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HighGuy
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Monotub Question
#5623494 - 05/13/06 12:50 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pins are starting to pop up in my mono tub, I chose to not use a casing layer after reading several pros comment on how it is just as well without it in a monotub grow. Anyways just wondered if I'm supposed to mist it or just let it sit?
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: HighGuy]
#5623506 - 05/13/06 12:54 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: FungusMan]
#5623526 - 05/13/06 01:01 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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RR and hyphea rock.
fungus man, your avatar is hilarious.
love it.
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Lol, thnx. Ive had this since I reg'd, and even had a few thieves "borrow" it, and try to claim they had it first. I wish I could inlarge yours to figure out whats going on,lol. Its kinda creepy
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: FungusMan]
#5623543 - 05/13/06 01:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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lol!! yeah totally creepy been trying to figure that out myself
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HighGuy
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: BPJohnny]
#5623580 - 05/13/06 01:23 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is a monotub though, doesn't a mono tub not require misting? or is that only if you apply a casing layer?
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: HighGuy]
#5623810 - 05/13/06 09:13 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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check this out then..
http://toolshed.down.net/video/sober/stills1.html http://toolshed.down.net/video/sober/stills2.html
some more stills from the whole thing
It's a pipe with a hole in it and a slimey thing (worm) crawling through it. The character is feeling the slimey thing because he is a freak.
adam jones is visually stunning in his apporaches.....
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read the thread linked to you again and focus on RR's comments.
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: HighGuy]
#5623854 - 05/13/06 09:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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IMO its a good idea to not use a caseing layer in a monotub. They contam allot from lack of air exchange if there is a caseing layer, they work great without.
Its neat to see people catching on to this. Dunk the substrate after the first flush to replenish the water.
check out my avatar thats brazils in a monotub with no caseing.
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: HighGuy]
#5623883 - 05/13/06 09:37 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
HighGuy said: This is a monotub though, doesn't a mono tub not require misting? or is that only if you apply a casing layer?
It doesn't require anything but a little light and the right temps. Don't open it up until you are ready to harvest. The slow and steady loss of humidity actually helps pinning and fruiting. Opening it for any purpose will throw off the humidity.
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: FooMan]
#5623938 - 05/13/06 09:51 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've got 2 coolmists running 1 hour on/1 hour off to 8 (18 gal) monotubs (4 tubs/coolmist). They provide FAE and humidity. No casing layer, just waxed paper changed daily until pinning. Lights on a 16 on/8 off timer. Best pinsets/yields ever, and I never touch them after introducing them into fruiting conditions except to change my waxed paper. No fanning, no misting, no BS. No less than 5 oz dry per tub after one flush!
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: Premedman1]
#5623953 - 05/13/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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sounds like your setup is allot more complicated than it needs to be. A ceiling fan in the room on medium and the wax paper is all you need.
id like to see piks of the setup and the mushrooms if you can.
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: Premedman1]
#5623963 - 05/13/06 09:57 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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You should do a Rich Man's Monotub Tek! 
Polyfil and a central AC are my only environmental controls. I'm thinking about rigging up a coolmist to one of the tubs for growing Pans though. They don't do so well with the FAE provided in a standard monotub.
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: FooMan]
#5623982 - 05/13/06 10:01 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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i think that would work wonders for pans
i was thinking of useing a PMP for pans what do you think about that idea?
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: Psychoslut]
#5623995 - 05/13/06 10:05 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't see why it wouldn't work. I may just do the same thing. It seems like a little less hassle then setting up the coolmist.
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: Psychoslut]
#5624022 - 05/13/06 10:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've had some pretty decent success with my Pan Jams in my setup. They seem to like the constant humid air exchange. I'm not suggesting everyone do like me, It just works well for me. I've tried the fan thing, and it's a bitch to get your distances worked out just right to optimize everything. Yes a ceiling fan/ boxfan would be alright, but I'm just experimenting with total climate control. I'll get pictures up the next time I visit my grow area. My entire setup yields somewhere around a dry pound a week, and my rich-man's setup is half the price of some of these "myco-kits" sold from differing vendors. I do thank you for your comments though.
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: Premedman1]
#5624049 - 05/13/06 10:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I read in either ggmm or tmc that pans like a turbulent fae in a high humid fog type conditions.
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: Premedman1]
#5624076 - 05/13/06 10:21 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I keep hearing about the wax paper. What do you do, just poke some holes in it or something. It replaces the casing, correct?
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: FooMan]
#5624089 - 05/13/06 10:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Exactly. The idea behind it is to create a micro climate.
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: FooMan]
#5624107 - 05/13/06 10:28 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, Foo, it is merely a substitute for the casing layer. My casing layers kept getting the mean green, so I opted for RR's waxed paper tek. Fully colonized poo is highly contam resistant, and this method has cut down on my contams by 75%. The waxed paper traps moisture creating a very nice micro-climate for optimal pin formation, yet is not air tight, allowing sufficient air exchange. RR suggests changing out the wax paper every couple of days, whereas I opt to change it out every evening since I use the coolmist. As the pins grow, they push the waxed paper up, creating a humidity tent to aid growth. A very novel idea, and really simplifies things when put into practice. It also reduces the time to pinning since there is no casing layer to colonize.
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: Premedman1]
#5624119 - 05/13/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Time to raid the kitchen cabinets
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: FooMan]
#5624794 - 05/13/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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 "Polyfil and a central AC are my only environmental controls."
I LOVE monotubs
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Arrakis
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: FungusMan]
#5625386 - 05/13/06 05:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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3 Quick mono-tub questions:
I was wondering if I should hook an air pump up to the mono-tub. This is what I was thinking: Punch 2 holes (one hole on each side) of the tub, put polyfill in one hole, and stick the tube connected to the air pump (which I'll have filtered in a polyfill box) in the other hole.
Then I would just turn on the air pump 3 or 4 times a day for a few minutes at a time (for FAE) while fruiting. (BTW, my air pump has a dial on it for adjustable air flow.)
1. I'm assuming that this would be just fine, but does this sound okay to you?
2. Also, do I not need to mist the casing layer anymore after the initial misting?
3. Lastly, will the substrate initiate pinning on its own after colonizing the casing layer in the monotub, or do I need to do something in order to initiate pinning (lower humidity by increasing FAE, lowering temperature, etc.)?
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Re: Monotub Question [Re: Arrakis]
#5625467 - 05/13/06 06:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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