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OfflineCryptopsy
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Datura: Can you have a good trip?
    #5655407 - 05/21/06 04:21 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'm considering trying datura. Right now i would say its balanced at 50-50 as to whether i will, pending further investigation.

I have read various trip reports, (quasi)scientific articles etc but would like to gather further information, as alot of what I've read is not directly pertinent to my question. Most reports appear negative but the drug holds some appeal.

I was mildly disappointed to find that acid (and shrooms) did not produce what i would consider proper hallucinations ie actually seeing 'real' shit. Datura, it seems, can do this but at the risk of a probable bad trip and even death. So, is it possible to get the good without the bad?

I'm looking for trip reports, possible combinations (weed to mellow it?? for example) or if someone has any scientfic info. And don't give me some 'just don't even consider it' shit. I want to make my own informed decisions.


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Re: Datura: Can you have a good trip? [Re: Cryptopsy]
    #5655421 - 05/21/06 04:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Amswer to your question: probably not.


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Re: Datura: Can you have a good trip? [Re: Anno]
    #5655439 - 05/21/06 05:09 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

you have to realize that the fact that they look real makes it worse.

If you really want to try for 'real' hallucinations, even thought i and most no one here really advocate medicine use, try banadryl or dipenhydramine. These, although not good for you, are alot safer than datura.

datura lasts a long time and you can act crazy and do shit without noticing it. benadryl is just weird, but worth trying imo, i had fun, bad cotton mouth though.


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Re: Datura: Can you have a good trip? [Re: Cryptopsy]
    #5655464 - 05/21/06 05:53 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Heres a report: One guy cut his tongue out and his penis off with pruning shears while under the influence of datura. Neither were reattached successfully.


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Re: Datura: Can you have a good trip? [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5655465 - 05/21/06 05:54 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

wow that sucks while i was under its infulence i drank a liter of rum and slept walked and stuff no harm was done i was with `8 other poeple or so and only one of them noticed lol i had a tree datura flower as tea


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Re: Datura: Can you have a good trip? [Re: Cryptopsy]
    #5655685 - 05/21/06 09:30 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

As soon as I saw this thread I felt it my responsibility to respond immediately. DATURA IS AN EXTREME HAZARD, RATHER THAN A DRUG!!!!

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post4641369


I urge you to read my trip report, and I really hope you change your mind.

Edit: just noticed i even have a quite from my trip report in my sig


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The next morning my parents said we were going to the hospital. I thought two of my friends were sitting in the front seat and i thanked them for getting me away from my crazy parents.
Even in the emergency room i would see paint flying off the walls spiraling all through the room, and would hallucinate holding a pipe or a cig in my hand and i would take a nice long drag, blow out the smoke, look at my hands, and nothing would be there.
---Myself, poisoned by datura sold as mushroom chocolates


Edited by Jurd420 (05/21/06 09:31 AM)


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Re: Datura: Can you have a good trip? [Re: Cryptopsy]
    #5655799 - 05/21/06 10:27 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If you do, MAKE SURE you have trip sitters.

Also you should probably be in a secluded area as well. If you start freaking out and yelling it would probably draw unwanted attention.


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Re: Datura: Can you have a good trip? [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #5656275 - 05/21/06 01:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I suppose its possible, some people around here seem to use Datura for some reason (I dont understand that reason). Im my experience Datura is more a hazard and not a drug. Yes you will see imaginary people, smoke imaginary cigarettes that disolve into nothing when you take that last puff etc... . Its not pleasurable at all though and most of the things I hallucinated had to be told to me a few days later by the people who were there. I had a friend who took just a little more then me who wound up in the hospital and almost died. Ill never touch it again.


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Re: Datura: Can you have a good trip? [Re: Gratos]
    #5656373 - 05/21/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Some people seem to enjoy datura. I don't know any though. Friend of mine tried it, most of his memory's gone from the experience except he woke up in a jail cell and his friend's ribs were all smashed up and he'd been in hospital. Nothing serious happened, they let him go (and denied ever having held him when he asked why he was in there the next day) and his friend's fine, except for pain he still gets in the ribs. Personally I wouldn't risk it. Maybe salvia? Never tried that myself though. I DON'T advise dosing mushrooms just to see shit that isn't there or just to get fucked up, but on a larger dose I was seeing ants crawling over a tree carrying leaves and other dead insects into hundred of little tiny holes in the tree, which according to my friend who was trip sitting me weren't there at all. So I'd deffinitely say it's possible, just not a good reason to dose higher... At all...


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Re: Datura: Can you have a good trip? [Re: StickyWater]
    #5656620 - 05/21/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

if u try it make sure u have something for the cottonmouth, worst cottonmouth u will ever get. datura is a deleriant some people like it and some dont if u try it try one flower brewed in tea first then go from there. if u wanna see some weird shit try(dont try) dramamine some weird effects but not pleasurable at all


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Man who put cock in Peanut Butter jar is Fucking Nuts.
Man with tool in woman mouth May not necessarily be dentist.
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He who fish in other's hole often catch crabs.
Man who go to sleep with itchy butt, wake with smelly fingers...
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Re: Datura: Can you have a good trip? [Re: Cryptopsy]
    #5656650 - 05/21/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

dude, dont even bother. if u really wanna go crazy, just do dramamine.


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Re: Datura: Can you have a good trip? [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5657432 - 05/21/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I personally follow the philosophy never to trip soley for visuals. Plus on datura nothing seems out of the ordinary until looking back on what just happened. You can access some amazing, farout visuals with psychedelics.... just turn off the lights and discover 80 nature people beckoning you over.


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Re: Datura: Can you have a good trip? [Re: Crowsnose]
    #5657618 - 05/21/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

haha random question, but is datura the stuff that the guy does in the new batman movie? I thought it was, since it caused a pretty bad trip when the guy took it, and it was a flower made into a tea.


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Re: Datura: Can you have a good trip? [Re: Crowsnose]
    #5657697 - 05/21/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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Heres a report: One guy cut his tongue out and his penis off with pruning shears while under the influence of datura. Neither were reattached successfully.




This seems like pretty definitive evidence.

Anyway, fuck it. From all I've read thus far it seems that 95% of trips are just shit and of the other 5% seem kinda dubious anyway. Considering that I have zero self control i'd probably smoke like 50 seeds and go all postal. Whats the deal with Dramamine? Isn't it like motion sickness pills?


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Re: Datura: Can you have a good trip? [Re: Cryptopsy]
    #5658508 - 05/21/06 10:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Diphenhydramine, the active ingredient in dramamine is an anti-cholergenic.take enough and you will see things that aren't there (personally, I hallucinated a ghost dog blocking my path, orbs of light floating out of the ground, and a fat man sleeping in a pickup truck). It's not exactly pleasant, and I can't say I necessarily recommend it. But if you're looking for something along the lines of datura without the multiple day fugue, dramamine is a better bet.

Don't take too much though. I knew a guy who took 36 and ended up trying to walk home along a highway, a cop picked him up outside of a tavern, talking to a bush convinced that it was his younger brother. Another guy I know took 19 and kept trying to go into random peoples houses, convinced that he knew the people who lived there.


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