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The Big H, H for Heroin
    #5644361 - 05/17/06 11:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i finally decided that i will try heroin. i have been trying to get it these past 6 months and now i can. black tar. i have debating whether to pick some up for the past year.

i was told snorting is the best way to go for tar, but i am not sure. drop a bit in a spoon, with a drop or 2 of water, heat until liquified. snort the water up the nose and bam.

what is the best method for tar?

spare me the addiction and talk. i know the powers of this drug.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: mushiemountain]
    #5644369 - 05/17/06 11:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Good call, smack is fun. It's highly demonized, but it's a great high.

I don't have any experience with black tar... all the dope I've ever had was a brownish-tan to off-white colored powder that came in little wax baggies.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: mushiemountain]
    #5644370 - 05/17/06 11:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: mushiemountain]
    #5644384 - 05/17/06 11:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Just make sure to start off small, tolerance to H is very small for first time users. Wish I could help but I haven't had any experience with black tar either.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: mushiemountain]
    #5644539 - 05/18/06 12:19 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

when i did h i just smoked the black tar


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: mushiemountain]
    #5644555 - 05/18/06 12:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Meh. The only time I ever tried heroin, I decided to rail it. I ended up nodding out while banging some chick.

I never touched the stuff again.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: mushiemountain]
    #5644560 - 05/18/06 12:25 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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mushiemountain said:
i finally decided that i will try heroin.




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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: jcdangerously]
    #5644604 - 05/18/06 12:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

man i was all doped out on like 120mg of oxy one night and was bangin the hell outta this girl and totally puked everywhere it was great :laugh: at least i didnt get it on her she understood which was nice


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: Dobie]
    #5644628 - 05/18/06 12:41 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That's a lot of oxy


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: mushiemountain]
    #5644633 - 05/18/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've never done H, but here is more info on black tar heroin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_tar_heroin

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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: mushiemountain]
    #5644634 - 05/18/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Try smoking it first. Since you are just starting it will still get you pretty high, all though its the least effective method (but in many ways the safest). I think smoking/snorting are pretty similar though in terms of tolerance. I just know people who started slamming and now they say any other way besides the needle doesn't do nearly as much. I just stick to smoking. It actually hits you the fastest of any way, but not as strong. I have read many of your posts about heroin/opiates. You seem to have given it plenty of thought, so I don't need to tell you to be careful etc etc. Good luck, have fun, and stay safe.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: mushiemountain]
    #5644653 - 05/18/06 12:48 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Herion will most likely kill you, my friend died for 10 minutes on the shit, good thing a hotel patron was around to call 911, or he would have been dead for good. He is my age, I went to high school with him. In fact I talk to him still off and on.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: Skunk420]
    #5644670 - 05/18/06 12:53 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

sorry dont take this as a flame but thats is retarded how are you gonna say herion is most likely gonna kill you. you sound like a dare officer. ive smoked herion and done more oxy than you can even imagine and im still alive i really hate how people wont look down on you for doin oxy but god forbid you smoke some blacktar.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: ilikebigbuds21]
    #5644675 - 05/18/06 12:54 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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ilikebigbuds21 said:
That's a lot of oxy




yeah i had quite a tolerance at that point i wasnt really that wasted i was just shakin my belly around too much and plus i had drank a couple beers with it as well


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: Dobie]
    #5644678 - 05/18/06 12:55 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You're right.

H is actually a relitavely safe drug compared to a lot of others. The biggest risk is an overdose, but not much negative effects besides that. As long as you're careful and educated and start off small...especially with new batches to test the purity...all should be golden.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: theuser]
    #5644680 - 05/18/06 12:56 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

theuser said:
Quote:

mushiemountain said:
i finally decided that i will try heroin.




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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: ilikebigbuds21]
    #5644689 - 05/18/06 01:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

some how everyone at my work found out i smoked smack they all freaked out on and all the girls wanted me to go to church and all that shit. it was rather annoying but it was all fine and dandy when i was spending 50 bucks a day on oxy. sorry smack is just cheaper and a better high :laugh:


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #5644690 - 05/18/06 01:01 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Good call, smack is fun. It's highly demonized, but it's a great high.

I don't have any experience with black tar... all the dope I've ever had was a brownish-tan to off-white colored powder that came in little wax baggies.



I agree, but moderation is key, when dealing with this particular drug. Good luck and happy trails!


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: Dobie]
    #5644696 - 05/18/06 01:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

They're right, you need Jesus my son  :smirk:


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: ilikebigbuds21]
    #5644707 - 05/18/06 01:06 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

we made a cowboy jesus at work today it was fun he had a cowboyhat and everything :laugh:


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: Dobie]
    #5644713 - 05/18/06 01:08 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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dobie said:
sorry dont take this as a flame but thats is retarded how are you gonna say herion is most likely gonna kill you. you sound like a dare officer. ive smoked herion and done more oxy than you can even imagine and im still alive i really hate how people wont look down on you for doin oxy but god forbid you smoke some blacktar.



Heroin is bad, end of story.  :shocked:


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: Dobie]
    #5644715 - 05/18/06 01:09 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Themed Jesus's rule! I think it would be cool to make a Stretch Armstrong Jesus, where he is on the cross but it's more like a plus sign than a t because his arms would be 9 feet long.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: Dobie]
    #5644720 - 05/18/06 01:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Oh, and I'm not fooled by your decoy pic! I know you are really Tom from myspace


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: ilikebigbuds21]
    #5644728 - 05/18/06 01:13 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:lol:

Tom...

Quote:

skunk78395 said:



Heroin is bad, mmmkay? :shocked:




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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: ilikebigbuds21]
    #5644732 - 05/18/06 01:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

im tom and im rich i get all the myspace girlies :laugh:


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: Dobie]
    #5644737 - 05/18/06 01:17 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hook me up! I'm looking for a girl between the ages of 14 and 14 1/2, with really big boobs.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: ilikebigbuds21]
    #5644758 - 05/18/06 01:23 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i need to stay away from myspace chicks they all are nuts


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: ilikebigbuds21]
    #5644767 - 05/18/06 01:25 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

why not get some opium?

Never tried H but opium high is one of the best ever.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: Cepheus]
    #5644776 - 05/18/06 01:27 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've tried them both. Opium is cool, it's great to chill you out. But I'm sure you've heard it countless times, nothing beats H.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: Cepheus]
    #5644783 - 05/18/06 01:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i have never done heroin,and i wont do it until im 60... but i love opiates


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: Cepheus]
    #5644945 - 05/18/06 02:22 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah ive only seen real opuim once and it was some homegrown stuff it doesnt really come around here much


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: Dobie]
    #5644951 - 05/18/06 02:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It used to roll through Jerzey a decent amount, and fairly cheap too. I'm concidering growing my own, it doesn't seem too difficult.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: ilikebigbuds21]
    #5644968 - 05/18/06 02:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah ive thought about it for years but im always either living in a shitty apartment somewhere or here with my parents now i dont think my parents would mind really i know my dad would be down but i think someone in the family would steal that shit before it was even done


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: Dobie]
    #5645085 - 05/18/06 03:05 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah man, herion.

Thats the best thing you could get into and spend your money on.

Good thinking, I mean, it's magic in a fuckin' ooz.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: enderwood]
    #5645278 - 05/18/06 06:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

dont try that shit :runaway:


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: ilikebigbuds21]
    #5645347 - 05/18/06 07:06 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

ilikebigbuds21 said:
But I'm sure you've heard it countless times, nothing beats H.




Meh...any IV opiate that's oxy or stronger is pretty much "just as good" unless you're a super junkie.

Hydromorphone (Dilaudid) is actually a better rush.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: monamine]
    #5645422 - 05/18/06 07:56 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Safe drug? Isn't that the drug with highest addiction potential?
I wouldn't do it, i'd like it and never stop doing it, that's what happend to many. But many around seem so lax at the topic.

I know u mushimountain said no words aboot this but for a moment i really doubt i was reading some drug veterans on the shroomery.

anyway, is this really a PUB's thread? Maybe OTD, ODD... i like it more when we talk about shrooms and ego death n_n no real threats u know.

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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: AngeloWish]
    #5645638 - 05/18/06 09:20 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Isn't that the drug with highest addiction potential?




Define "highest addiction potential". Nicotine is by far the drug where you develop the fastest physical tolerance. Benzodiazapines are up there physically, but they are only low-moderate on the psychological side. Cocaine and amphetamines are only mildy if at all physically addictive (former IMHO),but they have extreme psychological depedence.

I'd guess I'd say opiates all around, but they are also really safe in and of themselves if you're careful about overdose. Most opiate problems simply come from stupid ass laws.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: mushiemountain]
    #5645649 - 05/18/06 09:27 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

man.. leave that tar alone.. if your goona do it, at least go get some good powder.. its not worth it otherwise..


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: Infrared]
    #5645958 - 05/18/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well what i tryed to say was that it is very easy to get hooked. That`s the point... dont get hooked.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: AngeloWish]
    #5645980 - 05/18/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have alot of experience in dealing with this drug and it's negative effect on people. I personally, have only smoked it, once and have done diladid(sp) K-4, once. That was enough to know that it wasn't for me. It was too good of a feeling. I can see how people get hooked so easily, because aside from the physical addiction that it imposes, the euphoria is off the charts!

It has been almost 12 years since i did it last. I'll stick with the weaker opiates like lortab. That's more to my tastes. They are not to be toyed with, though. Alot of my friends went through their junky phase, with opiates and some are still struggling with it, today.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: blissedout]
    #5646559 - 05/18/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

thanks for all the comments. i will be picking up a half gram of this tar tomorrow. since the purity is unknown and i have never done H before, i have no idea what would be a good starting point.
i have a slight idea from the image of my friend doing it when i was offered. he pulled off a piece the size of a standard size tab of acid.

would a glass dick be effecient for smoking it?

is there any difference in the duration between nasally and smoking it? erowid doesn't have much info on snorting.

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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: mushiemountain]
    #5646927 - 05/18/06 04:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

With the tar, I haven't had much success with anything but aluminum foil for smoking it. If you get a glass dick/lightbulb that is thin enough I think it will work, but the tar often seems stubborn and doesnt want to burn.

The high lasts a couple hours from smoking it. You can really feel it for the first 30 mins to an hour, and then it kinda starts to fade, but you still feel good/positive for a while after that.

I am not sure about snorting, as the only times ive snorted I was already way high from smoking and was kinda fiending and getting goo off the bag that was too thin/spread out to put on foil. I know it doesn't hit you as fast, but I am not sure if it lasts significantly longer.

Ah, the days when a half gram looked so huge :eek:. If you let yourself become a daily user, it will probably not be too long before that becomes your daily dosage (or more than that) if you are smoking it since thats weaker. Just curious, how much are you paying for a half gram?


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: CUBErt]
    #5648594 - 05/19/06 12:18 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i am actually now getting a gram for 40$. i guess i will try with a thin glass dick, as i am not too fond for foil. and then i will try to snort, but i still don't know a good size to try out besides the memory of my friend using a acid tab-sized piece of tar. any comments?


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: mushiemountain]
    #5648652 - 05/19/06 12:32 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That's a damn good price. Like I said before, never had experience with tar, but I'd start off real small for the first time and work my way up, you never know how potent a batch is. I don't really want to give you a dosage advice though, because that is against the rules, and I wouldn't want to break any of those.


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: mushiemountain]
    #5651104 - 05/19/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yea man $40 for a gram is nice compared to here. Where I live its usually $30 for a half gram and $60 for a gram (maybe $50 if the dealer wants to be competetive). But I know friends who have charged other people $40 for less than a half gram, but of course that was to rip them off to support their own habit  :frown:


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Re: The Big H, H for Heroin [Re: CUBErt]
    #5652185 - 05/20/06 02:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

well i didn't get it today. bummer. i guess tomorrow. i'll try smoking it first i suppose.


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