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MP says Ecstasy isn't dangerous [AU]
    #5623462 - 05/13/06 12:37 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

MP SAYS ECSTASY ISN'T DANGEROUS
May 13, 2006 - theadvertiser.news.com

STATE MP Sandra Kanck says ecstasy - which has been linked to more than 110 deaths in three years - "is not a dangerous drug".

The Democrats leader told Parliament that after 20 years, there was still no ``evidence that it is a dangerous substance''.

She suggested the drug could have been given to victims of last year's fatal Eyre Peninsula bushfires to help them cope with their trauma.

Bushfire recovery effort chairman Vince Monterola said he was astounded by the comment, labelling it ``an absurd proposition''.

The U.S. National Institute on Drug Abuse warns that ecstasy, also known as MDMA, ``is not safe for human consumption''.

Australian Federal Police Commissioner Mick Keelty last month warned that a mistaken belief by young Australians that ecstasy was relatively safe was ``by far the biggest drug problem'' facing Australia.

The Federal Government spent $23 million last year warning of the dangers following revelations by the Australian Crime Commission that per capita, Australians are the biggest users in the world.

Substance Abuse Minister Gail Gago said 112 ecstasy-related deaths nationally between 2001 and 2004 was ``ample evidence'' the drug was harmful. ``Health experts, psychiatric experts and the community do not want a pro-drug policy,'' she said.

Ms Kanck  the last remaining Democrat in the the SA Parliament  announced on Wednesday that she intended to retire from politics at the 2010 election and was therefore ``not scared of a public backlash'' by taking a stand against mainstream opinion.

However, the party's state president, Richard Pascoe, yesterday called on her to stand aside within 12 months, saying he supported defeated MP Kate Reynolds taking her spot in the Legislative Council.

In a wide-ranging speech on drugs, Ms Kanck said she was ``quite disturbed'' by what she called ``an emerging trend of conservatism in politics''.

She claimed ``progressive politics'' was the loser from the March poll, which saw the election of anti-drugs campaigner Ann Bressington, Family First's Dennis Hood and Green Mark Parnell.

``I remind members who might think that all drugs are evil that Jesus partook of wine. He did not have any silly laws that said `this drug is legal, and this one isn't legal','' she said.

``We have been told that ecstasy is a dangerous substance. We do not have the evidence.

``The original 1985 listing of ecstasy, or MDMA, is still being contested. So more than 20 years later, the matter has not yet been resolved.

``In fact, I was saying to people last year after the bushfires on Eyre Peninsula, with all the trauma that was associated with it, that one of the best things you could probably have done for the people on EP who had gone through that trauma was to give them MDMA.

``However, one dare not advocate that, because we are all being tough on drugs, aren't we?''

``Good God,'' is how Eyre Peninsula farmer and SA Farmers Federation executive member Paul Kaden reacted to Ms Kanck's suggestions about dispensing the drug to traumatised bushfire victims. `

`That's one of the strangest comments I've ever heard and totally irresponsible,'' he said.

His comments were echoed by new Family First MP Mr Hood, who described the statement as ``beyond belief''.

Mr Hood said that Ms Kanck had clearly ``lost touch''. ``It is very disappointing.''


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Re: MP says Ecstasy isn't dangerous [AU] [Re: veggie]
    #5623695 - 05/13/06 02:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Brave and open-minded woman. Its sad to see how many people think she is off her rocker now, but at least she is speaking for what she believes in.

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Mr Hood said that Ms Kanck had clearly ``lost touch''. ``It is very disappointing.''




Yeah, she has lost touch with all the bullshit that she was once a part of.
I wish people would "lose touch" more often.


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Re: MP says Ecstasy isn't dangerous [AU] [Re: veggie]
    #5623749 - 05/13/06 03:09 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

> Sandra Kanck says ecstasy - which has been linked to more than 110 deaths in three years - "is not a dangerous drug".

More than 450 deaths occur world wide every year due to Tylenol and close to 50 people per day die from asprin in the US alone.


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Re: MP says Ecstasy isn't dangerous [AU] [Re: CUBErt]
    #5624001 - 05/13/06 10:06 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

To be fair, giving ecstasy to people suffering shock and trauma does sound pretty retarded. I have no medical training but I imagine any kind of stimulant would probably just make people more stressed.

Anyways, her message is a good one. She just chose a bizarre way to express it.


Edited by Odiumjunkie (05/13/06 11:22 AM)


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Re: MP says Ecstasy isn't dangerous [AU] [Re: Seuss]
    #5624166 - 05/13/06 10:44 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Not knocking what you're trying to do here, but how do you die from aspirin?


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Re: MP says Ecstasy isn't dangerous [AU] [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5624197 - 05/13/06 10:57 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"Two thousand people die every year from aspirin and non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs.(36) In the US, adverse reactions to prescription drugs are the fourth-largest killer.(37) Worldwide, it is impossible to estimate how many people’s lives have been adversely affected by drugs."

http://www.peta.org.uk/factsheet/files/FactsheetDisplay.asp?ID=132


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Re: MP says Ecstasy isn't dangerous [AU] [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5624230 - 05/13/06 11:07 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

peta, hmmm I'm sure they're an impartial source of information.

Yeah I was just wondering how they died though. Allergy? Overdose?


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Re: MP says Ecstasy isn't dangerous [AU] [Re: OJK]
    #5624245 - 05/13/06 11:12 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Odiumjunkie said:
To be fair, giving ecstasy to people suffering shock and trauma does sound pretty retarde. I have no medical training but I imagine any kind of stimulant would probably just make people more stressed.





I'm guessing she meant giving it during therapy after the fact, since MDMA has shown much promise in treating post traumatic stress disorder, although at the moment much of this evidence is anecdotal and rigorous clinical trials have only just started or are still in the planning phase.


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Re: MP says Ecstasy isn't dangerous [AU] [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5624362 - 05/13/06 11:53 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Microcosmatrix said:
peta, hmmm I'm sure they're an impartial source of information.

Yeah I was just wondering how they died though. Allergy? Overdose?




Yeah, I just did a google search and that was the first to come up... I can't stand PETA  :thumbdown: But there are several other sources that cite the same... They probably died from those causes you just listed.


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Re: MP says Ecstasy isn't dangerous [AU] [Re: veggie]
    #5624711 - 05/13/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

110 deaths a year? Pffft more people than that die every year slipping on wet bathroomn floors.


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Re: MP says Ecstasy isn't dangerous [AU] [Re: Psychoslut]
    #5625663 - 05/13/06 06:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

dope me up on x any day to cope with my problems.


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Re: MP says Ecstasy isn't dangerous [AU] [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5627562 - 05/14/06 06:25 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

> Yeah I was just wondering how they died though. Allergy? Overdose?

http://www.the-health-gazette.com/health...gers-of-aspirin
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I consider it interesting since acetylsalicylic acid (most commonly purchased as Aspirin) is actually quite dangerous. A fairly common class of allergens is known as the salicylates. Aspirin, being acetylsalicylic acid, is a salicylate and for those who are sensitive enough, it can cause very serious allergic reactions, even life threatening and fatal ones.

Additionally, acetylsalicylic acid is quite irritating to the gastric mucosa (lining of the stomach). It can quite easily erode the lining resulting in ulceration and gastric bleeding, which again, can be serious, even fatal. This is a very high risk for anyone who accidentally or deliberately takes an overdose of the drug.

So clearly, many adverse drug reactions (ADRs) are caused directly by taking this drug. Yet many people take the view that unless one has an obvious reaction, it is clearly safe since very large numbers of people are told to take it every day to prevent complications from heart disease. This is a dangerous error.

One serious but hidden problem that is commonly overlooked is that of drug-induced nutritional deficiencies. Aspirin is a glaring example of this problem. It is an antinutrient. Marketed and prescribed for daily use to prevent heart attack, aspirin depletes the body of the life-saving nutrient folic acid (as well as iron, potassium, sodium, and vitamin C). Symptoms of folic acid depletion include anemia, birth defects, elevated homocysteine (itself a significant risk factor for heart disease), headache, fatigue, hair loss, insomnia, diarrhea, and increased infection.




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