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Re: Trippin' on Amanitas! [Re: methus]
    #5648 - 08/19/00 02:22 PM (23 years, 7 months ago)

I thought Fly Agaric looks exactly like the A. Muscaria but is very deadly. Or is Fly Agaric just another name for A. muscaria.

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Re: Trippin' on Amanitas! [Re: methus]
    #5649 - 08/19/00 05:57 PM (23 years, 7 months ago)

fly agaric = amanita m.

i gave them a fair try.
got some from jlf and had a friend in australia send me some fresh picked.
found the high to be minimal
while the body load was extreme.
not much 'fun' and not very 'spiritual' either.
i shared, and my friends felt the same way.

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Re: Trippin' on Amanitas! [Re: methus]
    #5650 - 08/21/00 06:52 PM (23 years, 7 months ago)

Hippie3 (And anyone else interested)-
A lot of people'll tell you that Amanitas are either bunk or bad, but they have a few saftey guards, a few little catches. I have been experimenting further with Amanitas and to get a "real" trip, this is what you need to do:
Somehow get some fresh Amanitas, like a dozen medium-sized caps (Those would be four or five inchers, diagonal). Take off the entire stem and scrape off most of the gills. The active chemicals are found in the red skin and the dyed yellowish flesh underneath that skin.
Then, dry the caps in your oven (with the door open... keep an eye on them, and do NOT let them burn) at 200F or so until they are just slightly browned and pretty crispy.
The taste, to me, is almost unbearable. I had to mask the taste of my last few amanita consumptions with hummus, bread, beans. Those things have a lot of fiber and protien and stuff in em, and they cover the taste reasonably.
After a while, you should have a good batch of mushrooms.
Smoke a little herb when you eat em. Nausea WILL hit ya. All I needed was a toke to feel right as rain, but you might find you need more or maybe even none, but it's always a must when I eat Amanitas.
But anyway, that is the method I use. It is based off of the ancient shamanic techniques of the Koryaks. Drying is probably the most important part of the process. They stress, over and over again, that you must dry the Amanitas before you eat them (as opposed to cookin' them), and I would concur, because I have only tripped off dried caps.
Anyeay, what I'm basically saying is that you probably should be involved in the whole process, from picking to eating. It seems that unless you follow the traditions to an extent, you probably won't trip or if you do it could be bad. Just something I've noticed...

Big Boomer- Thanks for the link!! I especially dig that part about how Amanitas were often described by the first Christians as the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. That sounds about right. Man, you KNOW those old saints were popping back the shrooms!

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Re: Trippin' on Amanitas! [Re: methus]
    #654790 - 05/31/02 02:21 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Is the trip similar to cubies? o totaly diferent?


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Re: Trippin' on Amanitas! [Re: LOBO]
    #655597 - 05/31/02 10:40 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

go and read up on jamesarthur.net

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Re: Trippin' on Amanitas! [Re: phrozendata]
    #656881 - 06/01/02 04:00 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Hey phrozendata - Dont go throwing in nasty shit like that without being sure, I am fairly certain that they are only dangerous fresh and that proper drying makes'em'sound .
BTW no offense intended

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Re: Trippin' on Amanitas! [Re: methus]
    #657148 - 06/01/02 07:43 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know much about amanita's. I've done a little research when I first got interested in psilocybes because I was looking for a different trip. A friend of mine, who has tripped on amanita's a few times has told me some things about it. These might be false facts or whatever but amanita muscaria can really fuck you up if you don't know your limits (as with any drug, however it takes a lot more P. cubes than amanitas). It also depends how you ingest them. You can eat them raw, saute them, dry them and eat them as chips, or broil them on a grill, make a broth with extracts, and drink 1 or 2 tablespoons for a trip. If your really adventurous alongside with the fact that you don't mind drinking urine, you can experience more potent effects than ingesting them in their original state (when they pass through the body it is believed that they become more potent). These various forms of ingestion will effect potency and/or properties, so remember the be cautious with your limits with the form of ingestion in mind too.

(A classic example of mushrooms changing properties in different forms of ingestions would be the experience of the family that went to a restaurant and ate the left overs the following morning. They ordered a salad with delicious mushrooms. They were given the salad in a doggie back when they left. The next morning at their home, they decided to eat the leftovers by frying the mushrooms with eggs. The frying of the mushroom caused the once delicious and edible mushroom to become deadly poisonous. Everyone who ate the mushrooms died. Temperature can change chemical structures and therefore properties of mushrooms. This doesn't happen with all mushrooms, but it is just an example of how things can change when they are ingested differently).

From what I was told, I would consider amanitas definitely a harder drug. So if your going to do them be cautious about it and make sure you respect it for something that could kill you.

Do your own research (talk with peope who have done it or are knowledgeable on the subject) and decide if it's for you. But remember, these mushrooms are lethal.

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