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wiggles
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So i just got my first pressure canner.
#5621920 - 05/12/06 05:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok, this is semi cultivation related, and I figured some of you guys can help. I have never, ever, in my entire life used a pressure cooker, let alone a pressure canner. My mother banned them from our house growing up since when she was little, she was nearly killed by one when the seal went and it exploded in front of her and her grandmother.
So, I have an older one.. it says WARD PRESSURECOOKER on it. It's got a metal to metal seal. In the center of the lid is a gauge which I'm guessing just shows the current pressure inside the pot. There's 2 knobs on the lid also (I'm guessing they're for lifting off the lid). Finally, the lid has two widgets on it that I don't understand at all.
Widget 1:
 This device unscrews to reveal a metal plunger, and a ball bearing, as seen here:

Widget 2:

This one unscrews off the lid, as shown here:

Now, how do these work? I'm guessing I use one of these to set the pressure that I'm looking for. How do I use it, and which one is it?
Also, the lid seems almost impossible to get to set even on the cooker. It almost always ends up a touch lopsided one way or another, does this matter? Or would it pose a safety hazard? Is it supposed to be screwed down the entire way (so the lid is flush with the cooker - which i think might be damn near impossible)?
Also, finally, are the lids always a total pain in the arse to get off? I couldn't even attempt pulling it off with my hands, I had to use a tire iron to get it off, lol.
Thanks bunchs guys! I appreciate it!
PS: I'm asking because the instructions did not come with it. I appreciate any help you can give. Thanks!
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Edited by wiggles (05/12/06 05:33 PM)
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: wiggles]
#5622089 - 05/12/06 06:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I realized I forgot to put a full shot of the PC, so here it is:

Also, widget #1 seems to be assembled so that the plunger thingie is resting on top of the ball bearing, and it pokes out top of the casing that screws on top of it.
Still no clue on widget number 2 though Anyone? Any help would be greatly appreciated guys. I'm kind of lost here
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: wiggles]
#5622126 - 05/12/06 06:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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put some water in there and fire it up, see what happens, report back
pay attention to the gauge, if it goes over 15 psi, turn the flame off.
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: Psychoslut]
#5622136 - 05/12/06 06:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok, before I try, dos the lid have to be flush on the pot? I'd rather not fire it up til I know that... no explosions til I'm in my own house, lol.
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: wiggles]
#5622141 - 05/12/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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air tight seal.
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: wiggles]
#5622156 - 05/12/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah make sure it is all the way down and tighten it up with them screw nobs.
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: monstermitch]
#5622159 - 05/12/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The thing is, I'm used to working with high pressure scuba tanks... there's no such thing as a metal to metal air tight seal at high pressure. So do I just screw the lid on as tight as it will go? Or is finger tight ok?
I'm sorry if I sound like a moron, its just that the horror stories I've grown up with kind of have me nervous I want to make sure I do everything correctly.
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: wiggles]
#5622183 - 05/12/06 06:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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don't be nervous.
screw it down hand tight + and fire 'er up.
post back with the report.
get it up to 15psi and hold it there for two hours with like 3" of water in the bottom just as a test.
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: wiggles]
#5622198 - 05/12/06 06:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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all american pressure cookers have a metal to metal pressure tight seal.
its in the machining. trust me it will work.
Just put all them parts back on the way they was and fire it up.
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: monstermitch]
#5622199 - 05/12/06 06:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well I have it on the burner with 3" of water in it. I unscrewed widget #2 all the way, since I think that might be the valve that allows steam to go through,... is that right or wrong?
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: wiggles]
#5622205 - 05/12/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't think anythings supposed to be unscrewed all the way, why would it be a screw? and how is it supposed to hold pressure with a screw loose?
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5622213 - 05/12/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Don't you have to get the water boiling first before you build pressure?
Sorry, I was trying to find guides earlier and thats what a few of the cooking ones suggested...
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: wiggles]
#5622221 - 05/12/06 06:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
wiggles said: Well I have it on the burner with 3" of water in it. I unscrewed widget #2 all the way, since I think that might be the valve that allows steam to go through,... is that right or wrong?
I don't know anything more than you do at this point Ive never used one like that. This is called a trial and error experiment. Let it start to boil and build up steam and if the pressure raises good, if it don't you will have to tighten the screw or something.
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[quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: wiggles]
#5622234 - 05/12/06 06:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
wiggles said: Don't you have to get the water boiling first before you build pressure?
Sorry, I was trying to find guides earlier and thats what a few of the cooking ones suggested...
Well, yeah, but you can do that with the lid tightened down and everything...
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5622248 - 05/12/06 06:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok, very few seconds widget number 1 pops up and hisses like I thought it would. I'm guessing its some sort of pressure release. Is that ok? Or should it not be doing that?
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: wiggles]
#5622255 - 05/12/06 06:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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thats right. what PSI is it at?
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5622263 - 05/12/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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0 according to the gauge :/
I'm not sure if its boiling or not yet since its on the small burner... our larger burner is out of commission right now. It normally takes awhile for larget pots to boil
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: monstermitch]
#5622273 - 05/12/06 06:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The widget #1 is a spring loaded pressure release valve. The ball goes in first then the pin with the spring around it. When properly assembled the pin should only pull up not push down. You have an older model, but a very goode one. Bad news is it can kill you. The older ones have NO safety valve. If you leave it and the pressure gets to high because you adjusted it wrong, your parents have a new skylight in the kitchen. Remember steam expands from water 1000 times. BOOM. Put your jars in, sitting on the supplied bottom jar rest, or if that is missing, use a wash rag, to avoid cracking the jars. Put a few inches of water in. Screw down the lid. Usually there is one arrow on each, the lid and the pan, that you line up. Screw down the wing nuts in opposite pairs. One in front, one in back, then one on the right and then one on the left. This alternate method helps keep the lid sealed and keeps it from sticking when your trying to get it off. By the way the other screw is to bleed the remaining pressure. Tighten both down. Fire up the stove and don't leave. Keep thumping the gauge, it will be sticky and jump by 3-5 pounds each time after it gets hot. When you get close to 15psi begin to really cut the heat down, and very slowely unscrew widget number 1. When you get close it will start to release small amounts of steam. If the fire is too hot or if you are unscrewing the widget #1 to fast it will blow out all the steam and scare the crap out of you. Start over. Tweak the #1 until it holds around 15psi. Don't forget to use the heat on the stove, as a fine adjustment. When your done let the entire thing cool until the gauge reads 0psi. Then unscrew the other screw "2 to bleed out any remaining pressure. unscrew the lid. Use a WOODEN handeled spoon to seperate the lid from the pot, otherwise you will bend the aluminum and brass. BE careful NEVER leave the thing alone. Good luck. I have the exact same one, I love it, but it's dangerous as shit....douchebag.
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: wiggles]
#5622281 - 05/12/06 06:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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its not supposed to release steam until a good amount of pressure is built, usually between 15 and 22 PSI
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: douchebag]
#5622286 - 05/12/06 06:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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If its spring loaded, it sounds like I might be missing the spring then 
Any idea where I can get a replacement? That would explain why I can't gt it to build pressure yet.
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: wiggles]
#5622302 - 05/12/06 07:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nevermind, I'm a moron. It must have shot out while I was taking apart the widgetes.. i just found the spring on my floor. 
edit: Spring is back in place - giving it another go. Will report back.
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: wiggles]
#5622321 - 05/12/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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LOL! good luck man
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5622361 - 05/12/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok.. I managed to get it up to 6psi but at that point I noticed water starting to bubble up the edges at 2 spots. I'm guessing I didn't have the lid on tight enough. I'll wait for it to cool down and give it one more shot for the night. Thanks for being patient with me guys, I'm kind of skiddish working with things like this, hah.
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: wiggles]
#5622389 - 05/12/06 07:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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safety first.
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: monstermitch]
#5622461 - 05/12/06 07:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok.. 2 tries and 2 minor burns later (I used the pressure exhaust and I thought it was cold.. but apparently it just killed the nerves fast enough for me not to feel the burn, heh)... anyhoo, its back on the stove. I'll report back once more.
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: wiggles]
#5622527 - 05/12/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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i would make sure all them black bolt things are as tight as possible.
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: wiggles]
#5622569 - 05/12/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Got it!!! It seems like once I let the flame hover at about half blast, the gauge seems to hover at 15PSI, without any adjustment on the spring valve thingie. After getting burnt, i think I feel a touch more comfy adjusting the pressure with the flame than I do with the spring. Thanks so much guys, I appreciate all of your help Thanks!!!
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: wiggles]
#5622574 - 05/12/06 08:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hell yeah 
no prob thats what we are here for.
keep us updated on your grow, do you plan on spawning somehting?
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: Psychoslut]
#5622905 - 05/12/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The best tip I can now give you is not to adjust the pressure valve, once you get it to stay at 15 psi next time, simply use a magic marker to mark the widget #1 top and bottom, then only use the flame on the stove as your adjustment, for futrue cooks. It works much better and no steam burns. Sounds like you hav e it...Good job. the douche.
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: douchebag]
#5622965 - 05/12/06 09:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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this scares the shit out of me. you guys out there buying old pressure cookers with no directions and no idea how they work. i did the same thing though. but i actually new how to run one.
save up buy an all american 915. it will be the best investment you ever made. and it comes with directions. the old pressure cooker that i bought only actually sterilized my grain once. and it ran out of water every time and burned the bottom of the jars.
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#5623049 - 05/12/06 09:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I wish I could do that... a lot of my equipment is either improvised or substandard. I'm more broke than your averag person - try being a college kid with a grand a month in bills and you'll know what I mean, ha.
I just needed to figure out how to use the equipment - no need to buy a new AA when I have a perfectly good antique here. Thanks for the suggestion though.
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: wiggles]
#5623062 - 05/12/06 09:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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just looking out for a shroomerite safety. be careful know where the breaker is in ur house to ur stove just incase you can't get close enough turn it off.
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#5623741 - 05/13/06 02:56 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Panel is right next to my stove, shouldn't be a problem
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Re: So i just got my first pressure canner. [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#5623840 - 05/13/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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A pressure canner is only as dangerous as the person operating it.
If someone is dumb enough to leave the flame running when the pressure is running too high perhaps they need to be blown up
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