouting plants with electricity [Re: ngnyus]
    #5667334 - 05/24/06 12:51 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Keep this going until they mature. Very interesting results so far!! I'm pretty sure I'd give this a try if you see positive results.


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