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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: eligal]
    #5625034 - 05/13/06 03:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Here's my basic attitude.

I'll flirt with you. I'll flirt with your woman. Maybe I'll even give your woman a foot massage. But you're my friend. I'm not going to bust up the relationship you worked so hard to form. I've been in them myself and know how much work they are. I just wouldn't get intimate with friends' girlfriends unless it was some kind of threesome.

I tend to make a lot of boyfriends jealous, but if they really knew me they'd know they have nothing to fear. I'm single because I don't like the work that goes into maintaining relationships. The last thing I'd want to do would be to make an enemy and wind up with a cheating girl who I then have to worry about.


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5625047 - 05/13/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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There's a difference between looking and appreciating, and the way you act upon that.




Really? Tell me in what way a guy in his mid 40's would not look "skeevy" to you if he were hitting on a girl in her mid 20's.


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: TM]
    #5625052 - 05/13/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: TM]
    #5625062 - 05/13/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Tell me in what way a guy in his mid 40's would not look "skeevy" to you if he were hitting on a girl in her mid 20's.




Hm...good point.


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: TM]
    #5625090 - 05/13/06 03:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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TM said:
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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
There's a difference between looking and appreciating, and the way you act upon that.




Really? Tell me in what way a guy in his mid 40's would not look "skeevy" to you if he were hitting on a girl in her mid 20's.




I think it's pretty skeevy in general.  But if the girl was the one who initiated the flirting or contact, and the guy was just flirting back, that's a different story.  I think when older men pursue women who are SIGNIFICANTLY younger than them and get turned down, it shows desperation and lonliness, and signifies an underlying mental problem :shrug:  Just my 2 cents.


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: Liz]
    #5625129 - 05/13/06 04:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I think when older men pursue women who are SIGNIFICANTLY younger than them and get turned down, it shows desperation and lonliness, and signifies an underlying mental problem :shrug:  Just my 2 cents.




I've tried to explain this to women and they don't get it, but here goes again...

Men can't control who they are sexually attracted to.  Desperation and loneliness have nothing to do with it.  You can't "train" yourself to be attracted to a different "type" of person.

If, for example, you are a 40 year old man and you're not attracted to 40 year old women but you marry one anyway out of some social obligation, you're going to wind up causing a lot of hurt to your partner.  Maybe you'll cheat with the secretary at work.  Maybe porn will be sufficient.  But you'll be left with a very unhappy wife and probably a divorce.

There is plenty of room in this world for everyone to achieve some sort of satisfaction.  Barring underage couplings, I say have at it.  Did you know that some people don't even need to be together with anyone to be happy.  That would cover a lot of computer programmers I know.


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: Liz]
    #5625140 - 05/13/06 04:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Liz said:
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TM said:
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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
There's a difference between looking and appreciating, and the way you act upon that.




Really? Tell me in what way a guy in his mid 40's would not look "skeevy" to you if he were hitting on a girl in her mid 20's.




I think it's pretty skeevy in general.  But if the girl was the one who initiated the flirting or contact, and the guy was just flirting back, that's a different story.  I think when older men pursue women who are SIGNIFICANTLY younger than them and get turned down, it shows desperation and lonliness, and signifies an underlying mental problem :shrug:  Just my 2 cents.




Desperation and loneliness, mental problems? More like Desperation and horniness. That's all it is. I can sympathize with older men AND women like men are the only ones going for younger people. People in their 20's and 30's are just more physically attractive.. What kind of mental problem is being atracted to someone?


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: nookjohn]
    #5625145 - 05/13/06 04:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'm not saying that older men cannot be attracted to younger women, or even date them if the young woman reciprocates the feelings.  I'm saying that I know a number of older men who continuosly hit on young women who find them unattractive and downright creepy.  In gerenal, young women in their 20s are not attracted to men in their 40s, unless the men look younger than their age. 

If both parties feel that age doesn't matter, which to an extent I agree it does not, and both are attracted to eachother, I have no problem with older men dating younger women or vise versa.  I have a problem with older men who PERSISTENTLY PURSUE young women, offering money, etc, to form some sort of relationship.  I think that's gross, and morally reheprehensible.  I don't understand why the fact that these girls are young enough to be their daughters doesn't gross them out...it sure grosses me out :shrug:


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: buckwheat]
    #5625150 - 05/13/06 04:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I specifically said "I think", meaning "in my opinion".  I'm certainly not trying to say that every older man who pursues younger women has mental issues, but some of the ones that I have come across certainly do.  Whether it be the need to show off by having a young, hot "trophy" on your arm, or not being taken seriously by women of your maturity level, or simply not being taken seriously by women at ALL, for one reason or another :shrug:


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5625158 - 05/13/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'm with you on all that, man. I really don't understand about 90% of the male gender, I'm afraid :shrug:


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5625159 - 05/13/06 04:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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(This also had other effects on my ideas of masculinity but hey, that's for another time, another thread.)




Where can I find this thread?


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: TM]
    #5625160 - 05/13/06 04:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:lol: Defensive, ain't we? :wink:


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: Liz]
    #5625163 - 05/13/06 04:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If it takes money to achieve sexual satisfaction, what's so bad about that? Marriage is a transfer of money from men to women almost 100% of the time. The bottom line is that sex is *always* about money.

Would you rather have more sexually frustrated guys out there than we have now? I would foresee a spike in rape, violence, and other serious crime.

Let some 40 year old man give a 20 year old woman money for sex. Who cares? Who are they hurting, really? In the end you have two happier people versus two considerably unhappier people.


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: nookjohn]
    #5625168 - 05/13/06 04:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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nookjohn said:
The bottom line is that sex is *always* about money.




I'm sad for you.


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: nookjohn]
    #5625175 - 05/13/06 04:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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The bottom line is that sex is *always* about money.




WTF? I don't know what you've been smoking john, but give me some!!!

Sex isn't about money - sex is about sex.

Unless you're having sex with a hooker, then it's about the money (for her, anyway) :smirk:


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5625180 - 05/13/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
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nookjohn said:
The bottom line is that sex is *always* about money.




I'm sad for you.




the man is jsut intouch with reality.
but by money he means security. :thumbup:


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: nookjohn]
    #5625184 - 05/13/06 04:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've never had sex with money as any sort of consideration.  Now I've had sex for a lot of reasons - love, lust, alcohol, etc...but never money.  I don't know why you have that perception of people  :confused:


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: Liz]
    #5625193 - 05/13/06 04:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think money = power.


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: Liz]
    #5625208 - 05/13/06 04:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Liz said:
I have a problem with older men who PERSISTENTLY PURSUE young women, offering money, etc, to form some sort of relationship.




I think it's safe to say that we won't be seeing you at the playboy mansion anytime soon? :wink: :grin:


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Re: Skeevy Guys. What a pack of scum. [Re: Liz]
    #5625231 - 05/13/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

So what you're saying is that older men should not attempt to seduce younger women. But that only when the women initiates first its OK.So basically out of their own kindness they should not gross out women like you.Strip them of a right so they wont gross you out or god forbid another women that feels the same way you do.I mean that would be like totally gross right?


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