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Heating Element Failure in Incubation
    #5649932 - 05/19/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Now say I had just gone to my incubation chamber, expecting to find a few lovely casings ready to be patched, but instead find a broken heating element. Assuming it's been non-functional for over 9 hours, and the temperature has been 10-12 degrees Farenheit lower than normal incubation temps, should I still patch and incubate until favorable mycelium growth is seen, or should I just throw it in the fruiting stage by providing the other two factors - light and FAE? As of now mycelium is showing on only about 10-20% of the casing layer (in the valleys).


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Re: Heating Element Failure in Incubation [Re: spacebutler]
    #5650089 - 05/19/06 12:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i doubt very seriously that it triggered fruiting by the low temps.
like you surmised, it'll fruit when you throw it in the fc and it gets all three of its favorite pin developing conditions at once. well...im sure some strains would prove me wrong on this point, but you get the idea.
so yea, id just re-incubate, or patch and re-incubate...really up to you...the school of thought is always split on this issue.


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Re: Heating Element Failure in Incubation [Re: dysphoria]
    #5650105 - 05/19/06 12:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, I think I'm split on the other side.

If you are 10-20% colonized through your casing,
I would patch and put into the fruiting chamber now.
No reason at all to wait in my opinion.
You want your casing layer to act as a casing, right?

I would patch and introduce light and fae and misting.
I would follow hyphae's suggestions about pinsetting from this point on.


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Re: Heating Element Failure in Incubation [Re: monstermitch]
    #5650212 - 05/19/06 01:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, after reading Hyphae's article on pinning and taking your suggestions into consideration, I think it would be best to simply bust it into the fruiting stage. Am I right in thinking that letting the casing layer be colonized further than 30% is unnecessary and maybe harmful? And further than this (around 90%), it is considered "overlay" ?


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Re: Heating Element Failure in Incubation [Re: spacebutler]
    #5650332 - 05/19/06 01:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

correct on the first part, though not harmful.
and even if its over 90%, thats not overlay.
overlay is a dense mat of mycelial tissue that basically died due to overgrowth, or more likely, direct watering/overwatering.
a casing with 90% colonization of the casing will still fruit.
this is basically what a brf cake is doing, fruiting from 100% colonization.


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Re: Heating Element Failure in Incubation [Re: dysphoria]
    #5651141 - 05/19/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ahh yeah of course, thanks dysphoria. Does mycelium continue to colonize the substrate layer throughout the entire fruiting cycle? I assume it would slow down or even stop, so as to expend the majority of it's energy in producing fruits.

Also, what is the bare minimum amount of mycelium you want showing on the casing lyaer before you start it in the FC, in general? Or would it do well even if you put it in the FC while no mycelium was showing through the casing layer at all?


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