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OfflineMirrorSyndrome
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Experienced Growers Please Read
    #5638403 - 05/16/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have 7+ jars of colonized WBS. I am about to give you a list of the supplies that I have. Please tell me what I should do to get the largest 
yield.

(I know to look at the Bulk Teks but i can never decide which one)

My Supplies:
5Lbs of Mycosupply Horse poo (Dried)
Unlimited amounts of straw
Oyster Shell
Coco Coir
Hydrated Lime
Vermiculite
Cool Mist Humidifier
3x Rubbermaids
Peat Moss

  :laugh: Post back if you know what i should do, I was thinking mixing the horse poo with straw and doing a double tub...

What should my casing mix be if the double tub is what i use?

I will  :heart: you forever if you post back  :thumbup:


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
    #5638429 - 05/16/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

how big are the rubermaids?


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #5638443 - 05/16/06 05:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)



pasturize poo and straw mix with colonized jars


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #5638472 - 05/16/06 05:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the tubs are 58 qt.

what about casing preschooler?


Edited by MirrorSyndrome (05/16/06 05:13 PM)


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
    #5638494 - 05/16/06 05:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I don't know why everybody is so case happy! vermiculite always gets embedded into the base of the stems making cleaning the harvest a pain. I have had great results using a mono tub without a casing layer. If your substrate dries out, dunking is always an option too.

Then again, Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one. this one just happens to be mine.  :grin:


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
    #5638508 - 05/16/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

no casing? hmmm

anybody else want to confirm that?

also, noone :mushroom2: has still yet to give me a definate answer to what i could use to grow bulk shrooms


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
    #5638515 - 05/16/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

are they clear?normaly a 60 /40 verm coir will work. just sprinkle over top until all is covered. ofcourse i would pasturize that too and only use distilled water in ur straw, poo, and in ur cool mist.

there only so much i can write im assumuing u have read bulk teks and casing teks.


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #5638525 - 05/16/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

mr n is right if u use poo u don't have to case. although ur yeids will be higgher if you case. and u have a better chance of going to second and third flushes


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #5638529 - 05/16/06 05:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah they are clear..

so if i mix the 5lbs of horse manure with straw

What straw to horse poo ratio should i use?

If i apply this to a double tub or a single tub...should i use the coolmist?

It says that no coolmist is necessary for a double tub but i am using straw and teh double tub tek only mentions using straight poo.


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
    #5638536 - 05/16/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think that 5 LBs of dried horse poo is enough for 7 qts of WBS in a double tub is it? probably not...


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
    #5638545 - 05/16/06 05:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

u don't have too. but i do. i think it goes faster. 1 quart to a gallon of poo or straw. i think the straw helps with potency and overall size of the flush


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #5638552 - 05/16/06 05:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

you will figure it out. once you start doing it. just get something that say 12 quarts or 1 gallon and measure like that. not in weight. becasue once you add water the weight changes.


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #5638577 - 05/16/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

anybody have the answer to my question about doing a double tub straw and horsepoo mix ?

What ratio of horsepoo and straw should i use?

anybody want to back up the whole coolmist thing?

Legit answers would be kindly appreciated


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
    #5638584 - 05/16/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Your best bet is to put that coir in your substrate mix and use that peat with your verm (50/50) add a little hydrated lime and the proper amount of oyster shell and use that (50/50+) to case your casing with. A casing layer will increase yields overall alot!


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
    #5638587 - 05/16/06 05:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

so mix in the coco coir with the poo and straw too?


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
    #5638626 - 05/16/06 05:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

go back and read some teks. all ur questions will be answered with studying. not trying to be an ass but thats what i had to do


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #5638659 - 05/16/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have read the teks, you dont sound like an ass but...

I thought usually the coco coir was used as a casing not as a substrate.

Also, there is no specific tek that fallows a double tub that has mixed straw and HP.


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
    #5638685 - 05/16/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Coir is better suited as a substrate rather than a casing (Fact), especially for new growers. Peats by far your best choice :thumbup:


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
    #5638927 - 05/16/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

MirrorSyndrome said:
I thought usually the coco coir was used as a casing not as a substrate.




You are right. It's usually used as a casing material. Incorrectly. Coir is a substrate. Casing with coir is like casing with manure. It doesn't make sense.
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
    #5638965 - 05/16/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Talk to Hippie Chick about building a greenhouse if you want to grow big time. If you want a simple setup that produces well, but not enough for the whole town, check out a mono or double tub setup.


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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5638968 - 05/16/06 07:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
Quote:

MirrorSyndrome said:
I thought usually the coco coir was used as a casing not as a substrate.




You are right.  It's usually used as a casing material. Incorrectly. Coir is a substrate.  Casing with coir is like casing with manure.  It doesn't make sense.
RR




Mycosense even! :wink:


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Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"


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