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potency query
    #5639578 - 05/16/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i made a post about this in the melbourne hunting thread but i rekon it deserves its own topic.

When a mushroom (p.sub in this case) goes heaps more blue than others and it isn't particulary more damaged, can you assume it has more active ingredients?



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Re: potency query [Re: shroomer_nick]
    #5639629 - 05/16/06 09:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Probably means that one sat in the sun longer then the other.


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    #5639641 - 05/16/06 09:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Seems like potency can vary a lot in most species.

I noticed some blue much more or are stronger than others once consumed.

Could have to do with certain locations, growing conditions, or habitat.


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Re: potency query [Re: eris]
    #5639886 - 05/16/06 10:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: potency query [Re: eris]
    #5639888 - 05/16/06 10:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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eris said:
Seems like potency can vary a lot in most species.

I noticed some blue much more or are stronger than others once consumed.

Could have to do with certain locations, growing conditions, or habitat.




yes, if I had picked them both from different spots, i would agree.

but these were both picked from the same spot. If anything the
gold one sat in the sun too long for it was already leathery when I
picked it, but the blue one was still gold, shiny & wet.

It started the hectic blueing after i picked it.
And also, im always gentle with my lil babys  :wink:


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Re: potency query [Re: shroomer_nick]
    #5640320 - 05/16/06 11:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

In one of the pan cyan grow logs, (blue helix's with Aust pans I believe) he did not notice any blueing at all, yet they were far stronger (obviously) than cubensis.

I'm beginning to believe that it is not related. Related to being active yes, but showing a factor of potency - it cant be if his pans didnt blue at all.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post4872154


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Re: potency query [Re: shroomer_nick]
    #5649275 - 05/19/06 07:42 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Blue staining is caused by the reaction between enzymes and psilocin as the enzymes oxidise the psilocin. The problem it is that its impossible to guage whether the depth of the bluing reaction is caused by more psilocin being present, more oxidisation or more enzymes being present.
Generally strong stained mushrooms can prove more potent, but sometimes they are weak as piss basically. It isnt the best quide for anything other than identification. But with cubies it may be indicative of potency.


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