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OfflineToader
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Hello all, and Ayahuasca question
    #5619086 - 05/11/06 09:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hi im new here, but ive used this site for a while and i finally have a question. Ive smoked alot of weed ( i live in Humboldnt county and so theres alot grown around were i live) and ive smoked salvia extract and of course eaten plenty of shrooms. Now i think its time for something new and i cant get ahold of any mescaline and i dont trust the acid around me, so ive decided on dmt,more specificaly Ayahuasca. I can get most of the ingredients over the net but i was wondering if anyone had a good recipe or directions for brewing it. Am i right in thining this is a good thing to try?
p.s. Most the recipes ive seen are for fresh ingredients but all i could get is dried, Thanks.


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Re: Hello all, and Ayahuasca question [Re: Toader]
    #5619162 - 05/11/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.ayahuasca.com/

:laugh:

welcome to the shroomery.


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Re: Hello all, and Ayahuasca question [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5619173 - 05/11/06 09:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Welcome!!


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Re: Hello all, and Ayahuasca question [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5619381 - 05/11/06 10:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Alright id already seen that sight but i did find some new info on it second time around. A second question i had about it (and i ask it here instead of there because i dont wanna deal with joining another site) is what is the difference in the trip between takeing straight dmt and drinking the brew? Are they for the most part the same or is it a completely different experience?


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Invisiblethedudenj
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Re: Hello all, and Ayahuasca question [Re: Toader]
    #5619683 - 05/11/06 11:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

its hard to say it really depends every tea differs alot every tea experience is completely differnt.


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Re: Hello all, and Ayahuasca question [Re: thedudenj]
    #5619748 - 05/12/06 12:12 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

straight DMT should be smoked as it cannot be metabolized in the stomach without an MAOI (correct me if i am wrong).
the tea will have longer effects. it will be intense and i would try another psychadelic before this one. either way enjoy!


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Re: Hello all, and Ayahuasca question [Re: IWalkedOnTheMoon]
    #5619969 - 05/12/06 01:43 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I know theres a difference between smoking dmt and eating Ayahuasca but theres also a difference between smoking ganja and eating borwnies but either way its still weed. What i meant was do they effect you like completely different hollucinagems or just variations of the same thing. And also i have done plenty of shrooms and salvia so im not coming into this a psychodelic virgin.


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Re: Hello all, and Ayahuasca question [Re: Toader]
    #5620339 - 05/12/06 08:14 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I have never done ayahuasca, but I have smoked freebase DMT. so anything about aya is what I have heard or read.

its nothing like the difference between smoking and eating weed.

first of all, the duration is very different. smoked DMT lasts only 15-20 minutes. and the first 3-5 minutes are the peak... which is the true "DMT state"... where you can be literally in a different dimension if you smoked enough. your eyes will usually be closed at this time and you will be basically unconscious. after that, you will have 10-15 minutes of open eye visuals, not unlike what you get on mushrooms.

ayahuasca lasts 5-7 hrs I believe, and is very similar to mushrooms. possilbly more intense, and it is supposed to have its own "personality". also remember that ayahuasca will cause you to purge. it is a part of the experience. you will feel like absolute shit for the first 3 hours, and puke alot. then you will get a really nice trip.

aya is much more serious and spiritual than freebase DMT. freebase DMT is a really fun, "holy shit" kind of experience, not unlike bungee jumping or something (except with no chance of hurting yourself)


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Invisiblethedudenj
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Re: Hello all, and Ayahuasca question [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5620379 - 05/12/06 08:38 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

ayahuasca depends on who and how its made cause you need soul as for smoking it free base is very similar deffinatly not as good. But yeah aya is like shrooms but not in a 2 years of studying it i have to say its still very hard to describe other then by sharing it via giving someone a trip off it


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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours


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Re: Hello all, and Ayahuasca question [Re: thedudenj]
    #5620501 - 05/12/06 09:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Just curious, does anyone know how much it usually cost for the ingredients to prepare a few potent doses?


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Re: Hello all, and Ayahuasca question [Re: Dr_Thunda]
    #5627742 - 05/14/06 09:27 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

look on the link I posted. calculate yourself.

lazy bum :laugh:


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Invisiblethedudenj
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Re: Hello all, and Ayahuasca question [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5631556 - 05/15/06 07:35 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yeah but i could make 10 strong doses with 30grams mimosa ha ha ha


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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours


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Re: Hello all, and Ayahuasca question [Re: thedudenj]
    #5631661 - 05/15/06 08:38 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

(These are given in one dose measurements. Please adjust accordingly):

Mimosa hostilis from the Amazonian region via North American Entheogen supply. If pure root bark is used then 8 grams finely ground to a powder or stringy fiber is sufficient. If some of the root is mixed with the bark, then adjust the dosage to 12 grams. The magic is more concentrated in the root bark although the whole root does contain some.

Syrian rue. 3 grams finely powdered via grinder or mortar and pestle. The seeds are difficult to grind and much effort is needed. The finer the powder the better.

Distilled water treated with the juice of a lemon and 250 mg of crushed ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) is sufficient to produce an acidic aqueous solution.

Place the bark and seed powder in a small stainless steel pot and bring to a low boil (barely 100 degrees C) over an open fire (with careful attention and prayer) or a hot stove (also with careful attention and prayer). Stir the brew frequently and allow to boil for about 20 minutes. More prepared acidic water should be added as needed to keep the liquid from completely boiling off. Then decant the brew and strain through a fine wire mesh. Coffee filters are too fine, but cheesecloth, panty hose, or 'permanent coffee filters' work well. Press the mush and try to squeeze out as much liquid as possible. This can be accomplished with cheesecloth or an old fashioned rag, like a cloth diaper.

Boil the mush again in the prepared water and repeat the process for a total of three times. Combine the liquids and slowly simmer to a reasonable, drinkable amount. Observe the usual dietary precautions before drinking the brew. Some prefer to sip slowly, others to down the beverage as quickly as possible. The slow sipping probably reduces nausea although it prolongs the onset and lessens the intensity.

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I used that recipe from erowid a few weeks ago with my friend. He took a big gulp right away and puked his guts out 10 minutes later. He does have a pretty weak stomach, though. I slowly sipped mine and got about 3/4 of it down....and kept it down. I had an upset stomach for a few hours, but I could feel the drug being digested and onsetting in waves. At first it felt a lot like acid, then mushrooms, then it warped into something COMPLETELY different.

Treat ayahuasca with respect. I think if I'd finished my dose I would have been thrown into a level 4-5 trip for several hours. I felt like I was right on the edge of being thrust into something very intense. Please observe the careful attention and prayer part of the recipe, as it is very important.

For my dose I used the juice of 2 lemons for each boiling and some bottled water. I would reccommend (as it's what I did for my friends dose, his came out stronger) using bottled lemon juice and a gallon jug of distilled water to create the acidic solution. He got far more of the active ingredients out.

Ayahuasca and DMT are NOT party drugs, and this isn't a recreational trip. Don't try to make it into one.


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Invisiblethedudenj
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Re: Hello all, and Ayahuasca question [Re: ezsefix]
    #5632267 - 05/15/06 12:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yeah thats not necessarily true btw country time lemon aid works better then vitamin C cause the fill that stuff with it i only had to strain the plants once cause it was such a strong acid tho i really dont approve of using commercial stuff to make it use fresh squeezed lemons and magic


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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours


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