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vintage_gonzo
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benefits of a double tub vs monotub
#5634086 - 05/15/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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They do the same exact thing correct? The setup is the same with holes drilled close to the substarte and one drilled near the top for air exchange so why add the second tub, why not just use a monotub?
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Re: benefits of a double tub vs monotub [Re: vintage_gonzo]
#5634231 - 05/15/06 06:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you choose a large enough tub and use it as a monotub, there will be more than enough space for air exchange. It's my personal experience that a monotub done correctly is just as effective as a doubletub, there doesn't seem to be a difference.
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Re: benefits of a double tub vs monotub [Re: Holydiver]
#5636821 - 05/16/06 09:32 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm gonna be setting up my mono tub really soon now but I was wondering about the placement of the top holes. The tub I have is not that big and I believe I read in Wronguy's DT pictorial that you want at least like 6-8" inches between the holes. Including my approximate substrate+casing depth of 3-4" as well as an inch between this and the first holes (plus the 1" hole diameter) I think I can just squeeze in 6" between the holes, but its gonna be a real tight fit.
I figured maybe it would be better in this case where vertical height is an issue to put the top holes in the lid of the rubbermaid rather than on the sides. Common sense tells me that it would be pretty much the exact same thing, but I'm just asking this anyway in case someone happens to have personal bad experiences with holes in the lid of a mono tub...
Edited by iamyour_messiah (05/16/06 09:33 AM)
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Toad666
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Re: benefits of a double tub vs monotub [Re: iamyour_messiah]
#5637055 - 05/16/06 11:22 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I prefer Mono tub. The reason simply being that you use less tubs and can use those to create other fruiting chambers. I heat mine with a heating pad so i don't need the extra tub filled with water. I first got the idea of the mono tub based on a kit that was sold at www.mushbox.com It was called the MYG kit. I had bought that for my first time so i really get the growing part down. It was really easy to get started and pretty cheap too.I was able to get nice flushes before ever getting contams. Anyways, getting back to monotub. I get my humidity from a Tropicaire humidifier that i keep outside of the chamber. I think i have a link for the design right here: http://www.shroomtalk.com/mushroom/forum6/26.html Enjoy guys!
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Re: benefits of a double tub vs monotub [Re: Toad666]
#5637126 - 05/16/06 11:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just what toad said, but more specifically that's all the 2nd tub is used for - to control temperature. If you have wildly flucuating temps, use one - otherwise used the extra space for a bigger monotub!
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Re: benefits of a double tub vs monotub [Re: Toad666]
#5637207 - 05/16/06 12:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Toad666 said: I prefer Mono tub. The reason simply being that you use less tubs and can use those to create other fruiting chambers. I heat mine with a heating pad so i don't need the extra tub filled with water. I first got the idea of the mono tub based on a kit that was sold at www.mushbox.com It was called the MYG kit. I had bought that for my first time so i really get the growing part down. It was really easy to get started and pretty cheap too.I was able to get nice flushes before ever getting contams. Anyways, getting back to monotub. I get my humidity from a Tropicaire humidifier that i keep outside of the chamber. I think i have a link for the design right here: http://www.shroomtalk.com/mushroom/forum6/26.html Enjoy guys!
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iamyour_messiah
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Re: benefits of a double tub vs monotub [Re: FooMan]
#5641184 - 05/17/06 08:51 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hmm well thanks for letting me know that mono tubs work!! (already knew that )
....but what I was actually asking was if these was anyone who had some experience with putting the top set of holes in the lid of the tub rather than on the sides. But it's cool... I just followed my inuition and have already made the holes in the lid. So even if there does happen to be a drawback to doing it this way, too late now!!
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Re: benefits of a double tub vs monotub [Re: iamyour_messiah]
#5641197 - 05/17/06 08:57 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The reason you have holes on the sides is that the bottom ones leak out the CO2 and the top alow for FAE. This way you maintain a constant FAE ststus without having to fan.
It is recomended that you have either tub in room with either a icolating fan or sealing fan to help move the air around. Don't point ti at the tub for the fact it might dry your sub out.
BTW I have done mono & DT with the same results. I have also used hpoo and more recently Critter country. Hpoo works fine and cridder countr is still comming along, in my sig if you want to check it out.
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Re: benefits of a double tub vs monotub [Re: iamyour_messiah]
#5641279 - 05/17/06 09:33 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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iamyour_messiah said: The tub I have is not that big and I believe I read in Wronguy's DT pictorial that you want at least like 6-8" inches between the holes.
I had no idea Wronguy did a DT pictorial. Happen to have a link?
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Re: benefits of a double tub vs monotub [Re: Edgekrusher]
#5641308 - 05/17/06 09:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: benefits of a double tub vs monotub [Re: Wronguy]
#5641354 - 05/17/06 10:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: benefits of a double tub vs monotub [Re: Holydiver]
#5641872 - 05/17/06 01:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Holydiver said: If you choose a large enough tub and use it as a monotub, there will be more than enough space for air exchange. It's my personal experience that a monotub done correctly is just as effective as a doubletub, there doesn't seem to be a difference.
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Re: benefits of a double tub vs monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#5641906 - 05/17/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok well this doesn't matter too much anymore at this point, but maybe with those pics posted above I can explain what I was actually asking from the beginning but never actually got an answer too.
In that first pic ohmatic posted you see the bottom "poly-filled" holes, and the top ones. Both the top and bottom holes are on the side of the tub.
I placed the top set of holes in the LID of my monotub, rather than on the sides as in the picture. What I was asking (although I understand I didnt ask the first question in this thread which does happen to pertain to the benefits of a DT vs a mono tub) had nothing to do with whether a mono tub was any less good than a double tub. I simply wanted to know if anyone else had even put the top set of holes in the lid, rather than on the sides. And if so, does it make any difference to the way the air gets exchanged or the final results. My guess is no it doesn't, which is why I went ahead and made the holes in the top anyway...but still would be cool if somebody could tell me: "Yes I've done that, and no it doesn't make a difference"
Edited by iamyour_messiah (05/17/06 01:24 PM)
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Re: benefits of a double tub vs monotub [Re: iamyour_messiah]
#5642020 - 05/17/06 01:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey Nunbuh, what do you do about holes for the air to escape, top, bottom? I like your idea. Oh n' iamyourmessiah ive seen pics of a number of people doing it, it seems to just be preference.
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Re: benefits of a double tub vs monotub [Re: psillyrabit]
#5642300 - 05/17/06 03:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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obviously it doesn't make a difference beucase the holes are one a few cm apart. as long as you have holes also down at the level of teh casing your find. these are teh important ones because the drain off teh heavyer then air CO2. tops holes just creat a circulation like opening windows on both ends of your house works far better then having a bunch of open windows only on one side.
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Re: benefits of a double tub vs monotub [Re: skeletor]
#5734464 - 06/10/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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thanks for that post Toad,
and FooManShroom, lol dont' be mad because www.mushbox.com has reliable products guaranteed, and service that inspires our customers to promote our website.
Nobody is a "mushbox puppet" but its pretty funny you would think we have that kind of power. thanks for the compliment! all hail the mushbox magic, or you will become a PUPPET! muahahahhahaha...
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Edited by mush_box (06/10/06 02:22 PM)
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Re: benefits of a double tub vs monotub [Re: mush_box]
#5734482 - 06/10/06 02:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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mush_box said: thanks for that post Toad,
and FooManShroom, lol dont' be mad because www.mushbox.com has reliable products guaranteed, and service that inspires our customers to promote our website.
Nobody is a "mushbox puppet" but its pretty funny you would think we have that kind of power. thanks for the compliment! all hail the mushbox magic, or you will become a PUPPET! muahahahhahaha...
joking.. lol.
Why would I be mad? I've got nothing to gain or lose from how much business you do. It doesn't take any "power" to be a puppet, you just login under another name and/or IP address. There just seemed to be quite a few posters that only posted once or twice with unbelievable praise of your product around the same time as this (old) post.
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