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Gypsum?
    #5646059 - 05/18/06 12:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have read somewhere that gypsum is added to grain jars prior to pressure cooking to prevent the grains from sticking together. Anybody that has done this before, do you just put a knife tip of gypsum on top of the grain that you put in the jar and then close it? I was thinking that perhaps the gypsum melts in the pressure cooker and gets distributed. Or do you have to mix it in with the grain? Another thing, what is the tape that you need to put on the lids of the jars. Microporous was it? And if so, do I just ask for it at a pharmacy and they will know what Im talking about? Oh and one more thing, I heard that vermiculite could be added to the grain before pcing the jars. Is that true? What are the benefits of doing such? And how much vermiculite in proportion to grain would I use. I am going to be pcing 12 pint jars in a few hours and just wanted to get everything together. Much appreciated!


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Re: Gypsum? [Re: hybridphil]
    #5646401 - 05/18/06 01:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

ok i can help a little(lol). Look for the micropore tape where the bandaides are. it is the clear tape used with gauze bandages, it will say that it is micropore on it somewhere. I get mine at walmart or the grocery store. as for the vermiculite i dont think it is very much check the post recently in this topic that yours is in i just say it


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Re: Gypsum? [Re: kilroy]
    #5646406 - 05/18/06 01:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

it is in the simmer rye quenna thread. I guy said he puts a spoonful in his but did not metion saize of jar, check the tread and pm him and ask, hoped that helped


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Re: Gypsum? [Re: kilroy]
    #5646412 - 05/18/06 01:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Gypsum? [Re: hybridphil]
    #5646455 - 05/18/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Much appreciated kilroy!


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Re: Gypsum? [Re: kilroy]
    #5646479 - 05/18/06 02:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I add gypsum to the water the grains soak in. The first step is to wash the grains very well. Put them in a pot of water and swirl it around, then drain the water out. Repeat a few times until the water pours off clear. If you skip this step, your grains will be clumped up and sticking together whether you use gypsum or not.

Fill the pot with hot tap water and soak the grains for 24 hours. Add one tablespoon of gypsum for each two gallons of soak water.

After 24 hours, bring the pot of water/grain/gypsum to a boil for five minutes. Drain while still boiling into a strainer and allow to drain well for five minutes. Shake the collander to toss the grains in the air a bit to let the steam evaporate the moisture off the surface of the grains. Fill jars 2/3 full, cover with filtered lid and pc for 90 minutes after covering the top of the jar with aluminum foil.

If you'll follow the above instructions, you can leave the PC'd jars in the pressure cooker overnight to cool to room temperature. When you remove the cold jars and turn them upside down, every single kernel will separate from every other kernel, and they'll flow almost like sand in an hour glass, with absolutely no sticking or clumping. I'm no fan of micropore tape. Drill two very small holes of 1mm or 1/16" in the lid, then use a synthetic filter disk or extra thick(not post office)tyvek. Good luck.
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Re: Gypsum? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7418852 - 09/17/07 05:00 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Hey RR,

I recently bought your DVDs and watched them thoroughly. I noticed here you said:

"After 24 hours, bring the pot of water/grain/gypsum to a boil for five minutes. Drain while still boiling into a strainer and allow to drain well for five minutes. Shake the collander to toss the grains in the air a bit to let the steam evaporate the moisture off the surface of the grains. Fill jars 2/3 full, cover with filtered lid and pc for 90 minutes after covering the top of the jar with aluminum foil. "

...but in your DVD you say to boil for 10 minutes. Which is better or does it matter?

(Love the DVDs, btw!)


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Re: Gypsum? [Re: Looney Booms]
    #7418877 - 09/17/07 05:39 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

RR what dont you like about post office tyvek?


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Re: Gypsum? [Re: orchidfanatic]
    #7418904 - 09/17/07 06:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Five to twenty minutes boiling time after the soak is great. The amount of boiling time isn't critical, as long as they boil for a few minutes. It won't crack the kernels as long as they've soaked for a few hours in hot tap water first.

Post office tyvek is thinner and not as effective at stopping contaminants as the multi-ply, much thicker tyvek used in wrist sleeves and coveralls.
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Re: Gypsum? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7419349 - 09/17/07 11:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

RR:
Would 2 layers of post office tyvek be efficient enough?
I was also just wondering what you had against micropore tape, just curious.


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