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MirrorSyndrome
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Experienced Growers Please Read
#5638403 - 05/16/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have 7+ jars of colonized WBS. I am about to give you a list of the supplies that I have. Please tell me what I should do to get the largest yield.
(I know to look at the Bulk Teks but i can never decide which one)
My Supplies: 5Lbs of Mycosupply Horse poo (Dried) Unlimited amounts of straw Oyster Shell Coco Coir Hydrated Lime Vermiculite Cool Mist Humidifier 3x Rubbermaids Peat Moss
Post back if you know what i should do, I was thinking mixing the horse poo with straw and doing a double tub...
What should my casing mix be if the double tub is what i use?
I will you forever if you post back
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Tomandjerry58
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
#5638429 - 05/16/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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how big are the rubermaids?
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Tomandjerry58
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#5638443 - 05/16/06 05:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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pasturize poo and straw mix with colonized jars
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MirrorSyndrome
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#5638472 - 05/16/06 05:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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the tubs are 58 qt.
what about casing preschooler?
Edited by MirrorSyndrome (05/16/06 05:13 PM)
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
#5638494 - 05/16/06 05:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't know why everybody is so case happy! vermiculite always gets embedded into the base of the stems making cleaning the harvest a pain. I have had great results using a mono tub without a casing layer. If your substrate dries out, dunking is always an option too.
Then again, Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one. this one just happens to be mine.
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MirrorSyndrome
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
#5638508 - 05/16/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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no casing? hmmm
anybody else want to confirm that?
also, noone has still yet to give me a definate answer to what i could use to grow bulk shrooms
Edited by MirrorSyndrome (05/16/06 05:24 PM)
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Tomandjerry58
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
#5638515 - 05/16/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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are they clear?normaly a 60 /40 verm coir will work. just sprinkle over top until all is covered. ofcourse i would pasturize that too and only use distilled water in ur straw, poo, and in ur cool mist.
there only so much i can write im assumuing u have read bulk teks and casing teks.
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Tomandjerry58
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#5638525 - 05/16/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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mr n is right if u use poo u don't have to case. although ur yeids will be higgher if you case. and u have a better chance of going to second and third flushes
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MirrorSyndrome
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#5638529 - 05/16/06 05:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah they are clear..
so if i mix the 5lbs of horse manure with straw
What straw to horse poo ratio should i use?
If i apply this to a double tub or a single tub...should i use the coolmist?
It says that no coolmist is necessary for a double tub but i am using straw and teh double tub tek only mentions using straight poo.
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MirrorSyndrome
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
#5638536 - 05/16/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't think that 5 LBs of dried horse poo is enough for 7 qts of WBS in a double tub is it? probably not...
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Tomandjerry58
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
#5638545 - 05/16/06 05:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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u don't have too. but i do. i think it goes faster. 1 quart to a gallon of poo or straw. i think the straw helps with potency and overall size of the flush
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Tomandjerry58
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#5638552 - 05/16/06 05:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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you will figure it out. once you start doing it. just get something that say 12 quarts or 1 gallon and measure like that. not in weight. becasue once you add water the weight changes.
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MirrorSyndrome
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#5638577 - 05/16/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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anybody have the answer to my question about doing a double tub straw and horsepoo mix ?
What ratio of horsepoo and straw should i use?
anybody want to back up the whole coolmist thing?
Legit answers would be kindly appreciated
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
#5638584 - 05/16/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Your best bet is to put that coir in your substrate mix and use that peat with your verm (50/50) add a little hydrated lime and the proper amount of oyster shell and use that (50/50+) to case your casing with. A casing layer will increase yields overall alot!
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
#5638587 - 05/16/06 05:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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so mix in the coco coir with the poo and straw too?
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Tomandjerry58
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
#5638626 - 05/16/06 05:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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go back and read some teks. all ur questions will be answered with studying. not trying to be an ass but thats what i had to do
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MirrorSyndrome
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#5638659 - 05/16/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have read the teks, you dont sound like an ass but...
I thought usually the coco coir was used as a casing not as a substrate.
Also, there is no specific tek that fallows a double tub that has mixed straw and HP.
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
#5638685 - 05/16/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Coir is better suited as a substrate rather than a casing (Fact), especially for new growers. Peats by far your best choice
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
#5638927 - 05/16/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
MirrorSyndrome said: I thought usually the coco coir was used as a casing not as a substrate.
You are right. It's usually used as a casing material. Incorrectly. Coir is a substrate. Casing with coir is like casing with manure. It doesn't make sense. RR
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Re: Experienced Growers Please Read [Re: MirrorSyndrome]
#5638965 - 05/16/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Talk to Hippie Chick about building a greenhouse if you want to grow big time. If you want a simple setup that produces well, but not enough for the whole town, check out a mono or double tub setup.
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