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OfflineSporetacus
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Impossible thoughts - a worthless topic
    #5639458 - 05/16/06 09:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This thread is worthless because I cannot begin to describe what happened.

While coming down from a moderate shroom journey and going to sleep, an impossible thought steaked across my consciousness. It seemingly came from outside me, lasted a few milliseconds, didn't make sense and scared the hell out of me.

I was far from tripping at this point and even during my megadose journeys I never experienced anything like this - even while communicating with 'The Other' or when totally blitzed.

Was there a temporary crack in the cosmic egg when too much information leaked through all at once or am I 'losing it'?


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OfflineEquilibriuM
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Re: Impossible thoughts - a worthless topic [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5639469 - 05/16/06 09:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

What is this "impossible thought"?


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InvisibleSilversoul
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Re: Impossible thoughts - a worthless topic [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5639473 - 05/16/06 09:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Perhaps you had a moment of samsara?


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Re: Impossible thoughts - a worthless topic [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5639482 - 05/16/06 09:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

From what I know of you I would have to say that you are losing it. Please PM me if you need a friend to talk to. :heart:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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OfflineSporetacus
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Re: Impossible thoughts - a worthless topic [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5639494 - 05/16/06 09:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have no reference point through which to translate it into English.

Perhaps a bunch of neurons misfired and I tried to make sense of it.


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OfflineEquilibriuM
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Re: Impossible thoughts - a worthless topic [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5639516 - 05/16/06 09:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

can you describe what you saw felt or heard?


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OfflineSporetacus
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Re: Impossible thoughts - a worthless topic [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5639540 - 05/16/06 09:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Not really, it was like an electric shock and someone whispering something paradoxical in my ear at light speed at the same time.

Time to get back on my meds?


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OfflineEquilibriuM
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Re: Impossible thoughts - a worthless topic [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5639573 - 05/16/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You don't know what they said? What did you interpret it as? hostile? life changing? give me some kind of idea... why did it shock you? to get your attention? to hurt you?

I don't know you so I have no way of telling. What meds are you on? and for what reasons?


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Re: Impossible thoughts - a worthless topic [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5639717 - 05/16/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I know this feeling...it is very common. It means you did not take enough. Try 8 grams and see if it comes in more clear. If that fails try 10...


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Re: Impossible thoughts - a worthless topic [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5639725 - 05/16/06 09:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:rofl2: :thumbup: :thumbup:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Impossible thoughts - a worthless topic [Re: Icelander]
    #5640031 - 05/16/06 10:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I am pretty sured i have experienced this.

It is so weird, epic and intense but not altogether there... like an incredible pressure focussed in one spot but permeating your entire being? With an unsettling and incredibly unpleasant (momentary) sensation of weight?

Maybe thats something like it, but your impossible thought makes sense to me. I've had mild versions whilst tripping (ultra-rare) but the real deal was when i was a kid and sick, with a fever. Sounds like a similar thing, except these were feelings in ill hallucinations so ghoulishly awesome and incomprehensible i remember waking up with a sick heart. Fucking nightmare, like my consciousness was trapped in a machine totally beyond escape, or at the start point of a herculean (impossible) task. Nasty shit, horrible just thinking about it now actually, nasty reminiscent vision.

Whoops, went off on one a bit. But was it a bit like that?

(Joke...)

(Sick Joke..)


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Re: Impossible thoughts - a worthless topic [Re: Jackenobi]
    #5641092 - 05/17/06 07:55 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

weird, ive had a relatable experience while coming down from an incredibly intense dream on Calea Z. When I woke up there was an intense electric buzzing in my head and there were two voices in my head. One was saying something slow and calm, the other one was repeating the same thing over and over very fast and it scared the shit out of me. The only problem is, i didnt understand what they were saying or it seemed like i didnt want to accept it. it wasnt so much as these voices talking to me as thoughts being put into my head that weren't my own and i didnt have control over their presence.


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Re: Impossible thoughts - a worthless topic [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5641265 - 05/17/06 09:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:laugh:


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Re: Impossible thoughts - a worthless topic [Re: Gomp]
    #5642596 - 05/17/06 04:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

electron spin resonance :earth: :amanitajar: :rainbowdrink:


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Re: Impossible thoughts - a worthless topic [Re: fresh313]
    #5642625 - 05/17/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Like you were being spoke to :royalrainbow: :heart:


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Re: Impossible thoughts - a worthless topic [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5642959 - 05/17/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I had a similar thing, only it happened in my dreams, and is something I experienced over and over over the years, specially when I had a fever in my sleep. (no drugs)

Here is how it begins:
first a soft rythmic feeling of traveling over some kind of landscape which doesn't really have an image, but the only aspect of it is how chaotic it is, like a huge blanket, and I get disturbed when I come to wrinkled parts, and feel calm when I get to smooth parts.
It feels like traveling through the fabric of space.
During that time I feel a rythmic bumping in my head, it feels hypnotic, and as I go into chaos, and feel upset, the bumping is faster.
Then when I go into more and more chaos, suddenly something happens and I get thrown into this different surroundings where all I see is a straight line going into infinity and nothing around it but some sort of clear sky on every side. The line looks like an infinite rail, and I'm traveling on it in the same rythmic hypnotic pace, only at high speed, during this trip I get this disturbing thought that I can't describe, as if something is just not right, as if I'm not supose to be here, like I'm on the wrong side of something. It's sort of a feeling like when you are driving on the wrong side of the road and wonder when you are going to hit a car.
So I'm going at high speed and I feel VERY disturbed about what is happening, though I can't describe why, it just has nothing to do with our human logic.
It's as if going at infinite speed on this rail, but going on the wrong side, and it feels SO wrong as if the universe is melting around me.

Then it stops, and I get thrown back into floating over this giant blanket universe, and my mind calms down.

I don't know what it all means, and I've been having this same dream for years, whenever I either lie down very tired, or am having a fever.

When I was little, my mother used to tell me that during these dreams I behaved strangely, sometimes I'd breath heavy and talk something, and one time I even sat up and pointed in the dark room saying there is someone there walking in the room, though I wasn't awake and was in this trans


Pretty creepy...


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Re: Impossible thoughts - a worthless topic [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5643103 - 05/17/06 06:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Was this experience accompanied by a brief flash of light? I think I can relate to what you are trying to describe. I heard voices as well and the feeling of a neuronal shock was present too.. I cannot provide a theory of what actually occured, but it was pretty interesting, confused the hell out of me.  :crazy2:


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Re: Impossible thoughts - a worthless topic [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #5644362 - 05/17/06 11:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You know (if you're using a windows box) when a program just kinda bottoms out and crashes suddenly? And you have to stop it prematurely? One of your mental processes tried to divide by zero and what you felt was the result. I don't know what that means, but in the sense of pathways being made, strengthened and atrophying over time something happened.


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To carry yourself forward and experience myriad things is delusion. That myriad things come forth and experience themselves is awakening. -Dogen Zenji


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