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Offlineporcupine
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do you give to the poor and if so how much?
    #5655333 - 05/21/06 02:55 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

today a poor man asked me for money. i gave him 2 dollars. when i drove away i felt guilty for not giving him more. its so rare i get asked for money and i could certainly spare more than $2. but then i thought, what if he's a drug user? i mean its not right if everyone he asks gives him a lot of money and then he buys drugs with it. so im wondering what do you guys do in such a situation? how much do you give?


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InvisiblelIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl
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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: porcupine]
    #5655339 - 05/21/06 03:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I give money once in a while.

Last time I gave money I gave twenty bucks to a really old tired looking bum who was passed out on the street.

Usually I give 2 to 5 dollars. I don't care if they use it for drugs (almost all of them do). Once I give the money I leave it up to them to decide.


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5655352 - 05/21/06 03:16 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

well just to clarify, its not that i would be pissed off at him if i found out he used it for drugs, its just that i wouldnt feel guilty for giving less if i knew he was just using it to buy drugs.


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InvisiblelIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl
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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: porcupine]
    #5655358 - 05/21/06 03:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This is a complicated question... maybe someone wiser could give you a good answer, I can't think of anything.

:shrug:


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? *DELETED* [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5655412 - 05/21/06 04:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Offlinefireworks_godS
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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: soulcircus]
    #5655501 - 05/21/06 06:35 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I give $2 out of every bi-weekly paycheck to the United Way. :smirk:

Usually, it is recommended that you tithe 10%, and apparently I tithe .2%. :lol:

I guess I'm going to hell. :frown:

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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: porcupine]
    #5655528 - 05/21/06 07:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I donate a bit of money to charity when I have some spare cash. I tend not to give out handouts on the street, instead I offer to buy homeless people a meal. It's always kind of ironic when they refuse the free meal. Other people have been very grateful, and would talk of matters of spirituality and religion and what not. Very interesting events, I say


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: Basilides]
    #5655543 - 05/21/06 07:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Exactly. If you are genuinely poor, a free meal and some clothes would be what you would need the most in the immediate moment, and that is what should be offered. If they need money for transportation, give them a bus pass. I remember someone saying once that they'll never give out money, but will more than gladly hook 'em up with stuff like what I mentioned.

If only people walked the streets handing poor people free alcohol and crack...

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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5655613 - 05/21/06 08:31 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It's not the 2% that will put you in Hell. It's giving it to the United Way. :wink:


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: porcupine]
    #5655687 - 05/21/06 09:31 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've given to both the rich and the poor.


zillions and zillions of dollars.  More money than you ever knew existed :wink:


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5655742 - 05/21/06 10:01 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I do NOT give any money to strangers on the street or some big organized "charity"

If a poor person asks me for money I always ask if they would mow my grass or rake my yard for $10.
No one has taken me up on my $10 offer.....they were just looking for a hand out.......I don't do hand outs.

:sorry:

Organized charities........lining the pocket of some corporation in the hopes that they might do something worth while :rolleyes:






"God helps those who help themselves"



Since I'm the "God" of my reality.
I only help those who are willing to help themselves....
Mainly my friends and family.


Sounds harsh.
But I'm an "Old Testament" kinda guy sometimes.
"Spare the rod spoil the child"  :thumbup:


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: niteowl]
    #5655786 - 05/21/06 10:21 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I give a dollar or two to people on the street who ask. They don't need to give me a reason for why they need it. I figure if they are asking for money to begin with, they obviously need the money more than i do to even go to such lengths.

However i don't give to charities. I don't trust them. I can't possibly know where that money even goes.


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: Icelander]
    #5655824 - 05/21/06 10:40 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
It's not the 2% that will put you in Hell. It's giving it to the United Way. :wink:




I only started doing so, because there was some promotion within the company, and the store was striving to get 100% participation. :grin:

I'm actually going to find some very obsure, irrelevant charity and start donating to that straight from my paycheck. Something concerning the plight of the whaling industry, or something... :lol:

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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5655905 - 05/21/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

very obsure, irrelevant charity

Save Icelander foundation. :thumbup:


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: Basilides]
    #5655988 - 05/21/06 11:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Basilides said:
I donate a bit of money to charity when I have some spare cash. I tend not to give out handouts on the street, instead I offer to buy homeless people a meal. It's always kind of ironic when they refuse the free meal. Other people have been very grateful, and would talk of matters of spirituality and religion and what not. Very interesting events, I say




Do you ask them if they're hungry first?


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: Lakefingers]
    #5655995 - 05/21/06 11:48 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Lakefingers said:
Do you ask them if they're hungry first?




Do poor people have no concept of a doggie bag? :smirk:

If they don't feel like eating at the moment, a gift card can always be given instead. What is your point?

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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5656009 - 05/21/06 11:54 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think the point is, they're not necessarily always asking for money to buy food. The money may be used for something else that's needed.


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: moog]
    #5656076 - 05/21/06 12:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

moog said:
I think the point is, they're not necessarily always asking for money to buy food. The money may be used for something else that's needed.




Alcohol or crack? :grin:

Like I said, food, clothing, immediate transportation... basic, essential needs that need to be covered. If one isn't taking handouts for that, then what? I don't really see what else handouts are going to be able to support. Certainly not rent, doctor bills, etc.

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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: porcupine]
    #5656092 - 05/21/06 12:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I give my spare change to homeless people when they ask, but that's about it. As far as I'm concerned, I am poor.


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Re: do you give to the poor and if so how much? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5656095 - 05/21/06 12:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If alcahol and crack give them pleasure than they may be just as important as food is to us.


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