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Straw question
    #5643563 - 05/17/06 08:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

How is the potency of straw I hear conflicting stories. The searchs I did suggest it is weaker but others say it is just as good as poo.

Has anyone done any definative tests or is it just opinion?


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Re: Straw question [Re: ASD]
    #5643606 - 05/17/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The potency of my straw grown mushrooms is fine.  :thumbup:

They don't reach the size of those grown on horse shit, however.


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Re: Straw question [Re: ASD]
    #5643621 - 05/17/06 08:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Not only that, but straw will only yield 1 good flush. Poo will yield a few.


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Re: Straw question [Re: dog]
    #5643627 - 05/17/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

so the difference is that they do not get 100% bio efeincy? or that the fruits are small?


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Re: Straw question [Re: FooMan]
    #5643632 - 05/17/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

does it deliver a larger flush in the begining or just yeild less over all?


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Re: Straw question [Re: ASD]
    #5643638 - 05/17/06 08:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It delivers a great first flush. The overall yeild when you compare it to poo sucks though.


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Re: Straw question [Re: dog]
    #5643639 - 05/17/06 08:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

ive done straight poo and just got body highs off the shrooms and extreme retardation. the straw adds the visual. i actually like using both.


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Re: Straw question [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #5643644 - 05/17/06 08:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i can't believe the dog chimed in haven't seen him in awhile


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Re: Straw question [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #5643651 - 05/17/06 08:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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i can't believe the dog chimed in haven't seen him in awhile




You're right. I haven't seen Agar in awhile either. Not as long as dog though.


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Re: Straw question [Re: ASD]
    #5643662 - 05/17/06 08:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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so the difference is that they do not get 100% bio efeincy? or that the fruits are small?



Straw produces nice sized fruits but horse shit can produce some monsters, particularly in later flushes.


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Re: Straw question [Re: dog]
    #5643673 - 05/17/06 08:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

cool, thanks.

I seem to remeber you or your avatar. where you around before the otd Wars. That is about the time I left.


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Re: Straw question [Re: dog]
    #5643710 - 05/17/06 09:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

if you use straight straw the mouisture never stays in the substrate for the 2nd and third flushes. but the poo just dosn't seem to have the potency that is required. although ive never used horse poo just cow poo so these guys might know something i don't. use both!


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Re: Straw question [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #5644212 - 05/17/06 10:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Different substrates aren't going to give different types of a trip, and unless your cowpoo has been exposed to particle radiation or something, it will have the necessary nutrients to produce adequate amounts of psychoactive alks.


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Re: Straw question [Re: ASD]
    #5644289 - 05/17/06 11:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

straw is great because its easily bought in bulk, its cheap, and colonizes relatively quick when finely chopped.

some down sides:
1. easily contaminates (in my opinion) even when pasteurized
2. needs to be PH corrected becuase of its high acidity content
3. is laborious to prepare correctly. unless you have a weed wacker or mulcher of course.

straw has done me good, but has not been my favorite medium. switch to hpoo. its your best bet.


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Re: Straw question [Re: Tweexican]
    #5645389 - 05/18/06 07:41 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

4 grams of my straw shrooms split between my friend and I, rocked both of us. They were pppotent.


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Re: Straw question [Re: ASD]
    #5645610 - 05/18/06 09:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Potency is fine ( Ive never had a complaint when i gave my friends samples  :wink: )

as for a single great flush, that just isn't true

actually my second and third flushes turn out as well or better then the first.

good thing about straw is isn't doesn't generate as much heat during colonization as poo, so you can make your substrate level higher.....
more substrate, more shrooms.

i use a 10"-12" substrate level, and get a steady 1/2 lb dry per 2 gallon tray ( app 12" x 14" x 12 ....don't have one here to actually measure but thats close)
maybe i could get more yield with poo as i have always saved any poo Ive got for pans and dung lovers, but straw is definitely a very good substrate also.

also shredding straw isn't necessary..
it will colonize just fine whole


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