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This Makes Me Pissed Off
    #5642772 - 05/17/06 05:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Oregon


It was posted over at Irevolution.info

Thought I'd post it here too.

It's probably old, but if you haven't seen it.  Watch it...

I really do expect things like this to be more common in the future... :sad:


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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5642821 - 05/17/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That was one of the most disturbing videos I have ever seen.


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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: Animals]
    #5642875 - 05/17/06 05:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Are they allowed to block the streets like that? Were they on private property? They mentioned something about the Hilton Hotel. The only reason I ask is because it's important to question information like this when it is so biased, even if it is showing video footage from the perspective of police.


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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: Hawkeye3]
    #5642886 - 05/17/06 05:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Are the streets of Portland private property?

And of course it's biased. EVERYTHING is biased.


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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: Animals]
    #5642902 - 05/17/06 05:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I believe in democracy motherfucker.


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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5642940 - 05/17/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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McKennaDMT said:
Are the streets of Portland private property?

And of course it's biased. EVERYTHING is biased.





Are they allowed to obstruct the roadways like that? Also, is that a fire? (look at the video when the trumpet solo is playing. It looks like a fire. Is that legal?)


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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: Hawkeye3]
    #5642971 - 05/17/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Can you say who or what it was started by?


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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5643018 - 05/17/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

No, I can't, I'm simply asking questions, likening American soceity to Nazi germany makes me seriously question the content of the video. It's still unclear to me as to whether or not protesters can obstruct roadways like that.


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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: Hawkeye3]
    #5643059 - 05/17/06 06:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Public Place= No Expectation of Privacy...
You and I can film walking down street, why can't cops?
And then there's the whole legality of obstuction of streets, vandelism, etc...

I'm not agreeing with the film at all, I'm just saying...

We get protesters all the time in my area... and they usually are cool until someone does something stupid...
Recently, protesters walked onto the freeway via onramp and walked along freeway, chanting. CHP showed up, and asked them to move over to the traintracks just yards away. Total compromise.
Just move over a few fucking yards and you can shout up a storm.
BUT NOOOOOOOOOOO.
They refused to move off the freeway ( clearly posted no peds), and some were arrested. Then the protesters called foul. Bullshit.

This is America!! Do what you need to do, but be smart about it. Keep it on the D/L.

Peace


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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5643081 - 05/17/06 06:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

thats fucked up


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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5643140 - 05/17/06 06:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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They refused to move off the freeway ( clearly posted no peds), and some were arrested. Then the protesters called foul. Bullshit.




I made a sign once. It said "No Jews"

but nobody listened.


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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5643165 - 05/17/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Why "CANT" cops, because they shouldnt, I would guess you dont read alot of Philosophy, or history.

If you did, this would, be, obviously WRONG.
Think critically. 

As for pulling people off the street ,people have a RIGHT to express their opinions.

Why are you first critical of the protesters?? I bet your Government LOVES you. :smile:
All citizens should be critical of their government AND their police force, why??

Well its an esential part of Democracy, which BTW, started out well over 100's of years ago............, and they GOT IT. :wink:


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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: Hawkeye3]
    #5643206 - 05/17/06 07:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

During the 2004 Republican National Convention some 1800 protesters were arrested.

Charges were dropped in over 1600 of the cases.

They were filmed too.


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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #5643215 - 05/17/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

They have a right to express thier opinions... I'll die protecting that right.

But they do not have the right to blatenly break the law.
If I carry a sign and shout " Save the Whales", can I blow 5 people away, and then cry " Foul" when I'm arrested?
Peaceful and Lawful Assembly..Not hiding behind thier signs.

And if you are so blind as to do something illegal, whatever it might be, in a public place, be aware there might be a witness.
And there might be film at 11.
If people choose to break the law during a protest, then they should shut up and take 1 for the cause. It was thier choice!!

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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5643227 - 05/17/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

See my above post, you may be arrested regardless.

How do you feel about that?


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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #5643270 - 05/17/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Look, Man,
I'm not choosing sides-- I think the Gov't is SNAFU and not getting better...
Big Brother is upon us, dammit!!

I think that people who have something to say should say it in a peaceful way.

Remember the Pepper Spray Incident-- Yeah, thats my area. So I know about individual fuck-ups by human cops.
The cops went to far.

And sometimes the martyrs go to far too. Works both ways.
Peace.


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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5643273 - 05/17/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

They have every right to protest.  They have every right to question their government which they were doing.  They have every right to make their point in anyway necessary as long as they bring no harm to others.  They did not, it was the police that brought the harm.  And why was that?  Becasue the politicians in the hotel could hear the protesters from the hotel.  They didn't like that and they let the police know they didn't like it and they police got rid of them.

And if you're only offense about this whole video is that "they were blocking a street", then you've got some major waking up to to, my friend. :sad:


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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5643275 - 05/17/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Agreed.


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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5643286 - 05/17/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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Becasue the politicians in the hotel could hear the protesters from the hotel. They didn't like that and they let the police know they didn't like it and they police got rid of them.




Find me some more evidence of this aside from the leftists propaganda video you posted.

You've have a little "waking up" to do also.


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Re: This Makes Me Pissed Off [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #5643301 - 05/17/06 07:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hahahaha...this coming from a guy with a Bill Hicks avatar. :cool:


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