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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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The new seers.
    #5629936 - 05/14/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"Juan stressed that the strength he was talking about was not conviction alone.No one could have had stronger convictions than the old seers, and yet they were weak to the core. Internal strength meant a sense of equanimity, almost of indifference, a feeling of being at ease, but, above all, it meant a natural and profound bent for examination, for understanding. The new seers called all these traits of character, sobriety.

The conviction that the new seers have, is that a life of impeccability by itself leads unavoidably to a sense of sobriety and this in turn leads to the moverment of the assemblage point.

I've said that the new seers believed that the assemblage point can be moved from within. They went one step further and maintained that impeccable men need no one to guide them, that by themselves, through saving their energy, they can do everything that seers do. All they need is a minimal chance, just to be cognizant of the possibilities that seers have unraveled.

Impeccability begins with a single act that has to be
deliberate, precise and sustained. If that act is repeated long
enough, one acquires a sense of unbending intent which can be
applied to anything else. If that is accomplished the road is
clear. One thing will lead to another until the warrior realizes
his full potential."



Anyone here have thoughts on this. It's one of the most important things I have read anywhere, IMO.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: The new seers. [Re: Icelander]
    #5629964 - 05/14/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

These are powerful words. In this case you are preaching to the choir. Maintaining impeccability is the key to storing personal power in order to manipulate one's awareness (or move the assemblage point).


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda


Edited by Huehuecoyotl (05/14/06 08:50 PM)


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Re: The new seers. [Re: Icelander]
    #5630024 - 05/14/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The new seers are everywhere. They are "ordinary" people in disguise. They have a deep knowing of what they are, and most are afraid of that. But beware: He who claims to be a seer is not. The new seers are meek. If unawakened, they go about their lives in misery. After awakening, they go about their lives in quiet confidence. "By their fruits you 'll know them" and whatnot.


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Re: The new seers. [Re: Icelander]
    #5630077 - 05/14/06 08:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I wwould also note that you have described the basis for possible social change.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda


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Re: The new seers. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5630084 - 05/14/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I guessed you would bring this one up. :wink:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: The new seers. [Re: Icelander]
    #5630108 - 05/14/06 09:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I just had to throw it in....couldn't help myself.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda


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Re: The new seers. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5630128 - 05/14/06 09:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"You say you want a revolution, well, you know...we all wanna change the world."

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Re: The new seers. [Re: Icelander]
    #5630145 - 05/14/06 09:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Please describe "impeccability."
Are warriors not allowed to make mistakes?


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Re: The new seers. [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5630163 - 05/14/06 09:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Impeccability means without sin. Sin is to go against the self. Impeccability is not realated to perfection.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda


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Re: The new seers. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5630179 - 05/14/06 09:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Impeccability is to do your best. Not be perfect. Otherwise we would all be fucked.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: The new seers. [Re: Icelander]
    #5630223 - 05/14/06 09:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I would take a small issue here...one can do one's best at a practice that is not impeccable. There is a little more here than just doing one's best...one must pay attention to the act one is doing.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda


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Re: The new seers. [Re: Icelander]
    #5630226 - 05/14/06 09:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"social revolution" is a bottom-up, as opposed to vanguard-led or political, revolution aiming to reorganize all of society. In the words of Peter Kropotkin, "social revolution means the reorganization of the industrial, economic life of the country and consequently also of the entire structure of society."


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Re: The new seers. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5630233 - 05/14/06 09:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You misunderstand me, as doing your best encompasses your ideas also. I'm not talking about a mechanical action. I'm talking the totality of the idea of best. That which serves the greatest result.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: The new seers. [Re: Icelander]
    #5630240 - 05/14/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Here is a definition we will both agree to impeccability=controlled folly.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda


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Re: The new seers. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5630257 - 05/14/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've told you that the secret of a strong body is not in what you do to it but what you don't do. Now it is time for you not to do what you always do.
Practice not-doing by looking at a tree or bush; fix your attention not on the leaves but on the shadows of the leaves. Running in the darkness does not have to be spurred by fear but can be a very natural reaction of a jubilant body that knows how to not-do.
To not-do what you know how to do is the key to power. In the case of looking at a tree or bush, what you know how to do is to focus immediately on the foliage. The shadows of the leaves or the spaces in between the leaves are never your concern. Start focusing on the shadows of the leaves on one single branch and then eventually work your way to the whole tree, and don't let your eyes go back to the leaves, because the first deliberate step to storing personal power is to allow the body to not-do. The body likes things like this. You can stop the world using this technique. Once you have succeeded, you must work as if nothing has happened to you and don't mention or even be concerned with any of the events you have experienced.


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Re: The new seers. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5630269 - 05/14/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Huehuecoyotl said:
Here is a definition we will both agree to impeccability=controlled folly.




:thumbup:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: The new seers. [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5630270 - 05/14/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I find not-doing to be very useful.


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Re: The new seers. [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5630272 - 05/14/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

wu-wei


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Re: The new seers. [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5630332 - 05/14/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

MushmanTheManic said:
wu-wei




Have you found not-doing useful to you? Also have you read any of the Castaneda books?


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Re: The new seers. [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5630341 - 05/14/06 09:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yes and yes.


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