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DoctorJ


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We must re-purpose the military
#5653365 - 05/20/06 01:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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400 billion a year on the military. What a waste.
Do you think that God appreciates the fact that the main product of mankind is war? I assure you, he does not.
But I also realize that all those people will not give up their jobs. All those contractors will not give up their looting of the American treasury.
This is why, instead of disassembling the military, I think it should be re-purposed.
Lets point those rockets at the sky instead of at eachother. Lets turn those fighter pilots into astronauts.
The same expertise and technology that is useful in war is also useful in space exploration. Do you think this is a coincidence?
I believe that the Planet of Mars once had life, and that that life destroyed itself through war. Now, it is the job of Earth's warriors to restart life on the planet mars.
Mars is the God of war. So, if you are on Earth, and you like war, GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM! Start a new war on mars, but this war will be the war of life against non-life. We can explore, terraform, and colonize Mars with the technology we have RIGHT NOW. We have an entire world's worth of resources to gain by doing so.
So quit blowing eachother up, and do something productive. The military needs to go into space, and conquer it, instead of re-conquering the people of earth over and over again. Don't you guys get tired of playing the same old game? Aren't you ready for the next level? I think so.
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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: DoctorJ]
#5653424 - 05/20/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh why extend the suffering? Let everything continue on it's self-destructive path and burn itself out so we can move on.
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DoctorJ


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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5653487 - 05/20/06 02:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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the earth is important. It must not be destroyed until its task of seeding the universe with life is completed.
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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: DoctorJ]
#5653498 - 05/20/06 02:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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If it's that important then I'm sure God will see to it that everything works out O.K....
Hit the road and see some shows and get fucked up and forget all about it. Makes about as much sense as saying you're going to alter the military one iota, and it's a lot more fun.
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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: DoctorJ]
#5653609 - 05/20/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not sure how God figures into the form of our defense (hopefully not at all), but I think we need to rein our defense in and increase the strength of our national security. Our boys overseas could be doing a much more important job by patrolling our borders.
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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: Redstorm]
#5653641 - 05/20/06 03:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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But if they were patrolling your borders who would be exposing themselves to deadly agrichemicals in California so you could get spotless fruits? I propose a war on obesity, basically you deploy troops in Texas and get them to open fire indiscriminately. It would probably wind up killing less innocent people than Iraq has.
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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: Andy21]
#5653654 - 05/20/06 03:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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It doesn't matter to me who would be taking care of the fruits. Probably legal Mexican immigrants.
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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: Redstorm]
#5653672 - 05/20/06 03:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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But mexicans are so sweet, like Fez out of that seventies show. How could you hate Fez? He just wants what everybody wants, to lose his virginity.
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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: DoctorJ]
#5653684 - 05/20/06 03:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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DoctorJ said: 400 billion a year on the military. What a waste.
Do you think that God appreciates the fact that the main product of mankind is war? I assure you, he does not.
Aside from the obvious foolishness of an imaginary best friend we have the even more foolish notion that DoctorJ knows its mind. Yep, makes sense to me.Quote:
But I also realize that all those people will not give up their jobs. All those contractors will not give up their looting of the American treasury.
Looting is theft. Except for the occasional instances of fraud the money seems to be willingly spent by the duly elected representatives of the people. This particular voter believes that money spent to ensure that we have the greatest military ever is money that is well spent. This is how we preserve our wealth. By making it impossible for others to take it by force. Quote:
This is why, instead of disassembling the military, I think it should be re-purposed.
Lets point those rockets at the sky instead of at eachother. Lets turn those fighter pilots into astronauts.
Astronauts are far more expensive than fighter pilots. And they do what, exactly?Quote:
The same expertise and technology that is useful in war is also useful in space exploration. Do you think this is a coincidence?
No. What's your point?Quote:
I believe that the Planet of Mars once had life, and that that life destroyed itself through war. Now, it is the job of Earth's warriors to restart life on the planet mars.
You are perfect. I think you need to volunteer.Quote:
Mars is the God of war. So, if you are on Earth, and you like war, GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM! Start a new war on mars, but this war will be the war of life against non-life. We can explore, terraform, and colonize Mars with the technology we have RIGHT NOW. We have an entire world's worth of resources to gain by doing so.
So just what god do you think there is? Just priceless nonsense and drivel. Colonize Mars?????? Somebody's been eating Johnny cakes because there's no other drug that can induce this state of delusion.
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So quit blowing eachother up, and do something productive. The military needs to go into space, and conquer it, instead of re-conquering the people of earth over and over again. Don't you guys get tired of playing the same old game? Aren't you ready for the next level? I think so.
Yeah OK. Let's all hold hands and sing.
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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: zappaisgod]
#5653732 - 05/20/06 03:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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What are Johnnie cakes? We do not have those in England. We have French Fancies, they are delightful. Your bit about holding hands and singing made me choke on my drink. hehe
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DoctorJ


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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: zappaisgod]
#5653835 - 05/20/06 04:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Aside from the obvious foolishness of an imaginary best friend we have the even more foolish notion that DoctorJ knows its mind. Yep, makes sense to me.
Imaginary? You need to do some more reading. Just because you haven't seen the proof that God exists, doesn't mean he doesn't exist. It just means he doesn't exist to you. Which is a real bad position to be in, my friend. I'd suggest you get crackin on that right away.
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Looting is theft. Except for the occasional instances of fraud the money seems to be willingly spent by the duly elected representatives of the people. This particular voter believes that money spent to ensure that we have the greatest military ever is money that is well spent. This is how we preserve our wealth. By making it impossible for others to take it by force.
Force can mean a lot of things. It could mean, for example, taking a bunch of representatives to the strip bar, wining and dining them, blackmailing them with personal secrets. You think that military contractors don't coerce our representatives by whatever means necessary? Now who's being naive?
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Astronauts are far more expensive than fighter pilots. And they do what, exactly?
uhhh... seek out and explore new civilizations? Bodly go where no man has gone before? Awwww, whassamata? Too big an idea for your wittle brain?
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No. What's your point?
the point is that military tech is like a kitchen knife. We could use that knife to cut ourselves and others, or we could use that knife to cook dinner. Which do you think is more intelligent?
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So just what god do you think there is? Just priceless nonsense and drivel. Colonize Mars?????? Somebody's been eating Johnny cakes because there's no other drug that can induce this state of delusion.
again, you need to do more reading. "Mars Direct" by Zubrin outlines a plan of exploration and colonization that we could begin RIGHT NOW, at a cost of about 5 billion a year. We don't need space stations, moonbases, or any og that. With what we have right now, we can establish a foothold on Mars that will eventually become an entire colony.
You really should try to actually understand what you are talking about before you berate my ideas. Obviously, you are behind on your reading old man.
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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: Andy21]
#5653901 - 05/20/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Andy21 said: What are Johnnie cakes? We do not have those in England. We have French Fancies, they are delightful. Your bit about holding hands and singing made me choke on my drink. hehe
Although there is an actual food item known as a johnny cake what I was referring to is also often called a urinal cake and is the hockey puck sized deodorizer put in urinals. Often served dipped in chocolate. Has tremendous hallucinatory effects, so I'm told.
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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: zappaisgod]
#5656676 - 05/21/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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A lot of generals are actually for cutting military spending.
A lot of the criticism for too much spending is actually caused by Black Ops. Even though black ops gave us the f-117 and the B-2, I think, black ops waste a lot of money.
The government basically gives away billions to contractors and a lot of the time that money is wasted. I think people want more oversight over the Black Ops projects but some might argue that they won't "Black Ops" if people know about them.
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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: downforpot]
#5656728 - 05/21/06 03:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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sometimes you gotta have black ops. Sometimes, the people's ignorance is for their own benefit. Believe me, I understand this.
But the military has great power, as they should. My main concern is that they use that power with intelligence and wisdom. Obviously there have been times in both the past and present where military power has been abused, which ultimately led to the detriment of not only the military, but all of mankind.
I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, especially not a group of people that could easily destroy my world, if they were foolish enough to want to. I just think the military could be more constructive with all that money we give them.
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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: DoctorJ]
#5656734 - 05/21/06 03:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Constructive like going to Mars?
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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: Redstorm]
#5656756 - 05/21/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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fuck yeah, going to mars would be very constructive!
promoting freedom and democracy in the places where these things have no foothold is constructive!
But wasting taxpayer money with unecessary porkbarrel is not constructive. Starting unecessary wars is not constructive. Building enough nuclear weapons to destroy the world many times over is not constructive. Causing undue pain and suffering is not constructive. Using our military to prop up brutal dictatorships in the 3rd world is not constructive.
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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: DoctorJ]
#5656779 - 05/21/06 03:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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DoctorJ said: the earth is important. It must not be destroyed until its task of seeding the universe with life is completed.
I have a feeling that somewere way way way out there, there is a supper smart huge culter out there that plants the seed of life on habitible planets and they planted us a long long ass time ago. Theyr job was to spread life, our job was to destroy it and fix their mistake.
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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: DoctorJ]
#5657037 - 05/21/06 04:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I can not think of a much bigger waste of money than going to Mars.
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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: Redstorm]
#5657374 - 05/21/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: I can not think of a much bigger waste of money than going to Mars.
It was a waste of money for Columbus to try to get to the Indies, total waste, it's a fact.
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Re: We must re-purpose the military [Re: DoctorJ]
#5657381 - 05/21/06 05:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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DoctorJ said: sometimes you gotta have black ops. Sometimes, the people's ignorance is for their own benefit. Believe me, I understand this.
But the military has great power, as they should. My main concern is that they use that power with intelligence and wisdom. Obviously there have been times in both the past and present where military power has been abused, which ultimately led to the detriment of not only the military, but all of mankind.
I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, especially not a group of people that could easily destroy my world, if they were foolish enough to want to. I just think the military could be more constructive with all that money we give them.
The problem is that billions are wasted. The generals aren't advocating cutting the number of troops. They just don't want billions wasted. A lot of that waste is due to the Black Ops which no one even knows about, not even Congress. They just approve billions to contractors without knowing everything, without knowing if theres any progress.
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