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Galerina Marginata vs. Conocybe cyanopus
    #5650223 - 05/19/06 01:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hey everyone! I've got a few mushrooms that I picked yesterday nearby. Since they were my first picked, I'm not really expecting too much from them, but I would also like to test my information I've collected against the opinions of everyone here at the forum. These mushrooms were found in a moist area with some grass growing. There were some fallen trees nearby and a few mushrooms were originating near them. Sorry I did not take a picture of the habitat :frown: . These mushrooms were *NOT* in large clusters or groups. The most I found together were probably 3 or 4. The mushrooms were spread out a few feet one to the other. Here are the details:

Cap: Brown color when picked, and what looks like a nice white-ish to gray ring around the cap near where the gills meet the cap on underside. Around 3-5 cm across
Gills: brown color, as you will see in the photos, and like other mushrooms, fragile when poked with finger.
Stem: White to just off white, very thin, about 5 mm in width. When squeezed, very watery.
Spore print: Spore print was done for only an hour or so, and it turned up a dark brown with a very faint purply tinge.
Scent: medium potent classic mushroom smell

Now, I named this post Galerina Marginata vs. Conocybe cyanopus because the first thing that I got to thinking and researching was that I had some deadly mushrooms on my hands. AHH! However, while I was matching the characteristics of the Galerina Marginata to Conocybe cyanopus, I found the Conocybe Cyanopus has a watery stem. Alas! Whereas the Galerina Marginata has a dry stem. Otherwise, photos on the web have not proven to be very useful in distinguishing them... But only to narrow down my options... No bruising color either... Here are the pictures:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v27/hippy_skier/Mushroom3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v27/hippy_skier/Mushroom2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v27/hippy_skier/Mushroom.jpg

Thanks again for all your help!


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Re: Galerina Marginata vs. Conocybe cyanopus [Re: Choobs]
    #5650530 - 05/19/06 02:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think you have Psathyrella on your hands but I don't need to remind you not to eat them buggers.


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I think my eyes are getting better. Instead of a big dark blur I see a big light blur.

俺のシロシャイビケッルリプスがここです。

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Re: Galerina Marginata vs. Conocybe cyanopus [Re: baycafe]
    #5650563 - 05/19/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Psathyrella... Now there's one I've never heard of. That was the dilemma I had when researching information on this type of mushroom, as you can't just type into google: "small brown mushroom" :smile: lol. I really need a field guide to match pics and descriptions in field. Anyone recommend some good ones? And will all guides cover both active and regular ones? thanks again everyone, and thanks for the quick response baycafe!


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Re: Galerina Marginata vs. Conocybe cyanopus [Re: Choobs]
    #5650662 - 05/19/06 03:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Different guides cover different mushrooms and I am not aware of any guide that covers all the species that you might run into. Everyone seems to highly recommend "Mushrooms demystified" but I haven't looked into myself.


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I think my eyes are getting better. Instead of a big dark blur I see a big light blur.

俺のシロシャイビケッルリプスがここです。

東京スカパラダイスオクストラ


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Re: Galerina Marginata vs. Conocybe cyanopus [Re: Choobs]
    #5651268 - 05/19/06 06:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Psathyrella seems a reasonable guess, as baycafe suggested. A test that shows a lot of Psathyrella species similar to those is to try snapping the stem with your fingers. Many species of Psathyrella will snap with an audible sound, unlike most other mushrooms.

Mushrooms Demystified is highly recommended because of the excellent keys and the large number of species (edible, poisonous, active, unknown) covered. There is no book that will cover every mushroom you'll ever find, unfortunately.

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: Galerina Marginata vs. Conocybe cyanopus [Re: Choobs]
    #5651495 - 05/19/06 08:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Conocybe cyanopus:

Cap: .7-1.2 (2-5) cm broad. Hemispherical to convex, expanding to broadly convex with age, sometimes conic. Margin translucent-striate when moist. Yellow-umber to cinnamon or reddish-cinnamon.

Gills: adnexed, close and broad. Dull rusty brown with a white fringe along the margin.

Stem: 20-40 mm long x 1-1.4 thick. Usually a wtery clear looking whitish stem.

Spores: 6.5-7.5 (.5) x 4.5-5m.

Sporeprint: Rusty brown.

Habitat: Scattered in grassy areas and fields, often growing from sphaghum moss.

Distribution: Oregon, Washington and British Columbia, Canada.

Season: Spring, Summer and fall.

Comment: This species grows in sphaghum moss during the early spring rains along streams and riverbanks in grassy areas. I found this species only twice during the past 25 years. It has a watery white stem with an enlarged base which is blue.

Dosage: 40-50 small specimens. Usually weighing a third of a fresh ounce.

Image of Conocybe cyanopus:



Usually the base will turn blue. These are from a small sheep field trunning along the santiam River off of the I-5 exit to Salem Oregon, from 1978.

No need to go down to oregon to look for them.

The field was replaced years ago with a warehouse. They were growing from sphagum moss and the bases blued after collecting them. By the time I got to a camera back in Seattler four hours later, the bluing had faded and the photo is from a xerox copy of a slide and the original slides were lost in the 1980s.

I also found some out in Tukwilla in 1985, and never since.

Here is a picture of Galerina marginata in alder chips and mixed hardwoods. This species also can occur in grass where grasse (sod) has been laid over old woodchipped gardens and vise-versa.



Very easy to distinguis.

RTemember the habitat for Conocybe cyanop. Right now they should be up in the PNW.

I usually tell everyone to avoid any orange to rusty colored spored shrooms and any white gilled shrooms when hunting for magic shrooms. That way you eleimnate your chance of eating something deadly poisonous. Oreating some of the most poisonous species .

mj


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Re: Galerina Marginata vs. Conocybe cyanopus [Re: mjshroomer]
    #5653951 - 05/20/06 05:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

great info mjshroomer! thanks a bunch for all the info on Conocybe Cyanopus and distinguishing them from Galerinas. And thanks to everyone else for the great input on various shrooming guides!


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