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OfflineEquilibriuM
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Re: don Juan [Re: Icelander]
    #5629836 - 05/14/06 08:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Warriors have an ulterior purpose for their acts which has
nothing to do with personal gain. The average man acts only if
there is a chance for profit. Warriors act not for profit, but for
the spirit.

For the average man, the world is weird because if he's not
bored with it, he's at odds with it. For a warrior, the world is
weird because it is stupendous, awesome, mysterious, unfathomable.
A warrior must assume responsibility for being here, in this
marvelous world, in this marvelous time.

Impeccability begins with a single act that has to be
deliberate, precise and sustained. If that act is repeated long
enough, one acquires a sense of unbending intent which can be
applied to anything else. If that is accomplished the road is
clear. One thing will lead to another until the warrior realizes
his full potential.

Any movement of the assemblage point means a movement away
from an excessive concern with the individual self. Shamans believe
it is the position of the assemblage point which makes modern man a
homicidal egoist, a being totally involved with his self-image.
Having lost hope of ever returning to the source of everything, the
average man seeks solace in his selfishness.

A warrior must cultivate the feeling that he has everything
needed for the extravagant journey that is his life. What counts
for a warrior is being alive. Life in itself is sufficient,
self-explanatory and complete.
Therefore, one may say without being presumptuous that the
experience of experiences is being alive.

A warrior must focus his attention on the link between
himself and his death. Without remorse or sadness or worrying, he
must focus his attention on the fact that he does not have time and
let his acts flow accordingly. He must let each of his acts be his
last battle on earth. Only under those conditions will his acts
have their rightful power. Otherwise they will be, for as long as
he lives, the acts of a fool.


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InvisibleIcelander
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Re: don Juan [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5629872 - 05/14/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yes! That's it. I think it's time to present some more of Carlos's ideas for discussion. Seems there are some folk here who have an understanding of this material. Let's see. I will start another thread.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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OfflineEquilibriuM
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Re: don Juan [Re: Icelander]
    #5629890 - 05/14/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:biggrin:


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InvisibleMushmanTheManic
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Re: don Juan [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5632075 - 05/15/06 11:07 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Did anyone else think the tonal seemed awfully similar to maya?


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OfflineKiwishroomer
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Re: don Juan [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5648487 - 05/18/06 11:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
Here is some interesting info. The information has surfaced recently that in the course of writing his books that Carlos Castaneda consulted as many as 11 shaman. The one that influenced his views the most was a Yaqui Shaman from Sonora Mexico His name is Grandfather Tezlcazi Guitimea Cachora. Castaneda reportedly studied with him for 3 to 4 years. Yaqui shamanism is the source for most of the techniques and ideas promoted in his books. Of course his books were fictionalized accounts of his apprenticeship mixed with symbolic references designed to convey a teaching. I attached a picture of this guy, who is actually still alive and nearly 90 years old.





Just the sort of thing I was after, helpful.  Thanks :rolleyes: :thumbup:


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OfflineKiwishroomer
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Re: don Juan [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5648502 - 05/18/06 11:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Huehuecoyotl said:
Here is some interesting info. The information has surfaced recently that in the course of writing his books that Carlos Castaneda consulted as many as 11 shaman. The one that influenced his views the most was a Yaqui Shaman from Sonora Mexico His name is Grandfather Tezlcazi Guitimea Cachora. Castaneda reportedly studied with him for 3 to 4 years. Yaqui shamanism is the source for most of the techniques and ideas promoted in his books. Of course his books were fictionalized accounts of his apprenticeship mixed with symbolic references designed to convey a teaching. I attached a picture of this guy, who is actually still alive and nearly 90 years old.




Just the sort of thing I was after.  Helpful, thanks :thumbup:


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OfflineSporetacus
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Re: don Juan [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5650058 - 05/19/06 12:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

The average man acts only if there is a chance for profit. Warriors act not for profit, but for the spirit.




Both act FOR something, just a different payoff; not a big difference.


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InvisibleSilversoul
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Re: don Juan [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5650062 - 05/19/06 12:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Sporetacus said:
Quote:

The average man acts only if there is a chance for profit. Warriors act not for profit, but for the spirit.




Both act FOR something, just a different payoff; not a big difference.



So people should act for no reason at all? I fail to see your logic here(perhaps because there isn't any).


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OfflineSporetacus
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Re: don Juan [Re: Silversoul]
    #5650076 - 05/19/06 12:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Acting 'for the spirit' is so vague as to be meaningless.


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InvisibleHuehuecoyotl
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Re: don Juan [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5650791 - 05/19/06 04:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

No it is very precise. It means to do something because it is worth doing...to act with puspose instead of acting as if one is asleep constantly.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda


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