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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: CerebralFlower]
    #6286893 - 11/15/06 05:44 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Funny, I just posted this in a thread about schizophrenia about 1 minute ago. I guess it would apply to this lsd vs mushrooms thread(the 100th lsd vs mushrooms thread).


Mushrooms have a sort of personality, a sort of otherworldly feel.
Damn near magical. They pick you up and drop you off where ever they want. Ego loss on mushrooms could be a real bitch for a potential schizophrenic because you cant see it coming. It just happens. With lsd,for me and others that I know and even people I have talked to here, you know where you are going and you see it coming, you work with it personally.

Lsd keeps your neat little package together yet you can still trip very hard. Lsd, I guess for me, is more self analytical, process oriented, geometric, and less cyclical, curved/limitless, undefinable and "out there"..... Basically its mindblowing in a whole different way. A way that is more based in this world and your "self".

I have never puked from mushrooms, but I still consider them to be MUCH harder on my body than lsd. For me, mushroms are like psychedelic speed with a heavy body high. Lsd is more electric, and feels more at home when I ingest it although at a high enough dose, it sure as hell makes my heart rate much faster even when anxiety is not involved in any way.


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: CerebralFlower]
    #6286910 - 11/15/06 05:56 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

im a BIG fan of both mushrooms and lsd...

but i prefer mushrooms as they are natural, i prefer the visuals too, everything warping and moving, nice colours.

also the whole ritual of picking and then consuming my own makes it so much more enjoyable :hehehe:

my favorite visual effect is pixelated vision, like seeing everything in squares or grids.
i get that from lsd and mushrooms so its all good in my opinion :thumbup:


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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #6286929 - 11/15/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

One of my favorite visions is the so called golden spiral layered upon its self. The geometry involved is amazing. Sacred geometry......

Lsd connot produce this effect for me. Dmt related substances do though, every time. The first time I used ayahuasca and the first time I used mushrooms at a high dose this vortex made of the fibonacci sequence amazed me so very much.

After my first ayahuasca trip I made almost this exact drawing but in color.---> http://www.aadm.com/cydonia/small_fib.gif

a variation of the golden spiral.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.


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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: kaniz]
    #6502884 - 01/27/07 06:42 PM (17 years, 5 days ago)

Mushrooms. Nothing worth mentioning happens to me on LSD. Also, it's taken me on average 12 hits just to get into a state where I know I'm tripping, but still no hallucinations or enlightenment, only anxiousness and paranoia. At the same time a friend would happily be tripping off of 1. But I can say LSD is more electric which I'm not wild about either. Mushrooms are an all-natural straight out of the ground kind of a deal, always work within the vicinity of regular dosages, and are much more enjoyable..but again, that is compared to my disappointing LSD experiences. At the same time LSD used to be or can sometimes still be much cheaper, so if they work for you that's a major plus right there if you ask me.


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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: elbisivni]
    #6502955 - 01/27/07 07:09 PM (17 years, 5 days ago)

Thats really weird that you need so much LSD - and dont even fully trip at that. Even with the weakest blotter I've gotten, 3 hits would give me OEVs/CEVs, and 6 would be a solid trip.

Guess everyone is wired a little differently, a friend of mine needs about 2x the dose of mushrooms than me to start 'tripping', and even then he doesnt get visuals/etc.

I can take 2.5g, have a nice trip - he'll be on 5g and hardly getting any visuals, and this happens consitantly across various batches of shrooms, so its not like its just a fluke.


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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: kaniz]
    #6503012 - 01/27/07 07:43 PM (17 years, 5 days ago)

Right, from what I've been told anti-psychotic medications can cause such this, but I'm on nothing. Plus this has been across 5 or 6 batches, 4 of which had been quality ensured. A big part of the paranoia I experience is "What if they do work to their full extent this time, if I'm 12 in, what am I in for?" So when I get a batch I go 3-8-12 over a month just to make sure. But the potency of LSD has gone down a lot. That may be an understatement. But you hear more and more about people taking around 6 to trip well no?

A number of friends and family have described their LSD hallucinations as being dramatically different from those on mushrooms, as well as a distinct but not extreme difference between each experience. The general consensus tends to be: LSD - more electric, edge of your seat, party experience, Mushrooms - more natural, laid back and spiritual. This is just amongst them though, I've heard many other descriptions from other folks I do not know directly.


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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: yageman]
    #6692008 - 03/20/07 04:08 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Just a reminder to post LSD vs Mushroom questions in this thread. The topic comes up often and would rather keep as much information as possible in this thread.


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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: kaniz]
    #6692404 - 03/20/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

How about the visuals on each? I prefer mushroom visuals over LSD visuals.

LSD visuals seem more geometric and like it wants to be squared off and mathematically correct, whereas shrooms like to bend and warp thins and colors for me. Shrooms have more silly visuals i guess is what im saying.

I love both visual aspects but i'll take shroom visuals over acid visuals any day.


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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: Drewwyann]
    #6692990 - 03/20/07 08:39 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Mushrooms > Acid


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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: elbisivni]
    #6693020 - 03/20/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

The amount of LSD considered an average dose has gone down since the 60's. I've seen several reputable sources over the years state the average dose back in the day was around 200 ug, while a modern dose is more in line with 50-70 ug. This would correlate with people taking six or more blotters, where people used to take one and a half.


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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: toastdth]
    #6693146 - 03/20/07 09:16 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

What are the physical side-effects of LSD and Shrooms? Nothing will deter me from doing them , but still, I'm curious as to how bad they are for you physically.


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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: Drewwyann]
    #6693147 - 03/20/07 09:17 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: Mokshaguy390]
    #6693173 - 03/20/07 09:23 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Mokshaguy390 said:
What are the physical side-effects of LSD and Shrooms? Nothing will deter me from doing them , but still, I'm curious as to how bad they are for you physically.




Zilch, unless you jump out a window or something similar. And you're more likely to jump out a window/damage yourself while drunk than you are while hallucinating.


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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: toastdth]
    #6693184 - 03/20/07 09:28 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

This is common knowledge, but either way, I was talking about how I get only the slightest threshold effects off of a dozen or more doses while a friend trips happily off of 1 (and even gets noticeable visuals off of 1/4 :what:).


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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: elbisivni]
    #6694599 - 03/21/07 08:31 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Hi all,
It'a very interesting thread, I am using shrooms for the last 5 years more as a spiritual and psychological guide to know who I am and learn from it. I think I done like 7-9 times a year (full dose) I am not counting below 1.5-2g because it's not realy a trip.
I am using 5.5-6g (this is what's good to my weight 74kg) for a full trip. more then that will not do any change in my experience.
I have notice that in every trip I have different experience it's depent first of all on my mental condition. you may have the same experience for few time but as the time pass and you grow and you life is changing the experience will change with it.
Some time I had hard times and dark trips but these trips will teach you the most if you are willing to see why and what make you feel that way.
In my point of view the mushrooms are taking you the the place you need to be and to learn you just need to be aware.

I didn't tried LSD, but I will when I will find a good pure source and have the time to be free for 2 days to do that.

thanks you all for your knowledge and sharing
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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: kaniz]
    #6694945 - 03/21/07 11:12 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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High dose: Unignorable visuals, intense removal of previous constraints of the mind. The user feels very aware of themselves and enjoys conversation. Deep, focused talks. Ability to manipulate some physical feeling from time to time. 10/10
Crazy dose: Visuals become insane. Things take on irregular forms, mindfuck completely established. Diminishing of onesself as a simple and insignificant being can and will (eventually) happen on one of these trips. 9/10 for the less experienced users.




The higher the dose, the less words you should have to use to explain it. I don't believe a "Crazy dose" can be rated, or even described, it should just be considered "Ego-loss". I believe a "Very High dosage" would be feasible, or one even above- "Immense optical, cognitive, and/or sensory distortion."


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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: Abrainspot]
    #8660872 - 07/20/08 09:32 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

iv taken shrooms 6-7 times and acid once i got a research chemical  i think cause he said u needed a hole 10 strip to get high after i baught 5 for 50$ and split it with a friend i live in ct i dont think theres any real acid here because every one says they could get it but its always from the same guy


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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: boomersrgreat420]
    #8661058 - 07/20/08 10:35 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I'll take the little fungus anyday over cid i like the walls moving and the carpet swirling type visaul where as.

Drewwyann said above  "LSD visuals seem more geometric and like it wants to be squared off and mathematically correct,"

i like the cartooness of shrooms and the more free flow of them. though the last cid i had the my car was all warped and melting awesome thing to see


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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: kaniz]
    #8661331 - 07/20/08 11:43 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

For me, LSD and psiloc(yb)in offer experiences which are only marginally different.

There are two major differences between LSD and shrooms.
(1) LSD lasts around 12 hours and psilocin about 6 hours.
(2) LSD often has more of a pronounced stimulant effect.

Every other difference I have noticed between LSD and shroooms is subtle enough that I do indeed wonder if I would perceive it at all, if the substance were unknown to me.  However, there are some qualities where I have found slight variations:

The geometrical patterns produced by LSD tend to be far more complex and display higher symmetry than with shrooms. 

I'll have to get back on this one.  The differences are too subtle.  I have the feeling of describing something that I think I can only see through a microscope, when I'm squinting, and maybe I'm not seeing it at all.

I just don't see the differences.  I have 5HT2A agonist blindness.

I really don't know what to make of it when people think they can sum up the differences by saying that shrooms are spiritual and acid is intellecutal or that shrooms = race car where you're out of control and LSD = space ship where you are in control.  Those are metaphors that can have a BROAD range of interpretation. 


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Re: The Definitive LSD vs Mushrooms Thread [Re: Plasmid]
    #8661540 - 07/21/08 12:48 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Acid. Always. Gives. Me. Visuals. (Even when it's just one hit).

Shrooms, not every time, and even when they do, it's inconsistent. Even if shrooms always did give me visuals, I prefer acid anyways simply because I find the designs, swirling, bleeding to all be amazing. A fleck of bright paint on an otherwise neutral-color wall has infinite beauty when I'm on acid.

As far as the body load, acid feels heavier to me. I really enjoy the body high, even though I sweat more than I do on shrooms.

And the duration can be both a blessing and a curse for acid. on one hand, it's like, "Yeah, I can spend an entire day in another universe!" and it feels great, like I'm going on an epic journey. Go hiking with some friends when you're tabbed out, and I guarantee you'll feel like the Fellowship of the Ring hoofing it out to Mordor. However, you don't always have a full day to trip, and here's where the shrooms are nice.

I've only recently decided I liked acid more. It's also more readily available in my area (unless I am growing my own shrooms of course).


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