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OfflineSporetacus
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Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter
    #5639610 - 05/16/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

IMHO there are way too many posts saying it doesn't 'really' matter if Christ raised people from the dead or Castaneda jumped off a cliff. It is ALL allegory.

If these things were unimportant then they would not have been mentioned. If they were false then they should not have been mentioned and comingling fact with fiction puts the entire account into question.

The TRUTH (not The FICTION) shall set you free.


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OfflineEquilibriuM
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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5639635 - 05/16/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Who can tell us the truth? and why will we believe them?


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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5639743 - 05/16/06 09:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Da troot shal set you fee. :thumbup:

Sorry I was eating when I wrote this. :blush:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5639791 - 05/16/06 10:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Nothing really matters
Anyone can see
Nothing really matters - nothing really matters to me.


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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5639802 - 05/16/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Your getting the hang of this....if it is philosophy physical facts do not matter....the philosophy is the meat of it. I have found much valid philosophy in The Lord of the Rings which is admitted fiction. If we are talking science...give me fact. So why are there too many posts with this view? Is there a legal limit? I suppose you could call 911 and report it. In the end I do not care if Jesus ever got laid or if Castaneda tried BASE jumping without a chute.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5639821 - 05/16/06 10:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)



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OfflineSporetacus
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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter [Re: Icelander]
    #5639880 - 05/16/06 10:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Da troot shal set you fee.




*Spore gently wipes crumbs from Icey's lips*

Bedderer?


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OfflineSporetacus
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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5639895 - 05/16/06 10:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

What about a book labeled NON-FICTION or biography or autobigraphy or history?


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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5639948 - 05/16/06 10:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

There are many books on science that purport to be objective fact, that bear little resemblance to it. Much history that is taught in schools is patently false. Our world leaders lie to their populations and change stories and no one even notices. I see these as more important issues than the validity of philosophy books. At least Castaneda's books were later labeled as fiction by his publisher to minimize controversy.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5640026 - 05/16/06 10:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

To teach about navigating reality, why not include an actual story unless it is to boost one's ego or make the story more intriguing? This shows weakness on the author's part.

Telling me a fictional story points to nothing at all.


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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5640074 - 05/16/06 10:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Whos to say whats real or fake?


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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5640079 - 05/16/06 10:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

"Telling me a fictional story points to nothing at all."
That is because you are an individual. I am not made this way. I see truth in many obviously declared works of fiction. Fiction can make one think.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5640160 - 05/16/06 11:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Sporetacus said:
The TRUTH (not The FICTION) shall set you free.



fact =/= truth


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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5640166 - 05/16/06 11:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Huehuecoyotl said:
"Telling me a fictional story points to nothing at all."
That is because you are an individual. I am not made this way. I see truth in many obviously declared works of fiction. Fiction can make one think.



Indeed. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy was a revelation to me, and it certainly doesn't matter that Arthur Dent doesn't exist.


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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter [Re: Silversoul]
    #5640178 - 05/16/06 11:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

What does =/= mean? I am familiar with != (not equal).


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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter [Re: Skeptikos]
    #5640185 - 05/16/06 11:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Skeptikos said:
What does =/= mean? I am familiar with != (not equal).



Different ways of expressing the same symbol, which is not found in its true form on a keyboard.


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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5640576 - 05/17/06 12:54 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Nimis?

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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter *DELETED* [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5640586 - 05/17/06 12:58 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Offlinekotik
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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter [Re: Lakefingers]
    #5640903 - 05/17/06 05:40 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

thanks to science we have found that simply discussing something, or being "philisophical" usually leads you far away from the path.


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Re: Fiction or non-fiction - it doesn't matter *DELETED* [Re: kotik]
    #5640911 - 05/17/06 05:50 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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