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OfflineOctavius
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The Dangers of Opening Doors in the Mind.
    #5637924 - 05/16/06 03:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well i've seen most of you talk about the better things can get through awareness, but never the bad side. You could consider the bad side like opening up a door to something that should never be opened. If telepathy were real and you have to be aware of it to reach it and use it, do you really want to speak telepathically for when you start to believe in it. You lose the idea of you are the only voice in your head and it becomes cluttered with other thoughts like other people's thoughts. So just in case you start beleiving in it you lose all functionality and start to trip each time you hear someone else's voice in your head. When you become to indepth and you start to think about your bodily movements and synchronisity and the flow of things you become interuppted by those thoughts which once flowed naturally and now if you are opened you stumble each time you think of it.

It's almost like you have lost your way.

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Re: The Dangers of Opening Doors in the Mind. [Re: Octavius]
    #5637991 - 05/16/06 03:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

When one approaches this subject it should be done in the spirit of full responsibility for one's actions. Those who experience problems are trying to deny the self.

"A man goes to knowledge as he goes to war: wide-awake, with fear, with respect, and with absolute assurance. Going to knowledge or going to war in any other manner is a mistake, and whoever makes it might never live to regret it."


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Re: The Dangers of Opening Doors in the Mind. [Re: Octavius]
    #5638002 - 05/16/06 03:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have never seen a "bad side" to awareness. Maybe you are refering to something else. Opening up to energies you are not ready to handle ( a lack of awareness) can cause problems. That seems to happen to some.

What you are describing may be an unhealthy attachment to what you are becomming aware of.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: The Dangers of Opening Doors in the Mind. [Re: Icelander]
    #5638105 - 05/16/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Awareness equates with reality. The more one reflects reality, the less possible it is for any negative attributes to be present within one's mind.

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Re: The Dangers of Opening Doors in the Mind. [Re: Octavius]
    #5638116 - 05/16/06 03:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Octavius said:
Well i've seen most of you talk about the better things can get through awareness, but never the bad side. You could consider the bad side like opening up a door to something that should never be opened. If telepathy were real and you have to be aware of it to reach it and use it, do you really want to speak telepathically for when you start to believe in it. You lose the idea of you are the only voice in your head and it becomes cluttered with other thoughts like other people's thoughts. So just in case you start beleiving in it you lose all functionality and start to trip each time you hear someone else's voice in your head. When you become to indepth and you start to think about your bodily movements and synchronisity and the flow of things you become interuppted by those thoughts which once flowed naturally and now if you are opened you stumble each time you think of it.

It's almost like you have lost your way.

Peace and well-being,
Octavius




Sounds like indulgence.


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Re: The Dangers of Opening Doors in the Mind. [Re: Octavius]
    #5638749 - 05/16/06 06:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

telepathy is not such a forbidden thing.
however, voices in the head are a thing not to be trifled about, or misconstrued.
did a tv show or movie suggest telepathy is like voices in the head?
there's hollywood for you.
voices in the head are from the self.
telepathy is not voices in the head even if you did see it in a movie.

Once you get started with voices in the head you have to understand them for what they are.

after that, the question might be,"can they be used constructively??"

well, yes in a limited way, like proxies, or like algebra.
proxies are common in primitive magic.
charms, wands, magic jewelery, all symbollic of something else.
often devoid of any magic - especially when invested with superstitious beliefs instead of their original proxy purpose.

raindances, chicken entrails, sheep sacrifices, tea leaves, you name it all are proxies for reaching the infinite, place holders for what cannot be expressed in this realm.

as for crossing the line and never coming back.
that is par for the course, same as it everwas.


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Re: The Dangers of Opening Doors in the Mind. [Re: Octavius]
    #5639050 - 05/16/06 07:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have pretty mixed feelings about this.

I have opened doors that seemed interesting at first. After a while though it starts to scare a person.

You begin to wonder just how sane you are.

So it can be good sometimes, and it can be very frightening other times.


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Re: The Dangers of Opening Doors in the Mind. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5639161 - 05/16/06 07:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

What are they for?


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Re: The Dangers of Opening Doors in the Mind. [Re: Icelander]
    #5640325 - 05/16/06 11:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Icelander said:
I have never seen a "bad side" to awareness. Maybe you are refering to something else. Opening up to energies you are not ready to handle ( a lack of awareness) can cause problems. That seems to happen to some.

What you are describing may be an unhealthy attachment to what you are becomming aware of.




i think he is referring to the latter (think of the beatles song "help!". timothy leary posed the question "what causes some people to shy away from new levels of intelligence?"

i believe when using drugs its possible to open your mind up to things you are not yet ready to deal with and this can cause major problems. slow and steady wins the race.


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Re: The Dangers of Opening Doors in the Mind. [Re: Octavius]
    #5640613 - 05/17/06 01:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Who am I to loose my way? When was I the only voice in my head? And who am I to say on which levels I do and do not have telepathy?

As soon as telepathy becomes an all-encompassing reality for the mind the possibility of telepathy will be lost, because there will be no possibility of the duality of telepathy vs. non-telepathy: what makes telepathy interesting is that it is not fully possible -- therefore we contemplate it in our lack and partial accomplishment thereof.


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Re: The Dangers of Opening Doors in the Mind. [Re: Cherk]
    #5640868 - 05/17/06 05:08 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Smoker For Peace said:
What are they for?



assuming this is a question for tme about voices in the head.
1. substantive reccollection and review of what has happenned.
2. helping to focus on a thought, or logical problem.
3. orienting the self to a future conversation.
4. modelling or playing out a scene.
5. deriving a comfort of adding solidity to something unattainable.
6. what else can you use a voice in your head for, reminders? enhanced caution's, singing...


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