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Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic?
    #5651714 - 05/19/06 10:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have yet to hallucinate on it... And yet so many sources refer to it as a hallucinogen?


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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: MustardMan]
    #5651739 - 05/19/06 10:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It is possible. Just earlier this week I had an unusual intense high and found myself lying in bed watching tv (the screen looked very 'detatched') with some dot patterns going over my vision thinking "Could I have put the bud in a baggie with some other drug in it?" (of course knowing this wasn't possible deep inside). But yeah... It does happen...


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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: MustardMan]
    #5651753 - 05/19/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Just because it doesn't work that way for you, doesn't mean it isn't hallucinogenic.

Some very useful pharmaceutical drugs can cause death in normal dosages for certain people... so from the POV of those people, it's just a poison. Should those drugs be classified as poisons? :wink:


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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: Konnrade]
    #5651776 - 05/19/06 10:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

try a tincture or just eating a small amount, then smoke on it.

set and setting play big roles too. stare into some trees, unfocus your eyes


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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: christ_house]
    #5651800 - 05/19/06 11:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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try a tincture or just eating a small amount, then smoke on it.

set and setting play big roles too. stare into some trees, unfocus your eyes





Hmm.. Well what I have experienced is, trees looking as though they are drawn in anime, and views looking like art. Don't really think that is a hallucination, guess It doesn't effect me that way, :frown:


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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: MustardMan]
    #5652513 - 05/20/06 07:36 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Weed can be very trippy. However, its not like a Mushroom or LSD trip. However, after smoking weed, I have had rather complex CEVs, and OEVs with objects animating, walls breathing, increased apprecation for music, etc.

Sure, its not really in the same class/intensity of Mushrooms, LSD, Mescaline, DMT, etc - but that doesnt stop the fact that it can be very psychedelic.

Also, certian strains of weed are 'trippier' than others.


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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: kaniz]
    #5652551 - 05/20/06 08:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

ive gotten minor cevs and sometimes lights seem brighter when ive been on really good herb...i get real spacey sometimes to...and increased appreciation for music...


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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: camelsmoker]
    #5652555 - 05/20/06 08:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I smoked weed for years before i tried pills, and i can say that i have hallucinated of weed about 3 times in my life. Once was the first time i smoked, and i kept seeing dogs everywhere out the corner of my eyes, and shit move, the second was i kept hearing a mobile phone ring cant remember the third.

Some ppl do and some dont. My friend hardly ever smokes and when i smoked with her once, we were looking up at the stars and she said they were all flashing multicolored and shit.

I like to think of weed more as just a good compliment to other drugs


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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: MustardMan]
    #5652605 - 05/20/06 08:36 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I have yet to hallucinate on it... And yet so many sources refer to it as a hallucinogen?




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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: MustardMan]
    #5652637 - 05/20/06 08:48 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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MustardMan said:
I have yet to hallucinate on it... And yet so many sources refer to it as a hallucinogen?




You're expecting too much. You're not going to see people morph out of your wall and eat your cheese; but chemically it has the properties of a hallucinogen. Like others have said, it does indeed affect your vision sometimes, and often your auditory sense.

I often think I hear somone calling me from the other room if I get really high, or hear other strange sounds that don't exist.
If you want to experience any sort of visual disruption on weed, you really have to let your mind wander and want to see it. Even then, if you're expecting mushroom-like visuals, eat some mushrooms!


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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: bongoboy2000]
    #5652659 - 05/20/06 08:59 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Smoke some c99 or some haze :thumbup:


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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: MustardMan]
    #5652843 - 05/20/06 10:27 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the hallucinogenic properties become more apparent for me when taken orally + smoking later but that doesn't neccesarily mean that one can expect tryptamine-like visuals. when JUST smoking some good herb i almost always get much brighter colors (especially green), light trails (especially flies), subtle emerging patterns.. like tree-bark, etc

they're not going to jump out at you.. unless of course you're already in the depths of a tryptamine experience. i can then expect much more than visual accentuation. but that's another topic


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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: christ_house]
    #5652857 - 05/20/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

when i smoke a bowl or two and its dark outside, there are alot of colors that i see out of the corner of my eye in the darkness... also i hear alot of things such as loud stomping or booming... idk it affects everyone differently i guess.


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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: wortiesbo]
    #5652997 - 05/20/06 11:21 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the term 'hallucinogen' is a misnomer. Psychedelic sounds correct.


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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #5653073 - 05/20/06 11:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

auditory hallucinations are pretty common. Especially if you smoke alone. I always think I'm hearing someone calling me or phones ringing, or sometimes even music. As far as visual changes go, I often get a 'detached' look to things (as if they're not really part of what I'm looking at but almost like they've been layered over a foreground... If that makes any sense). 'scattered' vision (splitting double vision and just really hard to foccus) and occasionally dots or basic patterns forming over my field of vision (rare)


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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: MustardMan]
    #5653248 - 05/20/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Auditory hallucinations can easily be acheived from smoking a high quality sativa or hashish. Oral consumption leads to increasingly vivid CEVs and sometimes OEVs.

I just ate a pot cookie last night, and it was about the size of 4 skittles. I hallucinated while on the computer about 2 hours after ingestion. Saw lots of tracers and OEVs in the corner of my eye, so I got off the computer and did some other things. I enjoyed exploring my physche, playing around with visuals and distinguishing night time ambients from hallucinatory audio/visual components. Ahhh very tough!

But yeah, not only in my opinion would I say that marijuana is a hallucinogen, but I would back that one up with science.

Just because you haven't experienced this, that doesn't mean that it's not true. That means that you aren't smoking the best weed or having been in the right setting.

When you take psychedelics and have too much anticipation for tripping out and seeing shit, you will end up very disappointed unless you take a heroic dosage. Just let it come to you and don't try forcing anything out of it or searching for things. When it does hit you, go with it and analyze things. Whenever I had set the wrong expectations in the past, I never enjoyed any psychedelic substances. Now I've been able to really understand them.


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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: browndustin]
    #5653316 - 05/20/06 01:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"The latin root of 'hallucinogen' is hallucinari, or elucinari, which translates as 'mind-wandering' or 'mind-travelling'. By moving beyond the obvious association to hallucination, which itself is defined as a false perception or false idea, and examining 'hallucinogen' from the perspective of the induction of mind voyaging, the term is no longer constrained within the fixed, pathological framework.." - Gary L. Bravo, M.D.


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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: christ_house]
    #5654002 - 05/20/06 05:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I hallucinate almost each time I smoke up. Then again I only smopke the best.

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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: theuser]
    #5654040 - 05/20/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Why has no one corrected this statement? Marijuana is NOT classified as a hallucinogen - it's a depressant.


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Re: Why is weed considered a hallucinogenic? [Re: Morph89]
    #5654047 - 05/20/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

GOTTA MAKE SURE TO CLASSIFY IT ASAP!!!!


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