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GSxx83
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Comparing Mushrooms To MDMA
#5649696 - 05/19/06 10:50 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Obviously, they are EXTREMELY different and are not even in the same class.
But, i just finished having a discussion with an associate of mine, and i wondered how you people would compare the 2.
I have experienced MDMA once. It was very enjoyable, but the after effects were not pleasant (these were tested pills, so there was no other substances besides a small dosage of ephedra to harden the pill). First off, The crash made me upset because "the ride was over", then after a day of feelings slightly tired yet relaxed, i began to get depressed(nothing major, but a bad mood which lasted a few days). Following this, about a week later, i grew very ill, with a 103 degree fever(could be coincidence, but i felt terrible).
With my 1 mushrooms experience, besides the feeling of time gong by very slow the following day, i felt 100% happy and healthy. Almost as if no "drug" was taken at all. This is why i have come to the conclusion that natural is the way to go, i dont think i am a fan of synthetic "drugs".
What are your thoughts?
(i ask because im slightly tempted to try mdma again, but deep down i see no point and woul dmuch rather prepare and anticipate my next mushroom trip - which will hopefully be as spiritual and enlighting as the first trip)
PS- please be advised, i HIGHLY respect the mushroom and i do not look at it as your average substance. although mdma can be spiritual, by unlocking certain happiness and emotions (possibly re introducing a greater appreciation of life and our senses), it is definitly more of a "lets have fun" type of thing. While i beleive that although shrooms are very fun with the right people, in the end..we all take away something special from the psychodelic experience.
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MrFantasy
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Re: Comparing Mushrooms To MDMA [Re: GSxx83]
#5649735 - 05/19/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I agree with you. Mushrooms are far better and the next day as well. The after affect of X is rather bad and I usually work the next day so that doesn't help either. And as you said there really is no after affect from mushrooms or atleast nothing bad. Not to mention I hear that MDMA is not good for you I'm not really sure what happeneds but I know its not good for your body. As you were saying that it can make it you happy I have heard of doing it so much that it can reverse the happiness. I herd this from some body I know and the people that took it so much ended up killing themselves. This good be untrue but I can imagine that after so many days in a row that it could be very bad. Although you should know not to abuse a drug anyway and things like this wouldn't happen but some people just don't know how to do things right or handle themselves.
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kaniz
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Re: Comparing Mushrooms To MDMA [Re: GSxx83]
#5649751 - 05/19/06 11:07 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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MDMA is a great substance, but it does tend to take it's toll on the body. Its more apparent in winter months, but pretty much every time after I roll, I atleast will get a slight cold for a few days after. You tend to be up all night, dancing your ass off, and exhausting your body - lowers your immune system, and makes you more prone to cold/flue/etc.
MDMA however is an 'easy' drug to take, you are pretty much 9.8 times out of 10, garenteed to have a 'fun easy time', its pretty rare to have a 'bad time' with MDMA. The only time I've heard of people having a bad time on MDMA, is if they got a pill that was cut with too much speed and just end up having a super-rushy comeup and end up freaking out.
The 1st time my sister did E, she spent 8 hours curled up in the corner of the club waiting for it end thinking her heart was about to explode, rare that a situation like that happens, but it can.
Also, most MDMA rolls are pretty much always the same, eventually the 'magic' will be gone, but you pretty much know what your getting into every time you drop a pill.
With Mushrooms, you never really know what kind of trip you are going to get, its a bit of a crapshoot.
You may end up getting a really euphoric trip - lots of energy, minimal headfuck, you just feel puerly blissed out. I find that these trips tend to be the most 'rare' for me, but a good mushroom trip like this puts MDMA to shame any day. The euphoria/ectasy that you feel can be amazing, the energy levels can put you through the roof, music sounds the best it ever has, etc.
However, alot of the times you can also get a relly strong headfuck that can make it harder to deal with in public places. Or, they may do a number on your stomach and make you feel sick. I've also had a number of mushroom trips where I just felt lethargic the entire time - felt very sleepy, yawned alot, just wanted to curl up in a ball and lay down - I still enjoy those trips, but its far more difficult to be social/outgoing while in that state.
The thing I do like about mushrooms however, is the lack of a hangover/comedown. There has been times where I have done a trip early in the morning (like 10am), and been feeling fine/baseline by early/mid afternoon and able to be productive with my day and felt like I hadnt done any drugs earlier in the day.
Mushrooms also have the potential for 'bad trips', and they are not always easy to handle. Doing too much MDMA may just leave you feeling 100% blissed out on the couch not wanting to move, but having a Mushroom trip that is too intense to handle can be a terrifying expierence for some.
in the end, they are both very different, I like mush far more than MDMA however.
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Kingkole
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Re: Comparing Mushrooms To MDMA [Re: MrFantasy]
#5649769 - 05/19/06 11:17 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I prefer mushroom over MDMA as both a recreational drug and learning experience.
As well MDMA does not directly cause the trip, it causes the neurons in you brain to release massive amounts of the neurotransmitter serotonin into your brain. I just think that messing around with the level of neurotransmitter in your brain is not smart, as it could cause a whole bunch of lame shit to happen.
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Re: Comparing Mushrooms To MDMA [Re: Kingkole]
#5650609 - 05/19/06 03:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I know you already said it, but they're completely different substances. Psilocybin is psychedelic, MDMA is a euphoric amphetamine (though it does have a good potential for introspection, I would not really call it a psychedelic in any sort of typical sense of the word). I don't know that there are any useful comparisons to be drawn between them.
If the crash was the main reason that you didn't like MDMA, then it's probably worth getting some 5-HTP if you are going to do it again. Myself and my friends have never experienced this crash, but we always take some 5-HTP a few hours into it. Personally, I have more difficulty with mushrooms because they always make me queasy. It's hard to have a nice trip when you're nauseous the whole time (I'm going to be giving them another go sometime soon though, probably 1.5-2g cubes in lemon juice.
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Re: Comparing Mushrooms To MDMA [Re: Entropymancer]
#5651616 - 05/19/06 09:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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well its called a psychedlic because of its structure. its a phenethylamine.
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Re: Comparing Mushrooms To MDMA [Re: GSxx83]
#7569675 - 10/28/07 01:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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At small doses, like 1g dried, shrooms are a lot like ecstasy for me. Physically you get the same dilated eyes, giddy happy feelings, a lot of smiling, laughing. That rush that comes in waves waiting for the peak. But with shrooms you can take that to another level, eat a gram or two more and your into a whole new experience. Not to mention that your eating a natural substance used for thousands of years for personal and spiritual exploration. For a social gathering I'd Take the E. With close friends or by yourself, (or outside) take the shrooms.
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Phish20
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MDMA almost reminds me of the tripping buzz...but without the visual or mental aspects of Mushrooms. I have felt 10 times better on Mushrooms than I ever have on rolls or molly
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Ness1
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I just want to point out that there is absolutely no difference between synthetic and "natural" drugs that is significant enough to warrant separating the two. Try some LSD, you'll notice the same things you described about the day after shrooms with LSD. 4-Ho-DMT can be synthesized in a lab and will be virtually identical to the naturally produced 4-Ho-DMT in mushrooms.
Edit: Of course, if you're comfortable with natural and not synthetics (for whatever reason) then that's fine. Just wanted to throw that out there.
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Edited by Ness1 (10/28/07 02:43 PM)
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