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Mycological Career?
    #5648213 - 05/18/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ever since I started this amazing hobby, I have become infatuated with everything mycological. I would LOVE to legally make money whilst enjoying this science. What kind of work IS there in the world of mycology?

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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: FungusMan]
    #5648412 - 05/18/06 11:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

For the small time entrepreneur, here is a link from the National Sustainable Agriculture Information Service that goes over professional cultivation and marketing for mushroom.

http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/mushroom.html


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: beyondsisxth]
    #5648808 - 05/19/06 01:28 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You can grow mushrooms, be a consultant for mushroom growers, get a PhD and do your own research, or work in a mycology lab for someone else. I'm sure that there are plenty of other ways to make legal money at it.

A couple of years ago I read about a program that someone had to teach the practical and business aspects or growing and preparing extracts from medicinal mushrooms. It seemed like a pretty cool and sophisticated program. I think the main idea was that there are a ton of very high dollar products you can get out of medicinal mushrooms. They're used for research and treatments for various illnesses. The idea was to make a high-grade finished product by growing various mushrooms and using column chromatography to separate the extracts into different fractions. It seemed like a very good program. I can't seem to remember where I came across it. Maybe it was from the FMRC, but I'm not sure. Maybe someone can help?


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: fastfred]
    #5659668 - 05/22/06 10:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, medicinal sciences would be the way to go. I'm also considering changing majors. Probably won't though, but it's still a fine hobby. Still, taking a year off to consider my options.

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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: Edgekrusher]
    #5660149 - 05/22/06 01:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yea, I took a few years solo to work on my own-but I am apprenticing myself to becoming a mycologist. Hoping to attend school in a few years and one day maybe a PhD


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: FungusMan]
    #5660990 - 05/22/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Having a large mushroom farm is actually quite a labor intensive business venture.

Ever see that show 'dirty jobs'? they did one on a button mushroom farm. pretty neat.


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: Schwip]
    #5662979 - 05/23/06 03:53 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

you know, i also have been thinking about making cash legally with this great hobby for quite some time now.

the only problem is, the hobby i fun, but will the work be fun once its everyday business ?

i can imagine that once your living is based on mycological work, itll soon just be
as any other job, routinous, boring, all the same, everyday. its the small line
between the hobby and the job that actually carries the fascination and i think
that it would cease to fascinate pretty soon.


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: ohmatic]
    #5663291 - 05/23/06 08:24 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

A large mushroom farm is a tremendous amount of work. You can't possibly run one single handed, because selling mushrooms wholesale for $2/pound means you need to have several truckloads leaving your premises every day. Who wants to deal with employees not showing up for work, or the air conditioning system going out just as the shiitakes are pinning, or to go to all the work to get an operation going just to find out they can import mushrooms from China for cheaper than you can grow them. . .Personally, I'll just keep my day job and stick to hobby growing. lol
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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5663652 - 05/23/06 10:43 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

There are tons of mycological careers other than being a commercial grower. Thats just the first, and seemingly only, idea that pops through most heads.

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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: Edgekrusher]
    #5663920 - 05/23/06 11:38 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Seriously-look at the scientific fields opposed to the commercial ones. Sitting in a lab all day long crossing mushrooms and experimenting (aka having fun?) And on the side growing psilocybin mushrooms -

..uh count me in?


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: toole]
    #5664309 - 05/23/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Are there any schools (universities) that don't require calculus and such for their biology program/mycology majors? Because calculus is the main thing standing in my way of pursuing this. At this point, I'm going to go into agriculture and see if I can find a backdoor in, if not I'll stick to botany as a profession and mycology as a hobby.

Also, despite the hardwork and annoyances, I'd love to work at or run a mushroom farm. I'd never get tired of it.


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: demiu5]
    #5664699 - 05/23/06 02:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

There is always the fmrc's mail order phd in mycology. But seriously, what's wrong with calculus? Surely if you're able to get through genetics you can get through calculus....


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: mycofile]
    #5664749 - 05/23/06 02:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Haven't taken genetics yet and probably won't since I'm not going into Biology. I hate genetics and microbiology. The cellular level is less interesting to me as opposed to working with live plants/fungi, but I do have a small interest in it.


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: demiu5]
    #5665213 - 05/23/06 03:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Some schools allow a statistical math course opposed to a calc class, but I feel you have not considered a few important items.

1. No one gets an undergrad degree in mycology. They usually do botany or biology then go to PhD programs for mycology.

2. Even if you don't have to take calc, you have to take organic chem. That is much more of a killer than calc.

3. You also have to take physics. If you can't handle calc, good luck with physics.

4. As a part of item 1, to go to graduate school for mycology, the school is probably going to want to see calc, even if it wasn't a req. for you undergrad.

As a side note, maybe you should consider starting a small business producing eatables for local restaurants and markets. This seems like much more of the niche you are seeking.


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: mycogirl]
    #5665498 - 05/23/06 04:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

toole, most deff the thing im shooting for. i love the idea of sitting in a lab and crossing shrooms and plants and experimenting with genetics
im right there with you toole
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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: demiu5]
    #5665704 - 05/23/06 05:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Calculus is 90% hype, you can do anything you put your mind to. I almost quit working towards my dream job because of calculus and physics, but instead buckled down and pulled it off with flying colors--and so can you.

As far as making money with this hobby goes, I've contemplated the same thing until really considering PC'ing and making spawn bags and all day, laying endless tubs of compost, and doing whatever it takes to grow commercial shrooms...but it just doesn't sound like it's worth the switch from a normal job. It's something to get you through the day as a hobby, but seems to me that it would not be so enjoyable 24/7. Who knows though, a small percentage of business owners are doing what they truly love, and that's definitely the place to be. Maybe it's possible to find that kind of happiness with this hobby turned business. Let me know if it is that good, because I'm there.

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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: Holydiver]
    #5667560 - 05/24/06 03:00 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The type of career I had in mind was not in running my own business in cultivation. I just want to know what choices I would/could make after spending outrageous sums of cash for school. What I mean is, is there a demand for mycologists? Is it economically a good carrer tree?

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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: FungusMan]
    #5668842 - 05/24/06 01:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Nothing in the sciences will be a top "economically' good carreer tree"

Find what you love-then learn how to make money from it.

If you like to sit in a lab do it.

If you like to cultivate crops of mushrooms do that.

Pretty much any activity that you can give a name can be profitable-just depends how much you want to work.


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: ohmatic]
    #5669675 - 05/24/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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its the small line between the hobby and the job that actually carries the fascination and i think that it would cease to fascinate pretty soon.




There is still the excitement and fascination of growing and maintaining your own sucessful business that cannot be contrived from a typical wage slave job.

I think the biggest killer would be failure to innovate.
Once successful techniques are in place the fascination comes from experimenting with possibilities in efficiency, labor-saving and yield enhancements. With fungus there are innumerable paths to fruit.

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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: debianlinux]
    #5669902 - 05/24/06 07:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Actually, I like creating life, or at least giving life the ability to be created...that's why I want to do it; therefore, if not mycology, botany is fine with me.

I also agree with

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Once successful techniques are in place the fascination comes from experimenting with possibilities in efficiency, labor-saving and yield enhancements.




That's the science edge I enjoy.

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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: FungusMan]
    #5671181 - 05/25/06 12:58 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Stay in school, and study, study, study.
Research is where the money is.

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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: deanofmean]
    #5674364 - 05/25/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

When a hobby turns into your career, it then becomes work. Sometimes the thing you loved to do becomes a chore, and it loses it's special appeal. I've been down that road. Hobbies and careers are very different and have very different demands.

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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: indianprincess]
    #5674384 - 05/25/06 07:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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When a hobby turns into your career, it then becomes work. Sometimes the thing you loved to do becomes a chore, and it loses it's special appeal. I've been down that road. Hobbies and careers are very different and have very different demands.




Lmao, just because that is what happened in your hypothetical or (real?) scenario-doesn't mean anything for the "X" other users.


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: toole]
    #5674495 - 05/25/06 08:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Twice I have tried to turn a hobby into a career and both times it ended with me disliking something that a had previously enjoyed immensely. IME

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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: indianprincess]
    #5674552 - 05/25/06 08:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

But that is just you is all I'm saying.

I know exactly what you mean, it's happened to many.

I'm just getting at-let 'that' person decide to do what and when.


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: deanofmean]
    #5685634 - 05/29/06 04:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Stay in school, and study, study, study.
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Those color coded action words scream bio lecture power point...

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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: mycogirl]
    #5720228 - 06/06/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

pay shroomery and become a sponsor... make kits, ready to inoculate jars, buy a bunch of equip at wholesale and sell it individually at retail, pretend that you get your spores from a country where it is legal, and steal everybody's ideas like mycoshack (by the way what happened to them, hippiechick must have killed them lol)

am I correct???

personally i love growing psycadelic shrooms that make people trip balls... its actually the most successful thing I have done in my life, i guess I found my niche
my motivation is to grow more efficiently and stronger, more potent shrooms that help people encounter a different reality, help them find themselves...

I love my job!

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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: demiu5]
    #5729444 - 06/09/06 02:26 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Demlus, you sound just lke me. I'm starting a second B.A. in the fall for horticulture, something you may want to consider if you want to go the plant route, as opposed to botany. I'm keeping mycology, or plant pathology, as many universities call their programs, in mind however. Either caring for plants or fungi in a scientific/research position would be a heavenly life. You should consider looking at a couple of interesting programs I found while researching my own future.

Penn State
Penn State's Mushroom Spawn Lab
Washington State University
Oregon State

Also, check out Peterson's plant pathology undergrad/graduate program searcher:
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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: Wowbobwow12]
    #5729853 - 06/09/06 06:35 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'll look at those this afternoon after work. Thanks.


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: toole]
    #5769059 - 06/19/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Seriously-look at the scientific fields opposed to the commercial ones. Sitting in a lab all day long crossing mushrooms and experimenting (aka having fun?) And on the side growing psilocybin mushrooms -

..uh count me in?




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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: 2FiNiTe]
    #5771104 - 06/20/06 01:44 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've spoken to too many experienced humans(old farts (50+) :smile: about making a hobby into a business.

Never spoken with one yet that said they enjoyed it after a while. Some of them were successful with it in a business sense. But most basically said the same thing. They lost enjoyment for their favorite hobby.


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: cappa]
    #5788450 - 06/25/06 02:12 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I worked at a business that was doing a hobby, for a guy who started it as a hobby. He loved it, I loved it. It depends on how u do it though. Generally speaking if the job is fun, it doesn't pay well (there are exceptions) So the first thing you have to do is relize your probly gonna have to take a paycut.

Next make sure your doing it for the right reasons. If your looking todo it because you want to enjoy working...your gonna hate it. This is where you end up like all these other posts say, after awhile its no longer fun its just work.

The key is todo it for acomplishment. The work we did was hot, sweaty, HARD work. It sucked, it sucked bad. The reason I loved it was at the end of the day, I could look at something I had made with my own hands. I could see how much better I'd become then when I started. I had a sense of acomplishment.

Basically it boils down to, turning a hobby into a job is not the same as turning a passion into a job.

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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: CoolMojo]
    #5789000 - 06/25/06 09:47 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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The reason I loved it was at the end of the day, I could look at something I had made with my own hands. I could see how much better I'd become then when I started. I had a sense of acomplishment.





thats the reason i left college. i was a chemistry major. my entire life, though, i really enjoyed working on my and friends guitars and other stringed instrument. i decided to take some time off and work on that craft. 2 years later i was working in the gibson custom shop building instruments for some of the best musicians in the world. it was awesome to find out that after years of thinking that i wanted some sort of mental job, i wound up doing something with my hands. nothing feels better than starting with blank materials and having a finished product at the end of the day, whether it be a guitar or a computer program or website or whatever.


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: SenselessRebel]
    #5803593 - 06/29/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

my uncle paul stamets started his career writing books and studying mycology. but now he grows "all" kinds of mushrooms and sells them to resturaunts etc.

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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: oneslug]
    #5810344 - 07/01/06 05:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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my uncle paul stamets started his career writing books and studying mycology. but now he grows "all" kinds of mushrooms and sells them to resturaunts etc.




Doubtful.

But if that man is your uncle..I'd keep my ears clean when he speaks.


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: toole]
    #5812128 - 07/02/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Actually, he started his career hunting, tripping, and growing cubes to sell to college students. The writing part came ten years later.
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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5812351 - 07/02/06 12:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hahaha


Did you all know my aunt is Hillary Clinton? :P

She started off blowing away the competition and eating lots of mushrooms.


Vote Hillary.


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: toole]
    #5813590 - 07/02/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

A BS in biology is pretty easy. Dont sweat it. Organic is the only thing that gets irtritating, but as long as you stay on top of it definately doable. Im about to get my BS in Bio. Then grad school for either evolutionary bio, sociobio or microbiology.

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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: davesj1]
    #5813677 - 07/02/06 09:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That's awesome Dave.

I wish I persued traditional college right out of high school, I may return and put my hands towards biology.

Evolutionary Biology, now that sounds like some fun.


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: toole]
    #5813695 - 07/02/06 09:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yes it deos. Unfortunately there isnt that much profit in it. Thats why im keeping micro open as an option.

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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: davesj1]
    #5813701 - 07/02/06 09:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Sadly, the world's spendings on the sciences are far too low :frown: Creating a high demand for scientists at low pay.

They know their brains are gold and their knowledge is pure milk for this pussy of a world !

Good Luck to you wherever you go.


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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: toole]
    #5819654 - 07/04/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

There's actually a tremendous amount of money that can made in farming mushrooms, but as said the work load is heavy. I know 2 guys in Pennsylania that are living rather nice lives. I have the option of going to work for either of them, but Lazlo in Pennsylvania is an oxymoron. lol. Besides, i've got enough stuff to keep me busy.

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    #6910840 - 05/13/07 06:59 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

i was at the mans wedding, and recieved christmas grow boxes. hes not my parents sibling but somehow the words uncle and blood relations are very
cognate terms.

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Re: Mycological Career? [Re: FungusMan]
    #6928528 - 05/17/07 03:55 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Mycology is my only source of income :smile:

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