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Sporetacus
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Which of the following was the worst role model?
#5646625 - 05/18/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Which of the following figures did the most damage as a role model by his lifestyle?
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Alan Watts
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Tim Leary
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John C. Lilly
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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: Sporetacus]
#5646641 - 05/18/06 03:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I talk to Leary all the time.
He has helped me solve many genetic problems.
The problem with Leary is that he figured out how to change his own genetics. He fell in love with mutation, but he was unable to do it correctly. Thats why he got cancer.
also, he was a fuckin lizard. big time.
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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5646782 - 05/18/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I can't see how Leary's efforts did any negative 'damage'.
If we're speaking in terms of who affected societal norms the most, I'd say Leary without a doubt.
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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: Sporetacus]
#5646941 - 05/18/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sporetacus said: Which of the following figures did the most damage as a role model by his lifestyle?
None of them, I think it is Redgreenvines.
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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: Icelander]
#5646946 - 05/18/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are you on any medication for your Dickinson's, er Parkinson's disease?
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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: Sporetacus]
#5646950 - 05/18/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Seriously, Imagine how Red must live. That would destroy so many hopeful wannabes.
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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: Sporetacus]
#5646971 - 05/18/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I said Leary. Though he helped to spread LSD, his efforts to change society were largely responsible for the massive prohibition on psychedelics. I think his intentions were good, but he tried to effect change on an enormous level by getting people to join a counter culture. IMO, I would want a role model who encouraged individualism and helped people get in touch with their true natures, not simply disillusion them from the government and the societal herd.
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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: dblaney]
#5646976 - 05/18/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Will you be our new role model?
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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: Sporetacus]
#5646996 - 05/18/06 04:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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As a child I never really had a role model. I'm very glad for this, because it allowed me to tred my own path, figure things out for myself. The whole idea of modelling someone's behavior/attitude/life is absurd (with the few exceptional cases such as Zen master/disciple), as it completely distracts you from your self and detracts from your own potential.
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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: dblaney]
#5646999 - 05/18/06 04:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The guy who taught me how to make a joint was my "roll" model.
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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: Sporetacus]
#5647003 - 05/18/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: Sporetacus]
#5647007 - 05/18/06 04:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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OH THE HUMANITY!

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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: dblaney]
#5647012 - 05/18/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are you saying that the Hindenburg was a giant blunt?
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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: Sporetacus]
#5647020 - 05/18/06 04:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why, yes! That is exactly what I'm saying, how'd you know??
Man, if it really was a giant blunt, I would find a way to move backwards in the space-time continuum just so I could stand on that field and be in range of the smoke.

Mmm, puff puff puff puff puff puff puff puff, pass.
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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: dblaney]
#5647021 - 05/18/06 04:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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dblaney said: I said Leary. Though he helped to spread LSD, his efforts to change society were largely responsible for the massive prohibition on psychedelics. I think his intentions were good, but he tried to effect change on an enormous level by getting people to join a counter culture. IMO, I would want a role model who encouraged individualism and helped people get in touch with their true natures, not simply disillusion them from the government and the societal herd.
It was worth the shot. Nobody else was doing much to wake the average guy from total slumber.
Leary was one of my favorites. (I didn't vote for any of them because I'm not a registered voter) I think we are here at this site because of folk like Leary. He did try and get people in touch with their "true" natures. It's not his fault if people are a bunch of slackers. Much more so than any religious leaders which includes things like Buddhism, and the New agers.
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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: Icelander]
#5647028 - 05/18/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Indeed. If I was in his situation though, I think I would have gone about it differently. What's done is done though. Things may have turned out much worse if Leary never came around.
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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: Sporetacus]
#5647053 - 05/18/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would say Swami. What kind of life is it to go around criticizing others, trying to be the center of attention, and then whining continuously when he himself came under scrutiny? Whatever happened to that guy, anyway?
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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: Silversoul]
#5647078 - 05/18/06 05:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: Silversoul]
#5647081 - 05/18/06 05:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Kriyananda?
Satchidananda?
Muktananda?
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Re: Which of the following was the worst role model? [Re: dblaney]
#5647113 - 05/18/06 05:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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dblaney said: Indeed. If I was in his situation though, I think I would have gone about it differently. What's done is done though. Things may have turned out much worse if Leary never came around.
That's just it. You don't have what it takes (guess) to be in his situation. He created that situation with his personal power. And for you and me it's much different.
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