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Water Travel
    #5649977 - 05/19/06 12:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I am terrified of ocean travel whether it be in planes or boats Sinking would suck but crashing in a plane would be a whole lot worse if you survived.
Boat = Drowning (My second worst phobia)
Plane = Floating in shark infested waters with atleast 20-40 disembodied corpses floating around me :shock:

Yesterday, my friend and I came to the conclusion that a submarine type deal would be ideal or underwater travel - WAY safer then a boat due to the lower risk of collision and waves toppling you..

I was wondering if they sell personal submarines,
Relatively decent sized ones ya know?

Anyone ever consider this before and looked into it?
The real problems I see arising from this is the Government thinking your a foreign sub or some type of drug smuggling sub.  This is my biggest fear of submarine travel.

Is it weird I want my own submarine? I seriously think it's the safest water travel possible..as well as the most fun! :smile:

So, submarines for sale anyone?
(I've come across a few sites with these shitty mini subs and one that is for people to sell big navy surplus subs yet I still haven't seen a nice full size one for sale with a price ya know?)


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Re: Water Travel [Re: TheDudeAbides]
    #5650091 - 05/19/06 12:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Try Russia. I hear you can get a sub/crew for a mill or two. I think i'd rather trust a plane though. I mean..the chances of you living through a plane crashing in the ocean is next to none. Unless you end up like the guy in that movie Cast Away. That'd suck.


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Re: Water Travel [Re: TheDudeAbides]
    #5650589 - 05/19/06 03:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Dude, I understand what you mean, but I can assure you that no plane is gonna crash in the middle of the ocean in your lifetime. There are a hell of a lot of security meassures so you're close enough to an airport so you can glide saffely to it, so even if all engines broke (quite improbable) you'd just land ok.

It's more probable for you to die while crapping in the bathroom than in a plane. Trust me, I'm studying for pilot :yesnod:


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Re: Water Travel [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
    #5650826 - 05/19/06 04:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ooooo,
How much is that costing you deep?
School + Liscense

When I started this thread I assume some company made civilian  submarines for say.....family travelling or other weirdo's like me :confused:
I don't want nuclear or anything just maybe a diesel kind of deal? (Convert to veggie :smile: )

Does this make sense to anyone else? It seems like the safest form of water travel or atleast in my mind. 
Somekind of military stipulations or something? I mean, I can see a company building submarines for familys or people who just plain want them to travel!
Maybe I should think of going into some kind of submarine construction buisness.....How much could it really cost to make a cheap effecient underwater travelling machine for people?


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Re: Water Travel [Re: TheDudeAbides]
    #5651072 - 05/19/06 05:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

HAHA YOU ARE CRAZY, ITS COOL


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Re: Water Travel [Re: TheDudeAbides]
    #5651306 - 05/19/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well, I don't really know this for sure, but I'd say it's quite likely that you'd need some sort of license and you couldn't just go everywhere with it, since most submarines are militar.

Also, it's probably incredibly expensive to keep a diesel submarine, and what about parking! :lol:

My advice is, and don't take this the wrong way, 'coz after all is your life, to take a class to get your phobia to planes out of your system, or realize you're not going to drown if anythings happens to a boat (which is highly unlikely, I've manned little boats on my own).

It'd be a lot cheaper, even tho a little less flashy that calling your local port to announce you're going to a picnic over international waters :grin:

Oh, and I'm still learning the theory about flying and training in simulators (MSFS and X-plane), so I can't tell you about school prices -yet-. But I can tell you it's completely safe, I've landed a boeing 777 on a sim with no engines, and it was smooth enough for the grandmas on the plane. Actually, I had problems not going TOO fast horizontally!!


BTW, I started getting interested in this because of Annom, so here goes my thanks :wink:

PS: On an interesting note that might help you solve your fears, I'd tell you that for every ten feet of altitude, a plane can glide 100 feet horizontally, so if you're flying at 11kms of altitude (standard for heavy jets) you can glide more than 100kms to a safe airport, sometimes even more. Also, commercial airliners have to carry enough extra fuel for 45 minutes of flying in case anything happened, AND can't be farther away from an airport than 1 hour cruise speed. These are strict laws BTW, not guidelines.

For you that means that even if you ended up having no engines (it's not going to happen on a 2-engine jet, less on a 4-engine jet) you'd still land safely on an airport, where hot coffee and dinner would be waiting for you. NOT on the sea.
Hope that helps you out, even if just a little :laugh:


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Re: Water Travel [Re: TheDudeAbides]
    #5651487 - 05/19/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You really think you'd drown in a boat or plane accident? They're filled with flotation devices. I'd be more worried about hypothermia. The solution is to wear a wetsuit any time you travel. :wink:


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Re: Water Travel [Re: Ythan]
    #5655776 - 05/21/06 10:18 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This was a theoretical post - I set out to just look and see what submarine prices were because of my water phobia..

I was shocked that there isn't some kind of serious civilian submarine makers :/ I mean, it seems like the most fun and secure form of water travel. Sure, I suppose you could buy one from some company for 500,000$ but thats not feasible to anyone.


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