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HyphalTryptamin
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Trips getting a bit repetitive
#5652250 - 05/20/06 02:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hi everyone. So yes. Lately, I've been finding that even on 6 dry grams of HPoo grown cubes I'm still not going beyond high level 3.
My visuals are all similar. There aren't any radical colour changes on open eye, but alot of tracers and "breathing" with some understated kaleidoscopic effects.
Closed eye, I don't think I've gone beyond 2D visuals, maybe slight bevelled patterns, but nothing more.
Thats another thing. I'm really insensitive to being frightened on my trips. I'll try and pull as many evil faces as I can in the mirror, and just carry on. Even in a film, demons and things haven't moved me. I'm thinking that this would be good for higher intensity experiences.
The euphoria at the start is huge though, the comeup is really fast. But again, it's getting samey. Alot of confirmation of things I've learnt on this sort of dose, very rapidly.
I'm wondering whether I need 5-HT capsules, or what sort of thing I'm lacking which gives me such a high tolerance. I weigh 70kg so nothing extraordinary.
Otherwise, I'm looking at doing alot of heroic doses in combination with MAOinhibitor probably. I feel I can risk it now that I can't really get very scared.
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stemmer
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If you dont see "3D" visuals from 6 grams I dont know what to say to you that is constructive. Why are you trying to see evil faces, thats not what mushrooms are for.......
I think you have read to much crap about the "level" of your trips. If it is boring you you should stop for a while, or eat a shitload of datura and scare yourself from hallucinogens forever(serves you right,... kidding). No radical color changes on 6 grams...really?????
Im sorry, but if mushrooms ever get boring its because you know nothing of what they have to offer. They dont give incredible insights and even more than that to "simple folk". Mushrooms just dont do the same things to people who have their heads up their asses. So no you dont "need" to take anything else to make your shrooms "work better". It might help if you took 3.5 grams of rue with it. That might answer your questions as to, why cant I "get off" on 6 grams? Not getting 3D visuals off of 6 grams is very funny dude. Looking for evil faces is even funnier. I cant help but to have an attitude about how you are so greatly misrepresenting the effects of mushrooms. Are you looking to become scared? If that what you thus far equate with getting to a "high level"? Im not suggesting you should read up any more about this stuff. If your not afraid to get scared then your likely not afraid to get sick. SO eat more or just stop eating them. Your expectations sound like the kind of thing that likely fucked up your path toward respecting these hallucinogens. I might be wrong though. So ya. If its not giving you the intensity you desire I dont know what to say besides take more. Better yet, take 3.5 or 4 grams of rue with 6 grams. Thats a pretty fucked up idea though. It would add much needed longevity to the experience and you might even want out far before the long trip is over. So good luck with the whole, Seeing 3d visuals/ getting scared thing.
Dont shit on my comments. Im just projecting about people I know. I dont know a damn thing about this guy except that he doesnt get 3d visuals and likes to try to scare himself, or something(whatever he was saying)..... In reality I wouldnt recommend 4 grams of rue and 6 grams of shrooms to anybody. But If he really isnt getting what he is looking for, that is one way to do it.
Edited by stemmer (05/20/06 03:22 AM)
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HyphalTryptamin
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Re: Trips getting a bit repetitive [Re: stemmer]
#5652296 - 05/20/06 03:38 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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What I'm trying to say is that I was guaging how easily scared or not, I'd be if I was to face potentially disturbing visions on higher doses, as higher doses are renowned for their intensity. This would mean I could go into a very intense dose more safely.
The insight side, is fine, but I'm not getting any new ones, because at the minute all they are are confirmations of conclusions I've already come to.
So please spare the holier than thou attitude because if knowledge base is what you're on about then I'm perfectly well off.
Accusing me of misrepresenting, is also far off. The experience as you should well know is different for every one of us, and is reliant upon many factors, including chemical makeup.
Unfortunately, no. No radical colour changes on open eye. Slight tinges, but nothing special.
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Evil faces shouldnt really scare you while tripping was part of what I was saying. Evil faces are the least of your concerns when taking a high dose.
I did my best to make you know that I separate myself from being holier than thou. I am not.
The brash way in which you presented yourself does misrepresent a level 5 or what the hell ever.
If you want to be scared in any way, or have an absolutely mindblowing trip, take 6 grams of shrooms with 4 grams of rue. You might regret it, but you might experience the fear.
By the way, radical color changes dont always happen with hallucinogens. Visuals are made of color, thats where the color change comes into play. If you cant see visuals very well(geometric/organic designs), you wont see colors change dramatically. That does differ between people. Thats nothing that cant be changed with experience. Thats why I recommended you take your own version of a herioc dose, or take some maois with 6 grams(6 grams being so very intense and all).
Its all good man. Whatever you want to do to yourself to re-learn that tripping isnt always the same......... Best advise: It sounds like you trip alot on mushrooms. Wait a good long time. Get your life into perspective without hallucinogens and then tweak it with a VERY high dose. Thats not bad advise. Im not a bad guy.
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#5652315 - 05/20/06 04:05 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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HyphalTryptamin
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Re: Trips getting a bit repetitive [Re: stemmer]
#5652324 - 05/20/06 04:19 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fairplay stemmer, I'll bear it all in mind. Thanks for the advice.
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Re: Trips getting a bit repetitive [Re: ]
#5652327 - 05/20/06 04:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you eat mushrooms once a month at high doses you have firmly set the basis on which people begin to loose sight of the mor natural path, (educational progression of each trip adding upon the next).
Life and time adding upon life. Even if you take high enough doses to loose your "self" very quickly, the messages from that realm become hard to interpret. They just seem like last months trip. Its kind of like: trip when you really want to learn/ to be thrown into that clusterfuck, and dont trip because it will work or because you waited long enough/you want to have a trippy night. Messages from places we cannot normally comprehend do not take kindly to seekers of fun and do not necessarily add knowledge to each trip(much like the fractal memory). Those "entities" will fuck with you, (them being chemical or other things). Dont cross them with ill intent. They are teachers, often heard by enlightened people(not that you are not), You need to figure out what visuals have to do with all of this. You cant learn that on purpose though. You cant see extreemely scary visions on purpose. There is no bloodied face or lewd act that can scare you as badly as what these drugs can offer. So if 6 grams doesnt do any of these things for you, then up the dose(take some maois if you really want to experience something new).
Im sure you know what your doing. This is a continuation of my last post. Its for all those other people out there. I wish you much luck with your heroic dose. 3.5 grams of rue with 6 grams should really doo it for you.
Rue tea or chewed(I dont mind chewed but many people do), then the mushrooms .5 hours later. You seem like the right kind of person to take that dose. It will blow your mind and could make you feel like you just ate 10 grams or so, with some additional effects caused by the hallucinogenic rue(by its self).
Good luck. I would highly recommend some rue. Follow the dietary requirements. After a trip like that you have taken a form of ayahuasca. It will change things. MAOIS really change your brain for better or worse.
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HyphalTryptamin
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Re: Trips getting a bit repetitive [Re: stemmer]
#5652341 - 05/20/06 05:05 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mmm, I think you're right in the sense of regularity and things.
I feel almost that I've read too much about these experiences and come to start expecting more turbulent affairs when I do them. I've read Gnostic gospels, several terence mckenna books, the psychedelic experience, dmt: the spirit molecule, the diamond sutra, choose your poison, doors of perception, heaven and hell which all cover similar topics and if you can make sense of them, they interlink in many ways.
I think the knowledge base has been inversely helpful, to the degree where I've built up, not a rigid philosophy, obviously still open to all ideas, but covers all the things which I experience in my trips- which gives me that sense of repetition.
Things like the concept of gaia, or the gnostic symbolism of "the devil" and "the creator", the concept of physical suffering etc etc are all complimented by my trips and by the majority of other people's too, although these insights may be encountered on higher more mindblowing experiences, or others might perceive this on a lower dose. Depends on the person. I suppose it depends on ones' ability to extrapolate meaning sensibly, too.
There is so much more for me to know, and I have a strong desire to learn it through transcendental experience, this is why I'm hoping that laying off expectations, laying off books and other peoples' experiences, taking time out and upping the dose highly, should help.
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mesc gives me alot of dark demonic stuff and naked dancing chicks in posters
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Set and setting, man. Are you tripping in the same place all the time? If so, change it up. Go to a new park or on a camping trip. Or just go out at night alone in a forest! 
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I've read Gnostic gospels, several terence mckenna books, the psychedelic experience, dmt: the spirit molecule, the diamond sutra, choose your poison, doors of perception, heaven and hell which all cover similar topics and if you can make sense of them, they interlink in many ways.
I think the knowledge base has been inversely helpful, to the degree where I've built up, not a rigid philosophy, obviously still open to all ideas, but covers all the things which I experience in my trips- which gives me that sense of repetition.
Sounds like you are getting close to realizing the holographic form of reality. I would suggest reading some David Icke and a strong trip in a forest.
That sense of repitition, the world coming into being and then going out into nothing, is key.
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Re: Trips getting a bit repetitive [Re: mecreateme]
#5652878 - 05/20/06 10:41 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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mecreateme said: Set and setting, man. Are you tripping in the same place all the time? If so, change it up. Go to a new park or on a camping trip. Or just go out at night alone in a forest! 
I'd say this is the best advice. Trip somewhere you've never been before (assuming you'd be able to get back home from there ) and space out your trips. Give yourself two months, at very least. Refrain from drinking, smoking, everything. And then have yourself a blowout. The tolerance/jaded feeling could just be because you're doing too much too often. Remember how incredible your first trip ever was? Good. Now recreate the fact that you don't know what to expect.
Hope this helps, good luck!
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Rather than thinking "I'm not getting visuals" simply learn to be happy with the current situation. Even if you don't feel like you're tripping at all, as long as you feel happy, you're happy. Don't ruin it by wishing you had more. (I usually find situations like this either lead to an intense experience or an amazing yet mild trip).
Medications could possible play a role in your lack of a trip as well, although I could be wrong. I seem to remember someone on here mentioning that some people simply have a natural resistance to psilocybin. Just something I remembered hearing
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Take ecstasy it will make you go in a lvl 5 trip.
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Re: Trips getting a bit repetitive [Re: bluehawk]
#5653587 - 05/20/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Have you tried sucking down some nitrous while tripping?
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thedudenj
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Re: Trips getting a bit repetitive [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#5655400 - 05/21/06 04:17 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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you know try tripping on differnt stuff or have ayahuaca cause i have had few aya trips that are repetitive and if that doesnt work to to vastly differnt places to trip
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Re: Trips getting a bit repetitive [Re: bluehawk]
#5655499 - 05/21/06 06:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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bluehawk said: Take ecstasy it will make you go in a lvl 5 trip.
that is no longer a trip...that is the realm of the hippie flip!!
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Re: Trips getting a bit repetitive [Re: magic8ball]
#5656046 - 05/21/06 12:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just wondering if you might be taking any anti-depressants. SSRI's (like prozac) can really kill your trips.
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HyphalTryptamin
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Re: Trips getting a bit repetitive [Re: ngnyus]
#5656908 - 05/21/06 04:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not no. Yes I'm seriously considering doing aya. DMT sounds fantastic really, and it's not very expensive either 
I'll be sure to change the setting. I'll be trying shroom aya, DMT ayahuasca, and wondering whether it's possible to do it with mescaline :P
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and if u cant fit it in...take a good dose of LSD!
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Hmm well you can get a tolerance to shrooms very quickly. They say it takes around a week for your shroom tolerance to return to normal. And if thats not the case for you, i would recommend the method of ingestion stated on a previous post.
That is to get cranberry juice, a shot glass, and something to grind up your mushrooms almost into powder. Then mix the shroom powder with the cranberry juice and let it sit for 10-20 mins. Drink when ready.
That is supposed to intesify the trip signficantly, I however, have never tried it.
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