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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: Veritas]
    #5656408 - 05/21/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Veritas said:
We perform actions based upon perceived rewards. Actions which are never rewarded cease to be performed.

As you stated that your actions were based on principle, I said that your reward was the sense of living according to your principles.




ultimately, you are wrong on this one. Big time.

"In matters of Style, swim with the current. In matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson.

We all must flex if we are to remain whole when pressure is applied to us.

But there must also be a very solid foundation for us to stand on. Though the beauty of the flow is necessary, without the strength of the rock we would crumble and fall.

And know this: No good deed goes unrewarded, and no bad deed goes unpunished.

Its all on tape, honey. For God and Everyone else to see. Choose your actions wisely, and follow your moral compass well. Otherwise, you will be judged by God, his Son, and the whole of humanity. God and his Son are pretty forgiving guys, but the whole of humanity can be quite a harsh judge that can unflinchingly hand out some very harsh sentences. Be warned, woman.


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5656409 - 05/21/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I say it is none of my business. :grin:


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5656414 - 05/21/06 01:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

True. I am able to take care of myself. Please toss the money this way. :thumbup:


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: Veritas]
    #5656417 - 05/21/06 01:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I can respect that. Essentially, then, it is like putting a coin into a chance machine. Like, "here's an oppurtunity for you", and then reality unfolds some more. :grin:

I love that cosmic, humorous sense of things... :wink:

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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5656420 - 05/21/06 01:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You are entitled to your opinions.

However, if you wish to make a case that humans initiate and repeatedly perform actions without any type of reward, you would do well to provide some support for your claims.

I do not believe in a god or higher being who punishes humans for their indiscretions, so your warnings fall on deaf ears. It seems weak and petty to choose one's actions based upon supernatural threats of punishment.

As to the rest of humanity, they can judge all they want. The waste of life energy will be borne solely by the judgmental.


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: Veritas]
    #5656432 - 05/21/06 01:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Veritas said:
You are entitled to your opinions.

However, if you wish to make a case that humans perform actions without any type of reward, you would do well to provide some support for your claims.





Are you fucking kidding me? If I were an egotistical man, I would go off on all the things I have done for others without asking for or expecting a single fucking thing in return.

Instead I will point to the behavior of others like me as proof. Jesus died for your sins. Show a little respect. Thomas Jefferson built the foundation of this country with his own two hands, put his heart and soul into it, and died thinking himself a failure for not doing more. Mother Teresa spent her entire life ministering to the sick in absolute poverty and filth. People all around you are selfless without expectation. Truly, these are God's people. For God is selfless without expectation.

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I do not believe in a god or higher being who punishes humans for their indiscretions, so your warnings fall on deaf ears. It seems weak and petty to choose one's actions based upon supernatural threats of punishment.




you're a fool then. I'd suggest you catch up on your reading, honey. Science is very far from everything.


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5656434 - 05/21/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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fireworks_god said:
I can respect that. Essentially, then, it is like putting a coin into a chance machine. Like, "here's an oppurtunity for you", and then reality unfolds some more. :grin:

I love that cosmic, humorous sense of things... :wink:





As it says on the lottery tickets: should be played for entertainment purposes only.  :grin:


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5656447 - 05/21/06 01:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Many perform so-called selfless acts because they receive intrinsic rewards.

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Intrinsically enjoyable activities are things like eating, resting, laughing, playing games, winning, creating, seeing and hearing beautiful things and people, being held lovingly, having sex, and so on.

To do these things we don't need to be paid, applauded, cheered, thanked, respected, or anything--commonly we do them for the good feelings we automatically and naturally get from the activity.

Intrinsic rewards also involve pleasurable internal feelings or thoughts, like feeling proud or having a sense of mastery following studying hard and succeeding in a class.




Others desire non-direct, extrinsic rewards for their selflessness, such as the love and approval of others. Whatever the exchange may be, there is always a reward involved.

I am familiar with the texts and tenets of the major world religions. I'm not impressed. Science is one method of exploring our reality, and (when used with flexibility and absence of dogma) is far more useful than faith.


Edited by Veritas (05/21/06 01:58 PM)


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: Veritas]
    #5656457 - 05/21/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hardheaded coldly rational science types. :mad: You're going to hell. :thumbdown:


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: Icelander]
    #5656465 - 05/21/06 01:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

At least I'll have interesting company.  :tongue:


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5656469 - 05/21/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Are you fucking kidding me?  If I were an egotistical man, I would go off and point to the behavior of others like me as proof. 




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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: Veritas]
    #5656477 - 05/21/06 02:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Veritas said:
At least I'll have interesting company.  :tongue:





that's really funny.  I happen to know for a fact that God has several cameras on you right now.  The Illuminati might have a few as well. 

if I were you, I'd check your house for bugs :smirk:


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5656482 - 05/21/06 02:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:lol: God needs cameras, huh? :smirk:

I certainly am glad that people like you died for my sins, how thoughtful of you, I mean, them. :tongue:

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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5656483 - 05/21/06 02:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:lol:

Actually, I believe that the Easter Bunny is responsible for the wiretap on my phone.  God set up the nanny-cam, and Buddha planted the microscopic recording devices in my bedroom.


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: Veritas]
    #5656487 - 05/21/06 02:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

At least I'll have interesting company. 



You mean Pamela Anderson? :thumbup:


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Edited by Icelander (05/21/06 02:08 PM)


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: Icelander]
    #5656494 - 05/21/06 02:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

No, she'll be in Heaven serving angel food cake to the televangelists.  :lol:


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: Icelander]
    #5656496 - 05/21/06 02:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Icelander said:
You mean Pamela Anderson? :thumbup:




The reincarnation of Mother Theresa!

The more selfless, good deeds you perform, the bigger your breasts are next time around. :wink:

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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5656502 - 05/21/06 02:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Also known as the Third Law of Mammary Karma.  :wink:

I must have been a saint in my last life... :boobs:


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: Veritas]
    #5656506 - 05/21/06 02:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I am familiar with the texts and tenets of the major world religions. I'm not impressed. Science is one method of exploring our reality, and (when used with flexibility and absence of dogma) is far more useful than faith.





Science is one method of exploring and conquering THIS reality.  Which is why I love science.  Believe me, I benefit from science everyday, I'm not a fuckin Luddite. 

But faith, my friend, is the meaning of life.  You must believe, even when the chips are down.  If you believe in nothing, nothing will believe in you.  Read any good Niezche lately? :lol:

DON'T PANIC!


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: Veritas]
    #5656507 - 05/21/06 02:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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:lol:

Actually, I believe that the Easter Bunny is responsible for the wiretap on my phone.  God set up the nanny-cam, and Buddha planted the microscopic recording devices in my bedroom.




Yeah, but Jesus leaves you alone because he just doesn't give a fuck!  :rofl:


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