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OfflineSporetacus
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What I look for in a Teacher
    #5630846 - 05/15/06 12:17 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Someone who has attained some degree of mastery in a field where my progress is stunted; not someone who can write well. Someone who can point the way to new vistas and open my eyes to new possibilities through HAVING TRAVELLED THERE THEMSELVES.

Action and accomplishment, not talk, is what intrigues me.


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Re: What I look for in a Teacher [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5630860 - 05/15/06 12:21 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Money can buy accomplishments. A real teacher needs to communicate his or her ideas. I don't care if my teacher is a Doctor with a PHD or a homeless guy with a bottle of Thunderbird, as long as their ideas are logical and inspiring they can be an excellent teacher.


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Re: What I look for in a Teacher [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #5630900 - 05/15/06 12:33 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I don't care if my teacher is a Doctor with a PHD or a homeless guy with a bottle of Thunderbird




If the homeless wino is attemtping to teach me how to get off the sauce and succeed in real estate, I am running in the opposite direction. Now if he is going to teach me how to beg; stay warm at night with newspaper and live on $2 a day; then I may pay attention.

Of course, many folks enjoy being scammed and giving away their power to someone who can manipulate words.


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the perfectest teacher evar!!! [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5631078 - 05/15/06 01:30 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: the perfectest teacher evar!!! [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5631110 - 05/15/06 01:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Thats nice to know "Sporetacus"...
Why not someone who can "write well"?

What should intrigue anyone about this thread?
Are you looking for a teacher who can convey the real estate profession to you accurately via the shroomery?


Im just kidding though.............


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Re: the perfectest teacher evar!!! [Re: stemmer]
    #5631146 - 05/15/06 02:01 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If your looking for a practical answer, I think a strong passion in the subject should be important while teaching it. Somone who can keep you on the edge of your seat and attuned to the lesson, even as boring or unessential as it seems to the individual. They should also enjoy the challenge of actually influencing their students towards a positive end. Informative, consistant and knowledgable with a sense of patience and empathy, the key principals for being a good teacher in my eyes.

Now, metaphorically, anyone can pass along knowledge and be considered a teacher, not by profession, but by the essence of reveiling new levels of truthfull information in another. I dislike teachers who are ritualistic in their approach because not everyone learns things the same way or at the same pace.

Personally, I really liked Socrates approach to teaching and philosphy. He would pose profound questions to his students and let them discover the answer already in themselves. Very Interesting...


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Re: What I look for in a Teacher [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5631496 - 05/15/06 06:54 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Do not limit yourself, a teacher does not necessarily have to have a human form. Every situation, every circumstance is teaching you, therefore everything is your teacher.


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Re: What I look for in a Teacher [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5631631 - 05/15/06 08:19 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Someone who has attained some degree of mastery in a field where my progress is stunted;

OK, I will be willing to take you on then. Start by washing my floor.


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Re: What I look for in a Teacher [Re: Icelander]
    #5632535 - 05/15/06 01:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Wax on; wax off?


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Re: What I look for in a Teacher [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5632574 - 05/15/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I try to look for a teacher who's not completely full of himself.


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Re: What I look for in a Teacher [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5632675 - 05/15/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

very likely
what you may be and what you may do will never have been done before.
we are each unique.
after chewing through a few of these object emulation and inspiration teachers,
maybe you an look for a good friend who can help you be you by being themselves.
course that has nothing to do with
either emulating or mastering.
but everything to do with the path that is actually unfolding.


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Re: What I look for in a Teacher [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5632947 - 05/15/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

sometimes those who accomplish don't wish to tell others of their accomplishments.  Its called humility.

"Those who speak do not know

Those who know, do not speak."

OK, I'll shut up riiiiiiiiight now :smile:


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Re: What I look for in a Teacher [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5633115 - 05/15/06 03:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

A friend of mine is PAYING for swimming lessons from a man who can not swim. Is this wise do you think? He thinks the guy is a master instructor.


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Re: What I look for in a Teacher [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5633156 - 05/15/06 03:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Without knowing any details, I would not trust him if he is physically capable. If he is teaching overcoming fear of deeper water and cannot do it, then that is just plain sad. If he is teaching techniques that he cannot perform, then again, I would have to question why.

That being said, a friend of mine sez the best skating coach he ever had is one who cannot skate because she is paralyzed, but she is a great observer of technique.


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Re: What I look for in a Teacher [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5633168 - 05/15/06 03:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

He is teaching competition swimming, but fears water compulsively. My friend says that he is a great coach and that his swimming has improved very markedly. I myself would be sceptical.


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Re: What I look for in a Teacher [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5635625 - 05/15/06 11:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

>> Someone who has attained some degree of mastery in a field where my progress is stunted; not someone who can write well. Someone who can point the way to new vistas and open my eyes to new possibilities through HAVING TRAVELLED THERE THEMSELVES. 

>> Action and accomplishment, not talk, is what intrigues me.  

So basically, you require a teacher who does not ask you to turn your attention to your own experience, who is going to carry you all the way through your progress, and who is never going to encourage the growth of character through faith and effort.  Sounds like you want someone who has done all the work so that you don't have to. 

Awwww, that's kinda cute!  No faith for you!  That's for weaklings, right?  You need HARD EVIDENCE.  How adorable.  :grin:

The most profoundly convincing evidence is found through direct experience, and those are not experiences which can be arrived at unless there is faith in a teacher who may talk eloquently or write lucidly about things you do not yet understand.


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Re: What I look for in a Teacher [Re: Ped]
    #5635724 - 05/15/06 11:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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So basically, you require a teacher who does not ask you to turn your attention to your own experience, who is going to carry you all the way through your progress, and who is never going to encourage the growth of character through faith and effort.




No basically you fabricated mucho bullshit and then compounded your error by pointing in the wrong direction.

Your awareness level needs much work.


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Re: What I look for in a Teacher [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5636812 - 05/16/06 09:30 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Action and accomplishment, not talk, is what intrigues me.

I have taken the "talk" of someone whom I have never met. Applied "action" (my own), and achieved "accomplishment". I have no idea if the person who spoke those words ever did, themselves, accomplish anything.


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Re: What I look for in a Teacher [Re: Ped]
    #5636942 - 05/16/06 10:28 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Ped said:
So basically, you require a teacher who does not ask you to turn your attention to your own experience, who is going to carry you all the way through your progress, and who is never going to encourage the growth of character through faith and effort.  Sounds like you want someone who has done all the work so that you don't have to.   




No, it sounds more like he wants a teacher who has already traveled the path that he wishes to. The teacher would be familiar with all of the thoughts and experiences that he would be going through, and would thus be more capable of carefully guiding him through the change.

Nowhere was it implied that he wanted someone to carry him. He wants someone who will be capable of directing his attention into his own experience. Someone who has never before traveled the path will have no clue as to what he will be going through, and will be incapable of doing so.

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Re: What I look for in a Teacher [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5637072 - 05/16/06 11:25 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The mistakes of myself and others have most often been my greatest teachers in life.

Knowing what to do and how to do it is always a plus. Knowing what NOT to do can be a life saver.



I reflect back on all of my teachers in all areas of life. The ones that stand out as the best to me, all share these same qualities.

They really enjoyed the subject matter and their enthusiasm for it was infectious and inspiring.

They had confidence and belief in me where I didn't and was ready to give up. They wouldn't let me quit because they were so sure, I could do it.

They smiled and said not a word when i fucked up, knowing I just experienced a great lesson. They let me fuck up, watched me fuck up and let me know that it was okay to fuck up as it taught the value of trial and error, oppossed to those who chasticed me for fuck ups.

They asked more questions then they gave me answers.

They had enormous amounts of patience and ability to understand people.

They always showed me respect and were never condescending. That helped tremendously for me to be more open to learning from them.



Everyone learns differently so what makes a great teacher for us as individuals is going to be different in some areas.

Granted, a good teacher has to have a basic understanding of the fundamentals however, students often exceed a teachers ability while still under their wing.

Serena Williams can kick he dads ass in tennis yet he is still her coach able to help her to keep realizing more of her potential.

Teachers often learn how to become better teachers from their own students feedback.

Haven't any of you had next to know ability at something and yet just by watching someone practice with theirs and knowing what they are working to accomplish, you can see and suggest where they can make a correction to improve?

I think it's not true that a teacher needs to have greater ability to do the actual thing a student wishes to do or learn.

Look at how many physical feats were pulled off with mathematical equations alone.  MEN got a freaking rocket and other men to the moon without ever having gone their themselves.


I know a kid who is an awesome windsurfer and can't teach it for shit. He lost all memory and understanding of what it was like to be a begginer and was very ineffective at it.

I find no logic in your arguments about a teacher having to have physically done something themselves first to be able to teach others how to do it Spartacus.


:peace: :heart:

edit- sentence rearange.


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Edited by gettinjiggywithit (05/16/06 11:28 AM)


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