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psychonautix
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Scary Experience, need input.
#5653419 - 05/20/06 01:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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OK, I just got off the phone with my friend, we'll call him T. He was toking with another one of my friends, A, yesterday. Right in the middle of their joint, T, starts to go blind, and after a few moments completely loses all vision (this is how he described it to me, I wasn't there). According to T, he was rendered incapable of moving, so my friend A had to carry him inside. Inside, T began to regain his vision, and some ability to move. But when he did begin to see again, he described the visual state he was in as seeming like an acid flashback. I dismissed this notion as purely a placebo effect combined with being high (T hadn't smoked in nearly a month before this session). T has also always been apprehensive of having LSD flashbacks, so I don't think it would have been too hard for him to think this odd experience was a direct result. Today he called me to explain what happened; he also mentioned that his right hand still feels numb/tingly. I am really concerned for my friend, because this sounds like all of the tell tale signs of a stroke. I told him to get himself into a doctor right away, and that this probably wasn't caused by any of the drugs he's been taking.
T has been going to HSU for the past year, and the last time he took LSD was 3 weeks ago. I know LSD can only stay in your body for 48hrs, so I am sure this wasn't a result of that. But he has been taking E fairly more frequently than I think is OK (that is more than once every 2 months). So I'm a little worried that this stroke could have been caused by that.
One last thing to mention about this is that T said he might have forgotten to breath. I know this sounds silly, but its happened to me before, yet I have never experienced anything like what T described to me (I just get really tired). He thinks this might have been the cause because once he was inside he said he started to regulate his breathing (which I just think he means he became aware of it, cause you know how we kind of forget about breathing and it just carries on right? and we only notice it if we think about it) and after he "started breathing again" his vision returned and he was able to stand up. However, he described that part as feeling like he was convulsing even though he wasn't according to A. I think that this was also just because he was high, and tripping out.
SO, the main point of this post is to ask, has anyone experienced anything similar to this? Should my friend be worried about LSD or E being the cause? Or does this sound exactly like a stroke to anyone else?
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Re: Scary Experience, need input. [Re: psychonautix]
#5653459 - 05/20/06 02:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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It sounds like a minor stroke to me.How hot was it?Was T in the sun with no water and shit for a long period of time?I dont know anything about heat strokes,just throwing that up there though.He should deffinately go to a doctor.I doubt it is anything caused by drug use but I am not a doctor so I dont know.
Unless he just had a blackout.I somtimes have had this happen to me wen smoking weed.Not like a blackout like xanax or drunk blackout.But like a blackout or red out a pilot would experience.
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freshlyPLUMP
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Re: Scary Experience, need input. [Re: psychonautix]
#5653464 - 05/20/06 02:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think its low blood sugar I have had that happen to me before when I smoked
edit: I dont know about not being able to move though....
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Edited by freshlyPLUMP (05/20/06 02:13 PM)
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aNeway2sayHooray
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Re: Scary Experience, need input. [Re: freshlyPLUMP]
#5653468 - 05/20/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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good call
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alsnow469
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Re: Scary Experience, need input. [Re: psychonautix]
#5654731 - 05/20/06 10:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I pity the fool go blind smokin' reefthers
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eligal
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Re: Scary Experience, need input. [Re: psychonautix]
#5654795 - 05/20/06 10:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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i go with what they said up there (look up), but jsut a thought, i remember long long ago someone once mentioning that if the grower used really nasty water to water his plants then it can have a negative effect on the person who smokes it. highly unlikely, bot even sure if its even possible.....
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DeathCompany
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Re: Scary Experience, need input. [Re: eligal]
#5655061 - 05/21/06 12:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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erowid says a healthy standard of e is 2 times a month so its not that.
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monamine
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Re: Scary Experience, need input. [Re: DeathCompany]
#5655157 - 05/21/06 01:06 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
DeathCompany said: erowid says a healthy standard of e is 2 times a month so its not that.
link?
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stefan
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He should deffinately go to a doctor.
definitely!
better safe than sorry...
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