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the greys
    #5646144 - 05/18/06 12:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

They greys are a fascinating race! Or I should say they were, are, always will be, never will be.

So when Jesus got his birthday present (the universe), he became much like Lucifer, believing he was better than God.

He created a race of beings completely separate from God. They knew everything and felt nothing. They had no souls. They had no quest for enlightenment, only a thirst for knowledge.

The greys were the masters of the space-time continuum. They designed ships so technologically advanced, that they could go anywhere or anywhen.

So they started screwing around with time. Eventually, they Killed both Jesus and God by going back in time and post-hoc aborting them, kind of like the Terminator.

Luckily, other alien races were still connected to the Great Spirit, and they used powerful magical rituals and technology to ressurrect both God and his Son.

Jesus began new life as a grey, and gave the greys great power. But then, he died as a grey, thus selaing the fate of the greys. Immeadiately after Jesus left the greys, they began to get very sick.

They tried to save themselves by going back to their roots. They came to earth and tried to steal the souls of humans. They thought the soul was in the blood, so they began abducting humans and studying their DNA.

Unfortunately, the greys could not find the soul through science, and eventually a woman killed them by making a wish in the Great Pyramid. I believe this was around 1996.

The greys still exist, but only in the minds of those who still believe in them. Physically, they are dead.


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Re: the greys [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5646322 - 05/18/06 01:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Wow, that's .... weird, a weird story indeed, sad too ...

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Re: the greys [Re: MAIA]
    #5646383 - 05/18/06 01:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

indeed, I have shed many tears over this catastrophe. 

but hey, all's well that ends well, right?
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Re: the greys [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5646388 - 05/18/06 01:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

oh yeah, I forgot:

anyone reading this may be interested to know:

right now I have green eyes.

before 1996, my eyes were grey.

weird how things change color!


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Re: the greys [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5646938 - 05/18/06 04:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

uh...hmmmmm

Jesus was an alien.....we share thoughts


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Re: the greys [Re: goobler]
    #5646969 - 05/18/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: the greys [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5648035 - 05/18/06 10:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

jesus was an alien... but I was under the impression the greys fucked themselves over with cloning and genetic engineering, and letting their technology get ahead of their spiritual growth, kind of where we are now.


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Re: the greys [Re: Shroomism]
    #5648047 - 05/18/06 10:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

like I said, when the greys came to earth to study our blood, they were 'going back to their roots' :wink:

don't worry, though.  Humanity has many branches

thats why its so important! 

if humanity becomes extinct before it gets the chance to branch out, a bunch of sluts with no bodies and a lot of energy win big time. 

FUCK PLIEADIANS.  They are fascist little sluts.  but I still love them :smile:


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Re: the greys [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5648592 - 05/19/06 12:18 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i am so lost right now, anyone care to explain this to me in further detail please?


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Re: the greys [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5653268 - 05/20/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

<3 Pleiadians


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Re: the greys [Re: Shroomism]
    #5653634 - 05/20/06 03:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

pleiadians are cool, but they are too ambitious.

they want their system to be the center of the universe.

they must understand that the universe has no center. At least not a permenant one.

They tend to be bigots who don't understand the dark side. many pleiadians are incarnated here on earth so they can learn the importance of darkness.


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    #5655678 - 05/21/06 09:27 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: the greys [Re: soulcircus]
    #5655692 - 05/21/06 09:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I get my information from firsthand experience

seems to me like YOU are the one regurgitating stuff he's read.

Remember, all prophecies became inaccurate after 1972.


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Re: the greys [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5655783 - 05/21/06 10:20 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

DoctorJ, could you give more detail about these first hand experiences?

Is there a way that I can confirm this information from myself, or must I be chosen by the Zeta's or greys or whatever in order to commuincate with them?

Is your communication with them personal, like a conversation? Or is there a place where this information exists and can be accsessed at any given time by anyone?


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    #5655924 - 05/21/06 11:18 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: the greys [Re: soulcircus]
    #5664466 - 05/23/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the Grey's were certainly advanced technologically but total asshole when it came to humanity, which certainly was the point---- challenge humanities judgment by introducing them to a race which is totally dominated by logic and living algorithms so that we may not befall their mistakes- then the technology, which are physical manifestations of things we must learn to open up within ourselves- television, microwaves, computers ect...

Showing how not to live is critical, obviously, mistakes are critical; therefore, enter the interpretations of 'the dark side.' Perhaps is why pleiadians have such a different score of the dark side then humanity is because their so used to feeling the right course of action on an immediate level, that their dark side is different kind then ours-
Argo, it seems that the Grey's were more conceded about their existence then the pleiadians

The Grey's wanted to live for information, trying to be some eternal back up plan when the faithless fall out of grace, or something. but what the fuck does it do for the rest of us who are trying to overcome physical crutches? Self serving and deceiving most anyone everyone who didn't agree with their agenda to dominate, the Grey's are called thus by means of being marvelous "I's" .... nonetheless, loosing focus of karma that was scarce to begin with, that must be truly a difficult existence. Indeed, viewing lovers as justice, interesting if your a symbol of personal algorithms and not spirit.


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Re: the greys [Re: TheQueen]
    #5664582 - 05/23/06 01:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

dude, this thread is like, blowng my mind.

you know, if aliens were really all that smart, they would be smart enough to stay the hell away from earth. or better yet, its better I ask someone with first hand experience:

why would "greys" risk everything hey have been working on by coming to earth? The only way they could avoid war would be if their intentions were the same as those in power. and if thats the case, it would be worse than war.

and then if there is war, i again ask: why would they come here?

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loosing focus of karma that was scarce to begin with




it was to my understanding that karma, while being somewhat of a system of positive/negative is also the very force that keeps you from reaching nirvana, and being forced into reincarnation (to make up for karma).


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Re: the greys [Re: kotik]
    #5664664 - 05/23/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

that is entirely correct to the Buddhists.

no karma is the right kind of karma to have. good karma wears out. it's best to cultivate good karma so that you can practice spiritually in order to attain liberation. but not to practice good karma just so you can be comfortable for a while.


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Re: the greys [Re: leery11]
    #5664704 - 05/23/06 02:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

why dont we do something to stop the bastard aliens?


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Re: the greys [Re: LedHead]
    #5669521 - 05/24/06 05:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Thats like an ape trying to stop a human.


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    #5669543 - 05/24/06 05:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

that is a scary thought


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Re: the greys [Re: Ego Death]
    #5669555 - 05/24/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

is this all some limbo talk about our gov., but constrayed with different words, so that only those smart enough to desepher them can partake in the converstation therefore weeding out those who are not fully developed in the head, so that we as a people having a converstation can do so with those that have something to give tot eh converstation instead of taking it somewhere totally irelevent?


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Re: the greys [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5669569 - 05/24/06 05:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

bingo


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Re: the greys [Re: LedHead]
    #5669590 - 05/24/06 05:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i find it weird how different the beliefs are between greys and pleadians. It makes one wounder how they could change so much, almost to a point of thinking they themselfs are aliens!


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Re: the greys [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5670870 - 05/24/06 11:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the greys just give me very evil vibes, what do u think?


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Re: the greys [Re: LedHead]
    #5670901 - 05/24/06 11:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I hope for you guys' sakes that this is just fictional story telling and nobody is taking it seriously!!

Weird read.


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Re: the greys [Re: oO_wombat_Oo]
    #5671799 - 05/25/06 07:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Luckily I have acquired enough expirence points to cast grey's away from me with Lightning Bolt!

http://www.devilducky.com/media/9271/


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Re: the greys [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5675059 - 05/25/06 10:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"The greys still exist, but only in the minds of those who still believe in them. Physically, they are dead."


thats the only ludicrous part


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Re: the greys [Re: faslimy]
    #5675688 - 05/26/06 01:36 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

they can rematerialize in this plane, but they have limited power. For now.


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Re: the greys [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5675732 - 05/26/06 02:01 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Limited power for now is so true...the sad part is that power is being obsorbed by a black hole. i think that about says it all actually.


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Re: the greys [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5675747 - 05/26/06 02:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

power absorbed by a black hole returns to God.


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Re: the greys [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5677558 - 05/26/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

which brings another point.

if those who obose the greys, those who control and limit there movements. Get the majority of them to beleive in the control and the limitations and false beleifs.....if this happens is the controling and limiting still wrong? If not, would the greys still return to god?


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Re: the greys [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5677630 - 05/26/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the greys are bound to the lucifer rebellion
and facing extinction
they use human beings, and many other races in attempts to make it through the singularity

we are seeking a solution for everyone involved.
back around 1990, a pattern was set up around the earth so that greys cannot visit the earth anymore, it makes them ill.
they still try though, but they can only drop in for a few moments at a time, and not in a physical form.

i use to be in close contact with greys, direct communication.
they would offer me these gems of power, and wisdom.
at first i thought it was all good, like angels kinda.
only to realize it was a trick.


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Re: the greys [Re: Telepylus]
    #5677959 - 05/26/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think of it as a luciferian 'rebellion'

more like an 'experiment'

how do you rebel against God? He is omnipotent!

you can try to rebel, but you are really just digging yourself deeper in a hole.

I think the greys stopped rebelling awhile ago. Now they're just tryin to go with the flow


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Re: the greys [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5678231 - 05/26/06 08:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

im being contacted by somethin. cant tell if its good or bad source. its the form of white lights. almost any question i ask, if im in a bad state of mind, gets a response. i could tell more


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Re: the greys [Re: sleepy]
    #5678233 - 05/26/06 08:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

and oh yeah are we just talking about humans, like i used to think the devil was different but then i actually began to see God/devil saints/demons when looking at "humans", just percieving differently, like elves and humans and orcs from LOTR right?. is this the same with aliens? r u guys serious bout aliens? or r u just talkin about different manifest energy


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Re: the greys [Re: sleepy]
    #5678278 - 05/26/06 08:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

bla bla bla

ba ba baaaa


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Re: the greys [Re: faslimy]
    #5678360 - 05/26/06 08:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the reason why the greys are facing extinction is because they have externalized their power so they rely on technology.
and in the process of their advancement they lost the natural ability to pass through eternities using Unconditional Love.
Using Unconditional Love is Internalized Power, something humans can still manage.
Greys don't feel love anymore, and they don't know what it is.
Love is basically just a bond that unites this with that through time.
Molecules are Atoms held together by love.
DNA are Molecules held together by love, etc...

Greys have totally lost this natural capacity to facilitate the force of love, because they rely on technology to do everything for them.

This is why they use other races.
Their plan was to mix grey blood into human blood, therefore we can carry them through the singularity into the next eternity.

Greys are allowed to contact us and to use us because we all have grey blood in us.
Most races in the universe do have grey blood in them.

Greys are vicious though and unfeeling, they look at us as insects.
They are good at acting nice, to trick you.
But once you realize their agenda, it's foolish to bargain with them.


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Re: the greys [Re: Telepylus]
    #5678437 - 05/26/06 09:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

greys always come to me while I'm on acid, and they always tell me things I don't want to know. They usually tell me things that make me want to hurt people or do something bad.

but I do value their advice, for they have informed me of those that sought to doublecross me. Of course, they always suggest I solve the problem in a viscious or violent way, and these suggestions are always cheerfully ignored.

I hate seeing the greys because I know that they are going to tell me something painful.

but they are funny little guys


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Re: the greys [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5678483 - 05/26/06 09:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

u should try loving them, maybe the greys will feel it


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    #5678612 - 05/26/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

purhaps its time we trick them dirty greys. those against should pick a city and move in..everyone. Then, start taking over grey jobs...but use non grey ways...to spread the power...in dooing so i believe they could show that the old ways still work and are ok


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Re: the greys [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5679084 - 05/27/06 12:12 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

when i trip and know too much the invisible fucking greys come and take it from me or something and i get intense fear and my body gets cold and goose bumpy its really scary and creepy


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Re: the greys [Re: thedudenj]
    #5679583 - 05/27/06 04:16 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

its because part of them are inside the heads...or maybe just the fear of them


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Re: the greys [Re: soulcircus]
    #5679938 - 05/27/06 09:57 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i saw a ship and ran after it, when i was young and walked back but i bet i was abducted when i ran to this field and they erased my memory, ive got a hole in my forhead, like a indent, i bet i have a implanted probe in the frontal lobes. i know the frontal lobes is where they do lobotomies, and ive had weird shit happening with frontal lobe activity. does shroomism or any nurologist know if visual halucinations in the form of lights could be done with a implant and radio waves, or other?


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Re: the greys [Re: sleepy]
    #5719701 - 06/06/06 04:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

hey this is so weird... im always had a phobia of greys and whenever i trip i feel like i can see invisibile ones or i just get this feeling like oh great im tripping balls right now and there are greys watching me fucking wiht me. is there any truth to that or am i just really tripped out and totally off basis?


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Re: the greys [Re: LedHead]
    #5719913 - 06/06/06 05:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

lol

if you are seeing greys in your mind when you trip, it means you are most definately connected to them.

usually they only show themselves as giant heads floating in the room

they seem invisible because what they are doing is coming in from a higher dimensional vibration, as if all of the atoms of their bodies are spread out across vast distances, so you only see a diaphanous etheral vision of them, much larger and magnified.

if it were that they decided to eliminate the space between their atoms, then they would appear to you in solid form.
and trust me, you don't want that, lol

it is best you focus your imagination on other things.
but if you chose to communicate with the images you're seeing, they will answer back, if it be your vision is authentic.
they always say they've been watching you your whole life, and they'll say they come to scrutinize your spirit and to heal you
which, sometimes they do, the same way a human will heal a flock of chickens for slaughter for money

greys do have the power to wipe out indivduals memories yes, and they wish that they could erase the memories of the entire planet, but they are forbidden from doing that right now.
this plan of theirs to erase the worlds memories hasn't actually been stopped yet, but it's being managed.
total removal of mankinds memory has been done before on this planet.
there is another kind of memory at work though too, a spiritual memory of immortal beings, that can't be erased so easily.


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Re: the greys [Re: Telepylus]
    #5720667 - 06/06/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Very interesting stuff. I used to communicate with Greys when I was on my solo mushroom trips. That was a handful of years ago and alcohol has become the pronounced drug in my life. Since the switch over to booze, the visions and "conversations" have faded completely away.


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Re: the greys [Re: Spooge]
    #5720790 - 06/06/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

the more people that believe in greys the more that see them.

this is auto-suggestion.

i have no idea if you guys are right or wrong but it's crazy stuff.
"The greys still exist, but only in the minds of those who still believe in them. Physically, they are dead. "


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Re: the greys [Re: leery11]
    #5721162 - 06/06/06 11:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

man reading this thread is giving me weird vibes.


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Re: the greys [Re: chaospilot]
    #5721222 - 06/06/06 11:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Aleister Crowley was in direct contact with the Greys too.
He called this being The Lam, a delegate of the Secret Chiefs.
And this was long before the UFO scare of the 1940's.


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Re: the greys [Re: Telepylus]
    #5721324 - 06/06/06 11:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I see what appear to be the faces of grey's quite often these days when I meditate on my third eye/pineal gland.

I think that endogenous DMT secretions have *somthing* to do with facillitating the contact. Many people who have taken DMT have experiences with "entities" and "abduction style" stories.

It sounds really foolish, childish, and not serious of me--but the only things I really try and "communicate" with them are the following:

"I want to smoke a bowl with you"
-or-
"I AM THAT I AM, BOW BEFORE THE ONENESS OF ME/US/IT"

So yeah, i'm trying to use my own divinity to control, master, manipulate and show the "Greys" who REALLY knows who is who.

Ive been shown by myself/mushroom that I am God. Just as the entire universe can be found in a single atom. I know this, I feel this, and deeply belive it.

Armed with the knowledge that I am eternal and can never be extinguished from existance totally--I try and exercise my divine right of creation and manipulation.

I'll let you know if I can get the Grey's to smoke a bowl with me...I think i'd be able to smoke em' under the table. That is of course, they even have cannabanoid receptors...otherwise im FUCKED! haha!

No but seriously, I belive in myself enough to risk trying to force my will upon these entities. I don't fear retailliation, because ultimatley we are all of the same. What can I do to myself if I know I can't ever be destroyed?

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Re: the greys [Re: MystikMushroom]
    #5721414 - 06/07/06 12:19 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

lol...

all DMT or LSD does is rend the veil over your mind so you can see more clearly into the spirit.
of course there are alot of levels of interference in the way, but the point is, it opens the third eye.

and when your third eye is open you're going to see all kinds of spirits and aliens and monsters and all kinds of crazy stuff, because the air is completely filled with them.
if you tell yourself it's just hallucination, it'll go away usually.
but if you follow your visions, they will expose bits of evidence that lead you along to finding the truth.

they really don't want you to see them, and you don't want to see them either, that is why most people never do.
but if you pry, you can force them to communicate just by virtue of the fact that you are human.
but then again, you shouldn't really be messing with that kinda communication anyways.
people do it though.
the US government most certainly does, lol
trying to find a solution for all parties involved.
why do you think their so interested in Mars?
are they searching for life in the universe, ha. that's a laugh.


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Re: the greys [Re: Telepylus]
    #5721488 - 06/07/06 12:34 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I went into a hypnogogic trance state at work today...Suddenly, a fold of fabric on my jacket took on a "presence" and "smiled" at me. Hair went up on my body and I instantly became alert.

Yes, I know what you mean when you say that the air is FULL of entities. I don't see them very often, but when I do I get a very "psychedelic" feeling.

I reguard these entities as exentions of myself on higher or lower vibrational levels. Or, diffrent "frames" of perception/reality. We are all the same "one-ness"; but the greys and others seem to "choose" to exist how they exist, just as you and I "choose" (somehow) to exist as we do.

I feel as though knowing this, beliving this, and exercising this gives me a "leg up" over some people that have terrifying and frightening experiences with these creatures.

They can't do anything to you that you don't allow...It's just like how to deal with a bad trip--you are what you think. If you think "fear, confusion, terror" when seeing these...you'll shit your pants (they can really be that startling!)

Usually, they seem somewhat surprised that you can see them. I get the impression that if I were to not react in any way, they would assume I can't see them. They can't "psychically" connect unless you allow them to.

EVERYTHING IS EVERYTHING...I am the greys, the greys are me. My keyboard is as much a "grey" as a grey is my cellphone.


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Re: the greys [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5721908 - 06/07/06 03:15 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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makaveli8x8 said:
which brings another point.

if those who obose the greys, those who control and limit there movements. Get the majority of them to beleive in the control and the limitations and false beleifs.....if this happens is the controling and limiting still wrong? If not, would the greys still return to god?



All things that are True return to God.
This is exactly why the Greys want to make a hybrid race.
Thinking that they can fuse enough of their DNA make-up into a human, who will carry their essence through the singularity into the next eternity.

They hope the hybrid will return to God yes, so that once it's on the otherside it can split off again. It is the only chance they have to save some reminant of their memory, and their apparent immortality.

controlling or limiting the movement of the greys is not a matter of acting upon them, but rather an act of honesty obeying the Order, and maintaining a grip on our reality.

another name for the devil is The Liar.
And the world is the lie-cycle.
Illusionary.
As opposed to God, the Whole Honest Truth of the Order of the Life-Cycle.
The Greys are almost completely constructed by lies at this point, covered-up with them. Their externalized technologies will soon become useless to them and they have no souls to shelter them.

As human beings we are built to operate emersed alive in the lie-cycle.
And the ebb & sway of our thoughts give and take vast amounts of sorrow and joy. With every breath you are someway connected to breath of new born babies popping out all across the globe, and also people on their death bed giving their last breath.



Can greys become honest and repent to save themselves?
the answer is no.
it is an organisms form which defines the fields of living light around them. the grey form has lost it's ability to manifest the field of living light that is necessary to pass through the singularity.
this is why they have such super fazzly space-ships, because they've externalized their power to rely on those shapes.
when the greys appear to you in "spirit form" it is not because they have some divine power, it is because they pushed an actual button somewhere in their mind.
Greys even have a tiny computer planted inside of their bodies, and they interface with it by simple hand gestures & glances and such.

the field of living light that exists because of the natural definition of geometries of the human body is basically an organic space ship, when activated properly, which is exactly why it is that we can pass through the singularity.
A better term to use is, passing over the great wall, because we're not really passing through the singularity, "we" are avoiding it all together in the only way possible, by returning True.

i want to give you an example of how this works-
imagine you are on a collision course with the sun
as you approach the sun things start to get hot, and speed up, as the gravity pulls you
you begin to worry
and you get frantic
you remember there is a keyhole on the sun, and if you can just get the key out of your pocket in time, and put it in at the proper moment, to return True, then what happens is you will be cast back, into an all new eternity, which basically means you'll be reliving your life over and over with gladness in obedience with God.
inbetween the eternities you can change things sometimes too, a little bit.
for example, in the next eternity, it is possible that no grey form will ever arise.
the human form will though, that much is known.


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Re: the greys [Re: Telepylus]
    #5722583 - 06/07/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

you guys are neglecting the other angle.

they communicate with you because you are communicating with yourself. i have this made evident on salvia. what starts as nothing but loose geometric like forms become "people" only WHEN you talk to them and label them as people.

if you label something as grey it will be grey and you can talk to it. if you label something as "stuffed mushroom" then it will be a stuffed mushroom and you can eat it.

what makes you so certain that they are outside your head? You can communicate with yourself ya know.....


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Re: the greys [Re: leery11]
    #5722844 - 06/07/06 01:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

have greys ever actually killed someone? i mean hypothetically have they ever abducted someone from their bed and than killed them and the person in question who was killed gets labeled as a kidnap victim or missing persons by their family and police?


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Re: the greys [Re: LedHead]
    #5722870 - 06/07/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

from what I know they always return people, but those people are usually physically altered in some way, like they've had blood removed or devices implanted, or they've been probed...

Not to mention the shattered memories and emotional scars...

As far as I know, though, the abductions have stopped since the greys became phantasms with no solid physical bodies.

I'm sure a few people were killed, but normally the greys don't want to bring that much attention to themselves so they return the abductees.


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Re: the greys [Re: leery11]
    #5723363 - 06/07/06 04:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

leery11 said:
you guys are neglecting the other angle.

they communicate with you because you are communicating with yourself. i have this made evident on salvia. what starts as nothing but loose geometric like forms become "people" only WHEN you talk to them and label them as people.

if you label something as grey it will be grey and you can talk to it. if you label something as "stuffed mushroom" then it will be a stuffed mushroom and you can eat it.

what makes you so certain that they are outside your head? You can communicate with yourself ya know.....




Very good point. I've always thought that if alien's did communicate with humanity, it would be via consciousness somehow. I'll bet thought travels a lot faster then light. (or is thought light?)

Unless the grey's have formed a technology that allows them to play with consciousness. Then they could be both within our heads and without, who knows.


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Re: the greys [Re: MOTH]
    #5723529 - 06/07/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

unless you are given proof that they are outside your head, then it's silly to believe in fantasies.

proof is offered in many different ways.
one way is they offer information that you personally deem impossible for your own mind to have come up with.

there is another way they prove themselves but i won't divulge that information because it's something i use to determine if someone has actually truly achieved contact, and sometimes i worry about people picking up the information and using it to weave lies, so i'll refrain from that.

have the greys ever killed someone, lol
they are responsible for most of the death on this planet, and on most planets, in a very indirect way.
There was a time when human beings could live hundreds of years, not to mention civilzations carrying with them the secret of Immortality.
Like the Egyptians. The secrets have been there all along, but only very few people can ever understand them, cause it's meant to be that way.

anyways, back to my point, the greys don't always return people.
if they can get away with it, they will, and they have.
one trick they use is to make people want to come with them.
Because they can be very beautiful & powerful.
If you are willing to join with them, they will work with you, but i'd advise against that.

The only reason I would even bother to think about them is to keep my eye on them.
Being human you can Invoke the Greys to come to you, that is exactly what Aleister Crowley was doing.
It's been awhile since I've bothered to go there.
When autumn comes perhaps.


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