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BiG_StroOnZ


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2C-I, 2C-C ?
#5647870 - 05/18/06 09:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Planning on trying this. Did some erowid research and everything seems pretty stable. In terms of overall saftey, however anyone know of any dangers if so?
Long term affects, if any? I`m gettin probably only 100MG of each, and taking in combination (10mg of 2C-I and 10-20mg of 2C-C). And not often, after I do it once maybe about a month later I`ll do it again. It will probably be mixed with something else (maybe MDMA, or mushies)the second time around.
Either or, just give me your in-sight on either 2C-I or 2C-C if you have taken... or seen (but be specific).
Thanx.
Edited by BiG_StroOnZ (05/18/06 09:39 PM)
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camelsmoker
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if you never taken rcs before i recomend doin them seperately...mdma is great to add to either but i dont recomend two peas at the same time..i think one would take over the other...from what i understand 2cc is more psychadelic and would probably take over the 2ci..
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kaniz
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a: No dosage advice is allowed for these b: As camelsmoker above suggested - take them both seperatly first c: Buy a proper digital scale that can weigh out miligrams
Also, be careful with the 2CI, I've read a number of reports of people who have had some rather nasty HPPD triggered by it.
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Koala Koolio
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Re: 2C-I, 2C-C ? [Re: kaniz]
#5650579 - 05/19/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Good advise. I just posted an HPPD rant in another thread. And, now I've remembered what my last such rant on these forums was. It was about 2C-I. A member claimed to have HPPD, and it certainly seemed to be true, after just one usage. This should cause the community to wonder just what it is about the iodine variation that appears to be *so* much more likely to cause HPPD than any of the other 2C compounds. Instead, most who posted seemed upset that a "safe" drug was insulted (for lack of a better word) by a forum troll.
In any case, read and choose what's best for you. And naturally keep in mind the fact that what you experience could be totally different. One could suggest that the 'norm' is 2C-I being visual yet shallow, with 2C-C being calmer (requiring a significantly higher and less predictable dosage for some) but more meaningful.
But I know a guy who gets the emotional ride of his life from 2C-I. Ups, downs, anything but shallow. Meanwhile, 2C-E (I should mention that multiple sources were tested, and it was not a mislabeling. The dosages would normally indicate, but he usually is a bit of a hard head.) gave him nothing but cheap effects, while the majority seem to report it as being deep, and having the potential for turning dark, etc.
Be prepared for anything from either.
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BiG_StroOnZ


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So, technically were not suppose to be talking about dosages. But for my saftey, what would be an estimated safe number in MG for each seperatley (2C-I,2C-C).
I`m going to try them both seperatley, see how my body reacts to each. However, I really don't even want to take the "recommended" dosage as I'd feel more comfortable seeing what its possibilites are for me in lower dosages.
After that however, I really feel combining both in small amounts is the best way to do RE's (just finding out what is safe and what isn't takes someone to be a lab rat). What I have read though, everyone pretty much says it was really a stable, almost sirprisingly in a sense. One guy on Erowid described it as perfect; no nausea, no anxiety, straight foward and blissful trip.
The only thing that worries me about these, are these WORST and/or BETTER than taking per say acid...but remember I`m sticking to low dosages of the RC's.
Thanx
Edited by BiG_StroOnZ (05/19/06 04:30 PM)
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We cant give you a "safe dose". I have however took 60mg of 2c-I before
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I tried this combo once about 2 years ago after reading a lot about it.... Actually it is the only combo I have tried - back in my more carefree/stupid days.... 
As I remember right, "they" termed this combo as "HALO"....(?)
It was unique experience from taking each one separately.... 2C-I was somewhat "blissful" when taken alone, and it isn't really like that when mixed with 2C-C....
I think my experience was with the low side of your initial posted numbers, and the 2C-C was taken 1.5 to 2 hours AFTER the 2C-I in separate gel-caps....
I remember it making my nose stuffy for some reason.... And with the visuals, they were very "sparkly".... I remember closing my eyes and imagining that my whole physical body was a collection of millions of points of light in a 3D plot.... I could make all the points brighter or dimmer.... THEN, I noticed that I could pick out a single point out of the millions, and make it bright.... When I did this, I could feel that exact 3D plotted point in my body with clarity....
It was a pretty interesting/WICKED effect that I will never forget.... 
I am not recommending that you do it, as your mileage may vary.... Read all of the disclaimers and warnings and such, have an ACCURATE scale and know how to use it, and be careful.... 
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How the hell does a bold safety change the rules?
Do you not think they had that in mind? It's the most obvious reason for asking, and the reason the rule exists. We aren't you. We can't give you an estimate of what is safe for your own body.
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I don't think I was breaking any rules, was I....? 
It was something I tried a long time ago, I am not really ever planning on doing it again.... 
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kaniz
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The Koala wasnt refering to you, he was refering to BiG_StroOnZ, who tried to get around the rules of asking about dosage advice by saying 'well, what would be safe for me then?' -- which is pretty much the exact same thing.
Now, this next part isnt directed at you either, but a bit of a clarifaction of why the 'no dose' rules, but why we can give it for Mush and even LSD.
- With Mushrooms and LSD, its pretty much impossible to eat a dose that will be fatal. With mushrooms, you simply cant fit enough plant material in your body to reach the LD50. And, with LSD - its been proven that you can take like, 1000x a normal recreational dose and not come to any physical harm from direct effects of the substance.
However, with other drugs. Such as RCs, benzos, opiates, etc - those do have very dangerous and real risks with taking too much. For RCs - there simply isnt enough known about them to know what a 'safe dose' is, or what the maximum safe dose is. People seem to have different response curves, and what can be an OK dose for 1 person, may be a OD for someone else. With things like Benzos, opiates and other pharms - again, there is a health risk to ODing on them, and many people have a tollerance built up, so while X dose may be perfectly safe for one person, it could be an OD for someone else.
For many substances, you can check over at Erowid which can give you some pretty solid advice. However, when using RCs, especially for the first time - it is a wise idea to start off at a low/threshold dose to see how YOU respond to it. While generally speaking X dose 'may' be the common dose, who knows - you could be one of the few that are really sensative to it, and that dose could be too strong or lead to problems.
Then, when mixing two RCs that you have never mixed before : start at a threshold dose of each one first, see how it goes, then work your way up from there.
Not every drug is 100% perfectly safe to put into your system, and many of them do carry potential risks along with them -- is frying your brain or ending up with HPPD that requires medical attention really worth a few hours of fun?
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PhanTomCat
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Re: 2C-I, 2C-C ? [Re: kaniz]
#5652854 - 05/20/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
kaniz said: The Koala wasnt refering to you, he was refering to BiG_StroOnZ, who tried to get around the rules of asking about dosage advice by saying 'well, what would be safe for me then?'
Aaaahhh, that makes more sense, a "reply" function gone wrong.... I had missed BiG's second post - musta~ been while I was writing up my post....

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i think the drugs we should be giving dosage advice about are the ones that are lethal instead of the ones that are not lethal.
someone coming on here planning to dose 2c-i, can't get valid dosing info, so he decides to dose his whole .1 of 2c-i instead of .01, when we could have just said 10 mg is a good starting dose.
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