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InvisiblelIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl
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What a strange drug this is (salvia)
    #5648967 - 05/19/06 02:41 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I hadn't used salvia in around 8 months. So I decided I would give it a go tonight, just for the hell of it.

Suddenly I'm transported to the the exact same place I was 8 months ago on my last trip, and I mean EXACTLY. I had completely forgotten what had happened. Extremely difficult to explain but heres at least an effort at an explanation.

It was like I was seeing my house, and it was built out of me, and the image of the house was created from vague childish ideas bordering on insanity.

And in the background I kept hearing a word.

UNDUNTELL

and then

UN7TELL (apparently this is a word in my vision)

Over and over and over again. And all I wanted to do was lie in my bed and curl up in the dark.

It was at this point that I said (out loud) 'It is the same.' Then I said (this is interesting) 'Don't ever do this again. Throw it out, throw it all away.' This was of course referring to my salvia stash.

The whole thing had a  borderline entity kind of feel to it. And, as I said, the vision picked up exactly where it left off 8 months ago. Weird!

The next obvious question is, should I throw it out? Or should I say 'fuck you' to my salvia psyche and UP the dose? Interesting question, serious answers please.

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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5648975 - 05/19/06 02:45 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Maybe you were 7 years old and someone told you not to tell about something? Like a brother or sister breaking something (perhaps a window in your house) and saying "Don't ('Dun') Tell!" Salvia has been known to relapse memories that are otherwise forgotten. I dunno', just a thought!

Salvia is an extremely intense herb. I smoked a bowl full of 35x in my bubbler once, and let me tell you, I have never experienced anything so intense in my entire life - and this is coming from someone who has reached a level 5 trip more than once on more than one psychedelic.


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    #5648978 - 05/19/06 02:47 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: Ashland]
    #5648981 - 05/19/06 02:49 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I agree it's very weird and intense. I really have no idea what UNDUNTELL or UN7TELL means.

Do you think I should heed the vision's advice and throw out my salvia? I'm not really sure if I should or not to be honest... :shrug:


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: ]
    #5648983 - 05/19/06 02:50 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i had the very same experience as you, i smoked it, then months later i had forgotten what the trip was about..its usually like a little story thought run threw my mind about certain things...well anyway i remember EVERYTHING i had thought about in my previous trip.

althow the last trip i had...i just barely broke threw and the only thing i could think about was a cop in a brown uniform yet saliva is completly legal? i have no clue why i was thinking about a dam cop. it really pisses me off actually the one legal thing i can do and them dam pigs have to spoil it to...its just insane


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5648999 - 05/19/06 02:56 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

What I recall from my salvia experience - well, from what I remember (I was 'blacked out' for about 5 minutes, no recollection of what happened) - is that I was being pulled in every direction, being sucked towards this tunnel at the "top right" of my vision, and having these strange white geometric shapes (like a chain of paper cut-out dolls, actually) surround my peripheral vision, all whilst some female entity seemed to be beckoning me in a rock (which turned into a triangular tunnel) that was on the ground. Oh, and I kept falling into garage doors (I did this an alley unsupervised.. DO NOT do this, it is very dangerous) as if they were the ground. Basically, I had no sense of gravity, and at a certain point my entire vision turned into a 1 dimensional (entirely flat, but beyond flat.. if you can grasp that) image, and depth was no longer present. I had to maneuver around with my eyes shut so that I didn't fall into something harmful.


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: ]
    #5649017 - 05/19/06 03:02 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Strange. I've smoked salvia several times, and never quite gotten to the point of which I described.

I think the thing is dose.. I smoked an entire, FAT bowl of 35x salvia (about a gram) in a bubbler in less than 40 seconds... so, go figure. At low doses I notice patterns (like my blinds) to wiggle around a lot, and a strange smell sensation (not the smell of the salvia, more long-lasting and intense) to overtake my nose. Though I've only felt the feeling of being pulled in every direction once, when I was broken through so immensely far.


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: ]
    #5649021 - 05/19/06 03:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

well see i think people wanting to try salvia need to start out with just standard leaves...im still on them. You can get a nice body buzz off them sometimes, and you can get alot of the other stuff for a good 10-15 mins.


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5649023 - 05/19/06 03:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think it's interesting that all of you are describing very different effects. Seems like this drug is not only strange, but strangely unique for each person that partakes.


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5649030 - 05/19/06 03:08 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah the very first time i took it all i felt was like i was floating and i couldn't stop laughing. After that all its been is mind fucks. ive only done it like 5 or 6 times thow. If there's been any body buzz since then its prob due to it messing with my mind thinking someones massaging my head or whatever.


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5649036 - 05/19/06 03:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've done it a few too many times maybe... too many to count.

This is really hard, but maybe I should throw it away, I mean never take salvia ever again. I'm going to sleep on it.

It seems like that was the message I got from the vision...


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5649066 - 05/19/06 03:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

well salvia tends to bring out your fears, maybe you fear your taking to much and pushing the limits. This may or may not be true, but the best bet would be to at least slow it down some.

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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5649075 - 05/19/06 03:42 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think that your ego is afraid of giving up control to it. The choice is yours, but I don't think Salvia is pushing you away.


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: Ashland]
    #5649091 - 05/19/06 03:55 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Ashland said:
What I recall from my salvia experience - well, from what I remember (I was 'blacked out' for about 5 minutes, no recollection of what happened) - is that I was being pulled in every direction, being sucked towards this tunnel at the "top right" of my vision, and having these strange white geometric shapes (like a chain of paper cut-out dolls, actually) surround my peripheral vision, all whilst some female entity seemed to be beckoning me in a rock (which turned into a triangular tunnel) that was on the ground. Oh, and I kept falling into garage doors (I did this an alley unsupervised.. DO NOT do this, it is very dangerous) as if they were the ground. Basically, I had no sense of gravity, and at a certain point my entire vision turned into a 1 dimensional (entirely flat, but beyond flat.. if you can grasp that) image, and depth was no longer present. I had to maneuver around with my eyes shut so that I didn't fall into something harmful.




Interesting, I too blacked out for a good portion of my salvia trip. During this time my friends said I sweated, got red, and my face drooped down like I was a retard. I turned to my one friend and started playing the piano on his arm. At some point I came too, I was stairing diagnolly at one side of the room at a couch, I had no idea who where or what I was, and I had this feeling of utter confusion, an intense, uncomfortable confusion about what I was looking at. It was like a frusteration, like I somehow didn't understand what I was seeing, like I was just a nothing entity and put right there looking at that couch and was expected to make sense of it after an eternity of not being. After some time I got back to normal and just felt very uncomfortable and had a strange body high until I was completely normal.
What a fucking mind-blower.


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5649148 - 05/19/06 05:12 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Maybe some kind of spiritual entity was messing with you. It may have not wanted you to be able to see it or the density of existence it is in.. "don't tell".. it wasn't for you, so "throw it away"-"never do this again"... who knows.


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5649315 - 05/19/06 08:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Up the dose dude

When you smoke it next time stand up and say out loud

"
Who ever is out there you can stick a giant dildo up your anus.
As for salvia, i am gonna smoke it and im gonna enjoy it.
Take me to a place i never been before"

Say that and then smoke up


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: Jalruza]
    #5649575 - 05/19/06 10:09 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"throw it out"
I bet you have no idea what was being discussed with
you and you and you when this utterance was made.
I would do nothing based upon an unreferenced statement
purportedly form an oracle.
the "it" could be some concern you had at the moment
as in
throw your fear out
or throw your unnecessary tension out...


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5649630 - 05/19/06 10:27 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Try it somewhere else other than the place that you were doing it, if you feel you envoked an entity, me personnelly I don't like that feeling unless the entity is cool that is


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: Jalruza]
    #5650758 - 05/19/06 03:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Ewok said:
Up the dose dude

When you smoke it next time stand up and say out loud

"
Who ever is out there you can stick a giant dildo up your anus.
As for salvia, i am gonna smoke it and im gonna enjoy it.
Take me to a place i never been before"

Say that and then smoke up



Yeah, that's what I think I'm going to do.

I don't really remember why I said "throw it out". I think it was my way of making sure I remember those words... since a lot of what happens in sally land stays in sally land.

PS - Way to fuck up the thread format, whoever did that.


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5650801 - 05/19/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

how do you hear the "word" un7tell?


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: Taskenti]
    #5650859 - 05/19/06 04:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I was hearing it as UN-SEVEN-TELL, but for some reason I remember there is a 7 in the word. :shrug:


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5654112 - 05/20/06 06:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I recently bought a kilo of salvia, because I don't want to harvest my plant for at least five years. It is an amazing teacher. My first time was most memorable, just one hit of 10x. I was alone (stupid), and in the woods (even stupider, it definitely potentiates it). My soul was sucked out of my body and a benevolent spirit was speaking to me. This is NOT a drug, it is a teacher, if you approach it like a drug it will not give you the full effect, I have noticed this many times in my circle of friends. Perhaps if you are being told to throw it out (repeatedly) you should analyze how you approach this plant... just my opinion.


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5654131 - 05/20/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

adjust said:
Quote:

Ewok said:
Up the dose dude

When you smoke it next time stand up and say out loud

"
Who ever is out there you can stick a giant dildo up your anus.
As for salvia, i am gonna smoke it and im gonna enjoy it.
Take me to a place i never been before"

Say that and then smoke up



Yeah, that's what I think I'm going to do.

I don't really remember why I said "throw it out". I think it was my way of making sure I remember those words... since a lot of what happens in sally land stays in sally land.

PS - Way to fuck up the thread format, whoever did that.




I would never EVER follow that advise


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) *DELETED* [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5654198 - 05/20/06 06:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: ngnyus]
    #5654244 - 05/20/06 07:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You tell Salvia to stick a dildo up his ass? Then act all enlightened!


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    #5654261 - 05/20/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: ngnyus]
    #5654287 - 05/20/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"When you smoke it next time stand up and say out loud

"
Who ever is out there you can stick a giant dildo up your anus."


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5654303 - 05/20/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The coolest thing about Saliva's world is that the only entity that exists there is Salvia. Unless he wants to show you another entity, in which case, they will be there as well. I wouldn't tell any of them to stick anything up their ass!


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5654643 - 05/20/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Looks like you got me confused with someone else, and I was confused as to whose advice you would never follow.
P.S. Sorry I screwed up the thread


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5654792 - 05/20/06 10:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I wouldn't tell any of them to stick anything up their ass!




what if sally told you to?


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5654806 - 05/20/06 10:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I decided not to throw it out, but to wait on it a few weeks. Then in a different setting I'll try it again and see what happens.


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5657528 - 05/21/06 06:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5659622 - 05/22/06 10:20 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I had some gnarly extact i got from bouncingb and ignorantly loaded a big bowl of it, hit the shit out it alone in my computer room...
FLASH
(name = my real name)
Im being sucked into a portal under my desk (a corner desk mind you, im holding on to my desk top, while my whole body is physcially being pulled into this portal (my feet are sucked through what, in reality, would be the location of my wall) that had these 2 elveish creatures calling me by name, "naaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmeee" i thought i was being pulled through a portal in cave of sorts, cause thats what it looked like as i looked into it. Then i slowly started being able to pull myself out, and out from under my desk, realzed somehing was wrong but i didnt know how wrong yet. I was jerked back into my wall, then i dissolved INTO the wall and to another place where i was coming up through the floor of this room with these windows on the wall, and other objects also coming up through the floor. I remember thinking how severely fucked i was, how out of all the things ive done before, this was the most trouble ive been in, and i cant go back to my normal life. I remember thinking how "even my parents cant save me now".

I then came out of the wall, stumbled to the other room, layed on the couch for 20 min litterly SHOCKED AND STARTLED waiting for the body fry to wear off... then i loaded a HUGE bowl and watched Lord Of War... had to do somehting to try to forget waht just happend.

Since then, i "got" about 30-35 people... the salvia i had is stronger then ANY salvia ANYONE i know (even experienced salvia heads) has done (standard 10x from bouncingb). I would tell them "Its salvia, your going to trip harder then you ever have in your life, and its going to be disorrienting and scary. You may be in another reality" and they dont believe me, laugh, hit it, then get the "scared animal" look as they stumble around, and eventually come back to tell tales of seperate realites and portals, but no one "broke through" to the other side except 1 guy who after repeat use went on a bus with the salvia goddess but he doesnt remember where it went.

FUCK salvia. I havnt done it since that one big trip. I want to use it one day and be able to harness it, but for now, its way too scary.

Some say start on foilage, i have that, its a good idea, but for now, im turned off from salvia for a loong while.

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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5659653 - 05/22/06 10:44 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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EquilibriuM said:
You tell Salvia to stick a dildo up his ass? Then act all enlightened!




No not Salvia, how do you know that some gnomes from 37th dimension of black hole vortexes arent messing with him. Tell THEM to stick you know what you know where.


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And It's taking us fast to a brand new free dimension
Too cool to mention well that's the intention
But some of us too dame blind to see
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Jesus is the King Volume II
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I'm talking to aliens!
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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: Jalruza]
    #5659854 - 05/22/06 11:45 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Jalruza said:
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EquilibriuM said:
You tell Salvia to stick a dildo up his ass? Then act all enlightened!




No not Salvia, how do you know that some gnomes from 37th dimension of black hole vortexes arent messing with him. Tell THEM to stick you know what you know where.




I know that Salvia has total control over that position of the assemblage point. Only other beings that are there are those that Salvia has allowed entrance.


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5659893 - 05/22/06 12:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

try an oral dose if you'd like to be more gently ushered down salvia's corridors.

do you think the mushroom experience would be so popular if it only lasted 5 minutes? i'm guessing not. part of its sway is that it lasts long enough for you to become deeply embedded within the experience rather than just thrown into the abyss hardly long enough for you to catch your own breath.

a quid of 5x-10x or a tincture would be well worth your time IMO, and agreeable with the traditions of the folks in oaxaca.. whom don't get brought up enough in these discussions.


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Re: What a strange drug this is (salvia) [Re: SDP]
    #5659949 - 05/22/06 12:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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SDP said:


FUCK salvia. I havnt done it since that one big trip. I want to use it one day and be able to harness it, but for now, its way too scary.



-SDP :stoned:



salvia is not supposed to be harnessed and couldn't be harnessed if you tried. it's here to relate to the human experience and maybe teach a couple lessons along the way.. but for the most part it's here to enjoy YOU. the human family's relationship with this plant doesn't extend very far into the past so these initial stages are wild. tread gently and with at least a little respect, if not hospitality.  :grin:

after all, you are the one inviting it in. so who's harnessing who?


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