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is this sanpedro?
    #5629989 - 05/14/06 08:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

OK i have come into possession of some cacti and found a large patch just growing by a trail and I'm 99% surer its sanpedro







I'm pretty sure that its sanpedro and the cacti i took it off was quite large and there were several other areas that were cleanly cut and had callused over. I'm planning on making chimora next sat and tripping sat night.


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: MrMolotov]
    #5630010 - 05/14/06 08:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yes but

that is too small and tip cuttings should be planted not eaten

it makes sense to use all the rest of the growth for your own purposes and plant the tip so the plant can keep growing at a steady pace

doesnt it make sense?

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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: faslimy]
    #5630022 - 05/14/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

oh i already have like 8 more feet 4 feet are sectioned and drying on my friends roof and 4 more feet are in my friends pad.
I was planning on letting callus over and rooting it in sandy loam soil. it makes perfect sense i was planning on it he he i just didn't type it out.

yeah the cacti is a really big patch theres atleast 20 4 foot arms and their huge.


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: MrMolotov]
    #5630307 - 05/14/06 09:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

That, sir, is indeed a san pedro.

Enjoy your pedro. They seem prickly at first, but you grow to love them :grin:


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: Konnrade]
    #5630478 - 05/14/06 10:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

hehe ive already started petting my small piece hehe.

would you reccomend a one foot section to make chimora(boil and tea) for a first dose or would 9 inches be better?


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: MrMolotov]
    #5630525 - 05/14/06 10:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Me, I'd say 9 inches for a first -- in fact, that's exactly what I was planning on myself. Also probably depends on how wide the thing is, on average, age of the cactus, and so on. I heard that you can expect a 400mg dose from 12oz of fresh San Pedro, and that's about Huxley strength.

Edited by AlephOne (05/14/06 10:56 PM)

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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: AlephOne]
    #5630572 - 05/14/06 11:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I have used san pedro many times. That certainly does look like the pedro.

I have almost never had a foot of pedro that was visually even as intense as 1.5-2 grams of shrooms. I know visuals are likely not entirely what you are looking for. But its a good comparison.

I have had a foot of pedro that was FAR more potent than 1.5 grams of mushrooms. Its just that most were not, and the best were a bit like an LSD-like version of of 2 grams of mushrooms.
2 feet is hard to down, unless you have a really nice preparation. Almost reguardless of how potent your cacti is, 2 feet shoud be amazing. Most san pedro does the trick in my experience.

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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: stemmer]
    #5630720 - 05/14/06 11:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

well me and a close close friend are gonna trip so i think 12 inches will be perfect so we casn each drink half of the remaining liquid after cooking
hes joining the army for their diving program so i want him to have some good times with him before hes gone for a few years.


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: MrMolotov]
    #5630727 - 05/14/06 11:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well, be sure to let us know how that goes!

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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: AlephOne]
    #5630760 - 05/14/06 11:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

the cacti is probobally pretty old because its atleast 8-10 feet tall witl more arms than i cared to count all more than 3 inches mostly around 4 inches thick.


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: MrMolotov]
    #5630826 - 05/15/06 12:10 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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well me and a close close friend are gonna trip so i think 12 inches will be perfect so we casn each drink half of the remaining liquid after cooking
hes joining the army for their diving program so i want him to have some good times with him before hes gone for a few years.




Fun fact:

mescaline is not included in normal drug tests, including those used by the military.

If I don't put my days of drug use behind me before joining the air force... I can always indulge in a bit of Mescaline now and then :laugh:

The same would apply to anyone else in the military. Just don't get caught, they can still test for mescaline if they suspect it's use.


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: Konnrade]
    #5630879 - 05/15/06 12:27 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i know they cant test for mesc but he thinks hes gonna be gone for a long time or some shit not sure.


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: MrMolotov]
    #5635003 - 05/15/06 09:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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i know they cant test for mesc but he thinks hes gonna be gone for a long time or some shit not sure.



No worries mate.
They won't test for it unless they think he's doing it.

I ain't telling, are you?


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #5635310 - 05/15/06 10:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

heh nope.hes not too worried anyways they would tellhim to come abck in a few weeks if anythuibng hapened anyways


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #5635319 - 05/15/06 10:04 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I am definitely going to have to try some san pedro one day. 

p.s. this is my 500th post :smile:


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: drSE]
    #5635481 - 05/15/06 10:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Happy 501st! (sorry, got to it one post too late)


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: whatever123]
    #5635493 - 05/15/06 10:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

cool hehe gonna try to trade a dose or two of cacti for some shrooms tomorrow witsh me luck haha.


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: MrMolotov]
    #5635498 - 05/15/06 10:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Buena suerte.


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: whatever123]
    #5635570 - 05/15/06 11:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

maybe able to get acid because the guy i know really really wants mescaline and always talks about wanting it.


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: MrMolotov]
    #5642172 - 05/17/06 03:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

You should keep the cactus. :P

AlephOne:
"Me, I'd say 9 inches for a first -- in fact, that's exactly what I was planning on myself. "

Ah. So you haven't done it. I have a very strong feeling that your recommendation would change by a good amount if you had. :smile: You certainly may feel 9", you may not. But either way, you'll likely wish you had more.


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5642320 - 05/17/06 03:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It sucks for me to have to say this.

You mentioned that it had more arms than you cared to count......

San pedro is a colomnar cacti.  It typically does not grow "many many" arms unless it has been cut many times.  Many large flowers yes, but typically no arms.
  There are lots of 8-10 foot tall pedros out there.  Almost all of them have zero arms.

  When I saw the picture it didnt look right to me, but right enough.  When I heard you say it has many arms, I sadly have to say its very likely that its not san pedro.

So unless the trunk has been cut, it should still only grow a few arms if any(maybe none, as a rule).  If the trunk has never been cut, Its not san pedro.

sorry........  I do hope im wrong for your sake.  You seem to have your hopes up.

http://cgi.ebay.com/San-Pedro-cactus-Tri...1QQcmdZViewItem

They almost stricktly grow in columns.

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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: stemmer]
    #5642426 - 05/17/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i think it might be pervian torch, but unlikely any mescaline bearing cactus.


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: DinahTheCat]
    #5642468 - 05/17/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It certainly is not peruvian torch, and that would contain mescaline anyways. The color and spines say it all when it comes to peruvian torch.(which provides a hell of a trip)

PT is also a columnar cacti.

It sucks for him that its not a mescaline cacti.

Hope he didnt "trade" some of his cuttings just yet.

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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: stemmer]
    #5642776 - 05/17/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah the main cacti has been cut a lot and the arms all come from where it has been cut in the past.

i am 100% sure its pedro because it looks very very similar if not the same as this

and this cacti is also very very well established and i guess its been there atleast 15-20 years maybe more and im sure there have been many pups that have come up from the base over the years.


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: MrMolotov]
    #5642855 - 05/17/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

If the so called "many arms" come from the base(or root system) you might have the pedro.

Most pedros do tend to grow in clumps if they happen to grow close together.

You would know, if you know how pedro grows. If you do know enough about it, then good luck with your trip!

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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: stemmer]
    #5642946 - 05/17/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah man all the independant arms come from the base the only arms come from where a growing tip has been cut. just a big clump of cacti

how long should i let the cactus callus over before transplanting?


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: MrMolotov]
    #5642984 - 05/17/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

That I dont know.

Thats pretty great that you found some.
After talking to you, it seems like that is pedro.
And if it is, its one very healthy(beyond what I have seen personally). To the point where your cutting almost looks like a different cacti. SOme large super healthy-cuttings do look that green and unscarred. The innerds of your cacti look very green.
The spines most certainly look like pedro, as does the shape.

Thats pretty nice...........

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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: stemmer]
    #5643019 - 05/17/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ya i can try to get a camera out and take a pic but it prolly wont happen cus im lazy.
today on the wayhome i almost thought i found a pedro with 4 ridges but it had 6 it was just a strange one kinda retarded. about 2.5 maybe 3 feet high


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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: MrMolotov]
    #5643692 - 05/17/06 08:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/files/05-05/763173908-DSCF0006u.jpg

this is how pedro's grow in the wild, many arms, from the base, i have one in a pot, that i planted as one cutting, which now has 3 arms growing from the base, and one from the top, giving me 4 cactus pieces, i will take a pic of it when i have time.

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Re: is this sanpedro? [Re: supra]
    #5643720 - 05/17/06 09:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ya mines def sanpedro. i found a nice specimen at home depot of all places haha its actually labeled as sanpedro hehe.


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