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watch out for this trader!
    #5654286 - 05/20/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

llamabox

thats his name above, i took his offer in the ethno ring on the form here. After words he offered to up the anty and get a trade between us to make it all more worthwild, he wanted a few things i had to offer. I told him i have never traded before i was new ect.

so i sent him my stuff, i goofed (seeds got smashed) and had to resend my seeds (i told him i was new), but i did resend most of them and it all happened under 3 weeks TOPS prob closer to 1 & half or 2 weeks.

so then it came time for him to send mine...weeks go by and i get a reply saying he sent it out my free offereings, but wasn't able to get the trade stuff out yet....but i havn't received anything in the mail so he was lieing.

then in his next email he says he was behind because of his "free" ethnoring website. and he said he would get my stuff out soon. I offered him some more seeds(feeling maybe my offereings to him weren't enough and thats why the delay), but said i wouldn't send them until i received mine. he says yea sure

so all in all about a month later now, i give him a week deadline to send my stuff, i say i waited long enough now, i was patient, tried to sweeten the pot for you incase that was the prob ect.

he read my email but didn't reply, so now im letting all those here know they shouldn't deal with this man. he seemed nice and all but don't all the scammers?

he said he was running behind because of his "free" ethnoring well im curious if anyway has been getting there stuff from there either? and just because your running that doesn't mean you forget about a trade?? if you cann't hold up the bargon don't offer it!


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5654352 - 05/20/06 07:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

llamabox is a GREAT trader, and has ALWAYS hooked me up with alot of things I have needed and offered plenty extra to me! I disagree with you 1000000000%!!!


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: Taskenti]
    #5654361 - 05/20/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

im sure he has had good experiences in the past, by looking at his rating, but as we all know it don't mean squat to another person...in my experience i was screwed.

p.s. yes he offered me extra's too, but you know when i don't get the stuff from the free ring on the shroomery, and i don't get the stuff in the trade or the extra's...its disapointing.


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5654382 - 05/20/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Why'd you post this in here? Cuz you know in the marketplace it will get deleted, and you will be told to use the rating system. llamabox is a great guy and is doing a great thing for all the ethno enthusiast out there! He's not gonna rip someone off for some seeds or whatever else. This thread should be trashed :thumbdown:


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5654399 - 05/20/06 08:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yah llamabox is a great guy. always good with his trades.


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: waixingren]
    #5654404 - 05/20/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

And ALWAYS hooks it up :thumbup:


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: Taskenti]
    #5654412 - 05/20/06 08:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i didn't deal with him in the market place thats why. the trade im talkin about was for more and different seeds.

I posted in here because he has a seed ring sticked, and he told me he was behind on that...and thats why it was taking him so long sopposedly. And as i stated early i was curious if anyone has recieved shipments from there.

this has to do with entho rings, and trades it belongs here...im not talking about a ipod that got lost or a bike for sale.

and he did ripe me off for seeds when he chose not to reply to my pms.


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llamabox is a GREAT trader!!!! [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5654421 - 05/20/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

He's a great trader! Simple as that. He would prolly make this up to you if you arent the one lying. There may be something we don't know. But personally, I wouldn't even try to make it up to you if I were him. Thats just me tho.


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Re: llamabox is a GREAT trader!!!! [Re: Taskenti]
    #5654428 - 05/20/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah because im the asshole right? im the one reading but not replying to pms right? im the one who didn't send out my part of the deal right? and im lying because why im new and i didn't hook you up in the past right? and im not the one who's gunno hook you up some more for stickin up for me right??

p.s. and calling me a lier when he's the one who said he sent out my "entho exhange seeds" when he really didn't is well agravating to me.


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Re: llamabox is a GREAT trader!!!! [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5654439 - 05/20/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Man, don't trade shit over the internet, it's a stupid idea PERIOD, especially on a drug website. The entire marketplace forum should be erased.


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llamabox :( [Re: Anonymous]
    #5654457 - 05/20/06 08:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

well the trade was for more ethno seeds. This is about the only place to find alot of them. someone else mentions the marketplace, but as far as i know it has nothing to do with this, ive never stepped foot in the marketplace forum. sorry for the confusion on that part.


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Re: llamabox :( [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5654483 - 05/20/06 08:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've met him personally. He is a great guy.. very generous. Maybe it's just some kind of misunderstanding.. :shrug:


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Re: llamabox :( [Re: eris]
    #5654516 - 05/20/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I've met him personally. He is a great guy.. very generous. Maybe it's just some kind of misunderstanding.. :shrug:




Ditto


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Re: llamabox :( [Re: Taskenti]
    #5654930 - 05/20/06 11:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Dude, I recently got my shit in from the ethno ring, so it is not like he has been bad in the very recent past. In fact, he hooked me up on....nevermind....and I kind of should send him some more money, to repay the balance.
Excellent trader, this must be a simple misunderstanding, because it is most definately not what it seems to be to you.


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Re: llamabox :( [Re: whatever123]
    #5654968 - 05/20/06 11:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

well, i gave him plenty of time. Playing it cool seemed to be taking me nowhere. My last pm to him stated he had till end of this week to get it to me or shipped or i would assume i wouldn't recieve it. so far everyone seems to be taking his side, and you all have good reason to.

But how would you feel if you had to wait over a month since you sent someone your stuff. the fact that he read my pm but didn't reply says it all.

Theres a certain expectation on delivery times and if it pasts that point one expects good communication afterwords (eta's). Plus that ethno exchange thread....it just doesn't seem right that the person who wants my offer gets the stuff before mine gets to me. yeah i coulda held it but i knew it wasn't right for that person to wait that long...


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Re: llamabox :( [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5655155 - 05/21/06 01:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

llamabox = scammer

Im sure he has done good trades in the past, but I bet he feels invincible so he scammed this guy....why would he make the post otherwise?


Edited by Leanin (05/21/06 01:06 AM)


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Re: llamabox :( [Re: Leanin]
    #5655308 - 05/21/06 02:23 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i do a lot of trading, over 5 per week AND i have dealt with llamabox in 2 different sites and he IS an excellent trader even as far as southeast asia, in all my trading with him 10+ he has never went wrong on his word and even went all out to add extras and to find things. i'm sure it's a misunderstanding in the first few communications. this is not the llamabox i know of.

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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5655401 - 05/21/06 04:18 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

why the hell has this thread even continued this long?

This is slander of someone who definitely does not deserve it.


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: Konnrade]
    #5655525 - 05/21/06 07:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This part of the site isn't modded very much since it's usually quiet here.


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5655645 - 05/21/06 08:55 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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This part of the site isn't modded very much since it's usually quiet here.




Which is exactly why the original poster posted it here. He knew that in the marketplace it would be deleted and he would be told to use the rating system.


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: Taskenti]
    #5655688 - 05/21/06 09:31 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I am not trying to scam anyone. I sent out your package. I told you if you did not recieve it I would resend. Why does this make me a liar.

We are in the process of closing down the Canada side of the ring, and the site has been down for almost 2 weeks. I am having intermitten internet connetion, and problems with the server. There are alot of thhings going on right now, and you just got lost in the confusion.
The 20-30 pM's I get everyday are a little confusing, so yours may have gotten overlooked.

I am trying to keep up with the free seed ring, but I am doing all this by myself. If there is a delay in your seeds, i am sorry, but I am doing my best.

Makavali: so did my package arrive safely? eta on mine?

Llamabox: Yours have been sent. They should be there. If not by the first of the week let me know...

Mak: i have yet to receive your package.....

Llamabox: Neither package?

I know I sent the free seed thread pack, the trade may still be here.
I will resend the ******

Doing this free seed ring all by myself, it is hard to keep up...

And double check on the other, *****, *****, ***** if I find it here I will let you know...

Makav: well i think ive waited long enough(even tried to sweeten the pot for you incase that was the problem). if i don't get them by end of next week im going to assume im not going to get them.


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: llamabox]
    #5655698 - 05/21/06 09:36 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've had the same problem with a few people claiming they never received what I sent them...It's starting to get old, and make me rethink trading anymore.


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5655718 - 05/21/06 09:48 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

What a malicious, unfair post--way to go. I know llamabox personally, and am 100% confident that he would not attempt to short anyone on a trade. It's this type of drama that turns good traders away, and we don't need it. You should get a temp ban for intentionally cross-posting this garbage, but I'll let the mods of this forum decide that when they respond to the mod notification.


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: Holydiver]
    #5655725 - 05/21/06 09:51 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Already did that the day I seen the post....Still no mod response. I also know llama personally, and agree 100% holydiver.


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: Taskenti]
    #5655773 - 05/21/06 10:17 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Pointless, malicious slander.


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: whatever123]
    #5655849 - 05/21/06 10:48 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

llamabox is one of the best traders I've dealt with, not to mention his great endeavor with the ethno ring. A++++


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: ngnyus]
    #5655862 - 05/21/06 10:50 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

...do you use eBay, ngnyus?


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: whatever123]
    #5656067 - 05/21/06 12:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I sell P. aquatica and H.Salicifolia seeds there, I have them in abundance.  I just sell enough to support my gardening addiction. :crazy2:  Oh yeah, and once again llamabox rox!, if theres any way I can help llamabox P.M. me and I will be more than happy.


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: ngnyus]
    #5656096 - 05/21/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Figured, because I never see the A++++++++++++++++++++++++ shit from anyone besides eBay users :wink:


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5656136 - 05/21/06 12:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I don't know if llamabox is a good trader or a bad one, BUT I do know that he's exceptionally poor at giving trade ratings. I sent the guy a couple types of seeds for his ethno ring, a few ounces worth, and he never even so much as thanked me or gave me a good trade rating. Technically, I guess it's not "wrong" of him, but I believe it's in poor form.


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #5656144 - 05/21/06 12:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

True, but I expected no trade rating for my donations because it is not a shroomery deal.


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: whatever123]
    #5656207 - 05/21/06 12:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've delt with llama here on the Shroomery, on Mycotopia, and off the Free Ethno Site, and all I have to say about him is that I thought he was a wonderful trader. Most of my stuff got here rather quickly, and it was all what was asked for. I give him a  :thumbup:.


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: whatever123]
    #5656292 - 05/21/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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True, but I expected no trade rating for my donations because it is not a shroomery deal.




???

I don't know llamabox in real life, so to arrange the donation, I PM'ed him from my Shroomery account. He received the seeds from someone at the Shroomery. It could be considered polite to give that person's Shroomery account a positive rating.

However, I'm not trying to derail this thread, so whatever.


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #5656372 - 05/21/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

No, I agree with you whole heartedly. It should result in a trade rating, but I also thought that maybe he rationalized by thinking that because it was an ethnoring deal and not a shroomery deal, he needn't rate people.


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: whatever123]
    #5656730 - 05/21/06 03:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

he said he would "resend" my stuff on 5/4/06, its the 21st now...ive waited over a month total "since i sent him my last package". im unfair...no. Now you guys are saying im a theif? and say im throwing slander? i havn't said anything thats not true!! but like i said in the email to him after that deadline i would assume i wouldn't receive it...and thats what i did.


p.s. thought it right to explain why i call someone a lair..you say you sent me package(i didn't receive it) you say you resent it( i didn't receive it) that to me says something ain't right, i checked and i did send you the right addy. so its nothing on my part.

so thats why i say lair you say you sent, but obously you didn't...not to me at least.

and why would you write this? unless you were assumeing i wouldn't get it? to delay purhaps? or because your not really sure if you sent it or not.

"I sent out your package. I told you if you did not recieve it I would resend."


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5676745 - 05/26/06 11:25 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

strange, tho this maybe off. i had a dealing with a member a while back and this same thing happened. i had to re-send my end 3 times. i was quite upset and was thinking this guy was trying to pull a fast one on me, anyways to find out that his packages and neighbors were being stolen, some were taken and found across town. (they didn't bother with envelope mails) anywho he even sent me my extras back with an apology.
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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5677497 - 05/26/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

this is why tracking numbers are available for a cheap price. You'd be suprised how much shit the post office/whatever mail carrier loses. I've dealt with llamabox and he was great. It sucks to not get what you're supposed to, when you're supposed to, but it happens. He will make it up to you (if he hasn't already).


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: demiu5]
    #5677556 - 05/26/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

makaveli no ones calling you a theif or a liar. I think the main point everyones trying to make is that he has not cheated anyone. Things do get lost in the mail. ive had to resend things out to people that never arrived. it happends. the best you can do is get a tracking number, they are like 53cents usualy. im currently in a trade with llamabox too, and so far he has kept good communication and is on top of things.
take a chill pill, smoke a blunt, put on some flowing jams, and kick back.


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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5677713 - 05/26/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i concurr with shroomie

not to long back i lost a whole box of cacti

never again will i opt out of a tracking number :smile:


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Re: llamabox is a GREAT trader!!!! [Re: Anonymous]
    #5677874 - 05/26/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah man trading on the Internet is stupid I agree.....
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Man, don't trade shit over the internet, it's a stupid idea PERIOD, especially on a drug website. The entire marketplace forum should be erased.




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Re: watch out for this trader! [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5683673 - 05/28/06 03:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

Reason:
OK, let's take this discussion back to PM's and trade ratings where it really ought to have stayed.

Even if llamabox had been dishonest, publicly exposing his wickedness is a bit dramatic.

Llamabox has a very good trade record, but on the other hand you however recieved nothing. This is not going to resolve so I'm pulling the plug on it like I should've done before. Please base your conclusion on the matters discussed and settle this amongst yourselves.


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