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Offlineblowback
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Revelations 2:17
    #5637422 - 05/16/06 01:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"To those who win the victory I will give the hidden manna"

Revelations 2:7

"To those who win the victory I will give the right to eat the fruit of the tree of live that grows in the garden of God"

I suppose this means that to those who see past societies lies, one will understand the connection of the mushroom to the heavenly god.


Thoughts?


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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: blowback]
    #5637481 - 05/16/06 01:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:rofl2: :stars:


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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: Icelander]
    #5637542 - 05/16/06 01:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
:rofl2: :stars:




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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: Icelander]
    #5637839 - 05/16/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You assume manna are mushrooms

Here is something more about manna

Old testament is pretty much a short version of Jewish texts.
In Torah (or Zorah) there is more word about manna.

In the days when Jewish folks were in the desert, the god gave them something that was called "Aincient of days" or the "Aincient one", which Jews saw as something of a godly creature, though it didn't move, it didn't talk, it didn't do anything, It was supose to be carried by people through the desert. It's structure was clearly described in the Jewish texts, it seemed to consist of many parts.
The thing, as it is described in their texts could be taken to parts and reassembled wherever the Jews would camp.

It's job was making manna. Manna is something that came out of this "Aincient of days" , and they were eating the stuff.

Well whatever this manna was, it was being manufactured in this object called "Aincient of days"

The parts of this thing were described through analogy of organs, but it mentions some kind of oil running through its veins through chambers and all kinds of parts with their function all working to make manna.

Sounds like a manna making machine to me, but whatever it is, it made manna, and it didn't grow between anyones toes.


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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5638481 - 05/16/06 05:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hhmm... sounds like a pressure cooker to me.

:smirk:

Also, do you care to reference such an excerpt from the Bible? It was my limited understanding that manna fell from the sky. :confused:

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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: blowback]
    #5638501 - 05/16/06 05:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the ultimate victory is when one defeats the evil inside.

you are your own opponent.

when light triumphs over darkness inside you, then you will know the fruit of God.


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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5638614 - 05/16/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The "Ancient of Days" is a Name of the God of the Old Testament. Mystic poet William Blake used this Name often in his writings. Like most of scriptural writings, spiritual principles are personified or objectified.


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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: blowback]
    #5638635 - 05/16/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hebrews didn't eat mushrooms as part of Kosher dietary practices. Something growing out of animal turds was not going to be consumed by middle eastern peoples in general (even pre-Islamic nomadic Arabs). Moreover, to reduce Hebrew myth and religion to psychedelic experience is really stretching things, despite author Daniel Merkur who even suggested that the 'shewbread' in the Holy of Holies, in the tabernacle in the desert, was grown through with ergot, the lysergic acid content of which allowed Aaron and Moses to go out and 'see the glory of the LORD.'


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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #5638647 - 05/16/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Indeed. One problem I find with many psychedelic users is they have trouble believing that people can have mystical experiences without the assistance of drugs.


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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5638713 - 05/16/06 06:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

fireworks_god said:
Hhmm... sounds like a pressure cooker to me.

:smirk:

Also, do you care to reference such an excerpt from the Bible? It was my limited understanding that manna fell from the sky. :confused:

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Peace. :mushroom2:




Here it is, in the book of Zohar:

http://www.harbour.sfu.ca/~hayward/van/glossary/ancient.html

lots of references there.

Of course nowhere will you find it being described as a machine, but it did seem to be an inanimate object, which was moved around and taken into parts, the parts were cleaned on every Sabath.


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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #5638723 - 05/16/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

MarkostheGnostic said:
The "Ancient of Days" is a Name of the God of the Old Testament. Mystic poet William Blake used this Name often in his writings. Like most of scriptural writings, spiritual principles are personified or objectified.




Well, what can I say exept search and you'll see that its the name used for this manna making thing.

Maybe it was used as the name of the god, but it is specifically used as the name for that thing


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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5638760 - 05/16/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Here are some more texts about it:

http://www.mystae.com/streams/science/machine2.html
http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/scripts/machine.html

The first link even features an image of the thing if it were to be understood as a mechanical device.


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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5638964 - 05/16/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Manna is the word for energy itself in the Huna Philosophy of Spiritual Wisdom who's legends of its teachings origins goes back to Lemuria which pre dates recorded history. It's like Ki or Chi or Prana.

Huna Spirituality is awesome stuff. ALOOOOOOOHA! :cool:  I'm surprised its never been brought up here to my recollection. I'm glad to be reminded to give it some more study myself.

The machine you are talking about sounds like a metaphor for our own bodies and meridian grids to me.

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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5639014 - 05/16/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That's a WIERD metaphore then


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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5639243 - 05/16/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Whats wierd is, after I made that reply, I read octavious's post and tried to dig up a web-site I had found a bit back on psionic mind control technology and ended up at a site about other stuff where I just read that monoatomic white gold was used to make a bread where the ancients got their extra manna "energy" from.

That bread may be the "manna food" if it is presented as food in other literature and the monoatomic white gold powder is the source of the energy. Powerful stuff and I'd stay away from it too.

Perhaps the machine you have been reading about is one that made the gold powder and or the bread.

Here is the bit. Ormus is another name for the powder.

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Ormus is also the Hebrew words for “golden tree”, which David finds appropriate since this white gold is the elixir of life that the sho-bread (& manna) was made from. This is said to be the reason the Priest glowed when he came out of the Holy of Holies, after eating the sho-bread


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:shrug:

I just realised too that the Huna word for it is spelled with only one n. Not sure if that is relevant to anything or not.

How wierd that a search for another unrelated post brought me to more info on this one. :confused:

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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: blowback]
    #5641325 - 05/17/06 09:53 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

As far as I see, and if it's related to the tree of life, then it is simply the superfood, which lets you never die, as it best and completely feeds ones body with 'health'. The 'winners' will not have to die anymore in the end.
The fruit of the tree of knowledge will feed ones mind :wink:


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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5641356 - 05/17/06 10:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the door of all essence is death

awww, did you think it was something else?

don't flatter yourself.

personally, I think its fun to die.

don't get me wrong, I would hate for my current incarnation to come to an end while there is still work to be done and fun to be had, but death is actually quite enjoyable when you get used to it.

do you really want to stay in the same body forever?


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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5641453 - 05/17/06 10:52 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The door of all essence is in birth as well.

Essence always is.

Death and Birth are just doorways in the corridors of time.

Eternal life is about The One, being re-membered in the self, not the physical body. It's about never having to fall into forgetfulness and separation from the One again,  incarnate or not.

Just my understanding on the subject of what eternal life means.

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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5641648 - 05/17/06 11:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

DoctorJ said:
do you really want to stay in the same body forever?




Why not?

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Re: Revelations 2:17 [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5641686 - 05/17/06 12:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

don't you want to know what its like to be a woman?

they have the run of this Luciferian world, you know.


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