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Should I do steroids?
#5620250 - 05/12/06 06:22 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, I'm pretty big / ripped as it is....but I wanna take it to the next level, don't mistake me as a lazy fool that doesn't know anything about weightlifting and wants to get huge quick without doing work.
I wanna try and become a model / playgirl and I think this would help me.....possibly
thanks. and let me know what you think about the steroid use....I don't know if I'll do it.....prove me wrong and I might not = )
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Koollay]
#5620252 - 05/12/06 06:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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have fun with small balls
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Koollay]
#5620260 - 05/12/06 06:35 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, I'm pretty big / ripped as it is....but I wanna take it to the next level
sounds like a bad move to take it to the next level by using steroids. the next level would be a mental one, as in being happy with the way you are.
don't fuck up your body using steroids
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Koollay]
#5620274 - 05/12/06 06:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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She says yes... ... But I wouldn't take them.
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: stefan]
#5620276 - 05/12/06 06:47 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah I don't think I'll do it. I'm in perfect health and all the girls like the way I am now. I always am like "should i get bigger, should i do steroids" they're always like "i like the way you are, you are purrrfect" so I guess I wont. Probably make me lose my hair like Hulk hogan and i love my hair!
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Koollay]
#5620296 - 05/12/06 07:07 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The truth is, that everyone laughs at super buff dudes because they seem insecure.... hence the vainity...
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Koollay]
#5620328 - 05/12/06 08:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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pro's - intimidation and thinking your hot shit
cons - small balls, arms so big you can wipe your own ass, looking like a freak, flab if you get huge then decide to stop working out or injure yourself so that you can't
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I would definitely not do steroids.
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: sunit]
#5620355 - 05/12/06 08:22 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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sunit said: have fun with small balls
educate yourself before you open your mouth next time
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Koollay]
#5620365 - 05/12/06 08:28 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I had a buddy that was doing steroids for a while. They made him super agressive and very easily angered. On top of that he had almost uncontrolable sexual urges (roids are synthetic testosterone). He said he was masturbating like 4-5 times a day just to "stay sane."
The mental side effects are enough to make me never want to do them. I learned about the physical side effects in a class I took but I forgot all of them, I'd have to look it up
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Gumby]
#5621022 - 05/12/06 12:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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by the way if I ever did them, I'd do a short cycle & looooow doses...nothing compared to bodybuilders or anything
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Koollay]
#5621045 - 05/12/06 12:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Don't do it.
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Shroomism]
#5621061 - 05/12/06 12:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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come on , you know he wants to
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Koollay]
#5621064 - 05/12/06 12:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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roids = gross you'd look like a fag
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Vvellum]
#5621067 - 05/12/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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so, if you got injured and the doctor prescribed steroids along with other recovery methods you would opt no?
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
#5621083 - 05/12/06 12:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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what doctor?
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
#5621091 - 05/12/06 12:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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steroids for medical reasons is different than steroids to bulk up like a freak.
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yeah that too
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Shroomism]
#5621140 - 05/12/06 12:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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they are the same chemicals in a lot of cases
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
#5621149 - 05/12/06 12:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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goobler said: they are the same chemicals in a lot of cases
Used for a different purpose and in different doses, guided by a medical doctor.
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
#5621155 - 05/12/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah but the difference lies in need of use and moderation I think. As for me... when I get injured, I am the doctor. I didn't study herbs and nutrition and crap for fun.
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
#5621157 - 05/12/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you want to make yourself feel better and pursue a career in modeling, I'd say go for it.
You say you're already ripped, so do you REALLY need it?
I'm going to diagnose you with a case of manorexia.
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Quote:
bellylard said:
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goobler said: they are the same chemicals in a lot of cases
Used for a different purpose and in different doses, guided by a medical doctor.
you dont think most of these body builders/athletes are guided by a doctor?
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
#5621167 - 05/12/06 12:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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goobler said:
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bellylard said:
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goobler said: they are the same chemicals in a lot of cases
Used for a different purpose and in different doses, guided by a medical doctor.
you dont think most of these body builders/athletes are guided by a doctor?
Maybe the pros. I'd like to see what an ordinary family doc is going to say when you ask him to help you use steroids.
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you would be surprised
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
#5621174 - 05/12/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm just curious goobs - why do you?
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
#5621177 - 05/12/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I probably wouldn't be. Most doctors are in it for the money.
Doctors don't make money if no one gets sick.
That's where the pharmaceutical companies come into play.
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
#5621185 - 05/12/06 12:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ya I would be. Those kinds of doses would be fishy to most pharmacies and I doubt most doctors would take that kind of risk. They would be assisting use of an illegal substance(non-medical use)
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When you're administered Steroids for an injury, the levels you take are different from when you're building bulk with them. Whether guided by a doctor or not, you're taking a Much smaller dosage for injuries than you are for body building.
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Gumby]
#5621192 - 05/12/06 12:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Gumby said: He said he was masturbating like 4-5 times a day just to "stay sane."

I know how that goes.
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I don't
although I have had some when I was injured
always wanted to but I really lack the motivation to work that hard...I mean you should top out on what you can do naturally before you go the next step(IMO)....
I'd rather have a Guinness or a scotch after lifting than a rice cake
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Maverick]
#5621199 - 05/12/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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yes but you still can reap some benefits of the elevated hormone levels
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Koollay]
#5621214 - 05/12/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sounds like a good idea to me.
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
#5621294 - 05/12/06 01:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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the steroids you get at the doctor are ususally Corticosteroids, used to boost your immune system or help you get over injuries better or arthiritis, mandy different things, not anabolic steriods which is what bodybuilders use.....
http://arthritis.about.com/od/steroids/f/anabolicsteroid.htm
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
#5621333 - 05/12/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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My grandma got steriods for some reason... it was prescribed. Also I think my dad got them when his tendonitis was really bad (he couldn't even pick up a glass to drink).
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I hear anavar is pretty safe compared to most steroids...like dbol....etc
And less side effects....less gains though
But the gains stay with anavar more then any other steroids....big increase in strengh......They are a lot of $$ this is what most girl bodybuilders take but they also take other stuff obviously ;p
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Koollay]
#5622328 - 05/12/06 07:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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dont do it those guys look like they could pop with the touch of a pin. and when they lift they look like they are crappen' themselves soooo hard!!!
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Koollay]
#5622412 - 05/12/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Number one, I think everyone should educate themselves on steroids before they go flaunting a bunch of taboo. I don't really want to say it, but I'm ashamed at the level of hipocracy here. This is the shroomery. I hope you guys are just baked and having a good friday night..
For one, I do take some offense to how it was said that big body builders are seen as insecure.... do you know what kind of sedentary life bb'ers live??? My goodness, I've only been seriously lifting for about a year now, but I can completely understand what kind of training and dedication it takes. I go to bed at 8pm every night, wake up at 4pm... eat half a dozen egg whites a day, eat and drink healthy shit that makes me want to puke, I absolutely never drink, don't drug anymore, smoke an average of .5g of weed a week at the very most and spend hours researching and hitting up the gym. I am nothing compared to what I will be one day. I'm a small percentage of what I can be. But at least I'm trying, and I know that I'll hit my goals if I keep on going. I've nailed every one of them so far.
Bodybuilding is about extreme dedication... you could think of it more or less as something selfish, and I would accept that title over insecure any day. I think that people should respect bodybuilders much more as they're simply misunderstood, something that a LOT of us here could relate to. You all know who you are. Don't go judging others. That's called prejudice.
Perhaps I've over reacting, but that comments are pretty out of line, imo. He already said that he reconsidered... and perhaps this wasn't the most appropriate place to post a thread about roids anyways. Who here can bench their own body weight for more than 5 reps? Who can even do 20 pushups in succession? How about girl-pushups from your knees? I doubt that many can. I think you have a lot to learn about people who push iron
Some of the comments here sound a little too "freevibe" if you ask me. I come here to escape the ridicule of our idiot society. When it comes to steroids, you are able to do cycles of them without living up to all the propaganda that circulates just like the psychedelics and drugs that we all respect and love. If you body has too much free testosterone, you don't feel the urge to bust a nut 24/7 or want to kill babies. No, your body aromatizes your hormones and converts all the unused free testosterone into ESTROGEN! Hence the bitch tits. Angry people who use steroids are generally angry meatheads. That's a low blow and taboo.
How many people bitched on these forums about being stereotyped as lazy, burnt out stoners? Yeah, lazy burn outs and weirdos who do drugs generally seem to stand out, but that doesn't mean that everyone who does drugs fits like a puzzle peice into those stereotypes.
I believe that you can do cycles of proanabolics and prohormones, then take care of your body so that your free test DOESN'T aromatize, so you don't grow bitch tits, that you don't run into roid rage, that you don't damage your liver beyond repair and that you will not screw up your lipids, etc, etc, etc. It's been done before. Idiots who take drugs will pay the price, but smart people who take drugs in moderation can easily come out with tons of gains.
It's all up to you though. I wholeheartedly believe that you can pull it off VERY safely if you just put the time into it and research this. But if you aren't going to be 100% dedicated, then just eat more and train smarter like the rest of the cats who work out hardcore.
Bah... sorry if I'm bitchy right now. I haven't had enough sleep today. Actually I have... lol. It just hit a nerve. C'mon guys, don't stereotype, don't be prejudice, and please don't hate what you don't understand. I have made some very close friends through this new lifestyle and I really respect what they've done with themselves. I would rather do this than program computers anymore, work for people who don't appreciate my blood and sweat, and do something that will stick with me as long as I stick with it. It's the perfect lifestyle/hobby/sport or whatever the heck ya want to call it.
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: browndustin]
#5622441 - 05/12/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok small balls
jk
"Perhaps I've over reacting, but that comments are pretty out of line, imo. He already said that he reconsidered... and perhaps this wasn't the most appropriate place to post a thread about roids anyways. Who here can bench their own body weight for more than 5 reps? Who can even do 20 pushups in succession? How about girl-pushups from your knees? I doubt that many can. I think you have a lot to learn about people who push iron"
I can 
Good post. I just don't think theres enough information about how to use steroids safely, although in ways I'm sure it can be done.
Well...I guess why can't you take shortcust(drugs) to body develpment(or freakness) like you can take shortcuts(drugs) to mind development(some would say freakness)
this where you getitng at browndustin?
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: browndustin]
#5622450 - 05/12/06 07:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Im really ripped and it wasen't hard to get the way i am. I look better then pro bodybuilders, but a lot smaller....more ripped...think of bruce lee on low doses of steroids...thats me.........
i workout like an hour a day it is not that hard to me because I've been working out all my life, it's like eating a donut to a cop
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Koollay]
#5622456 - 05/12/06 07:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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check out steroidology.com for the forum itll tell you all about it...im pretty sure thats the right uirl
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bellylard said: Good post. I just don't think theres enough information about how to use steroids safely, although in ways I'm sure it can be done.
Well...I guess why can't you take shortcust(drugs) to body develpment(or freakness) like you can take shortcuts(drugs) to mind development(some would say freakness)
this where you getitng at browndustin?
To be honest, it was more or less of a rant. But this is something that I can agree with. I take supplements to get where I'm at... sure I could do things differently, but if I know how to get there faster then why not? Everyone drinks whey protein... is this cheating? Are steroids cheating? Any why?
I think that the best way to achieve your goals would be the pathes that cause the least damage in essence. Don't fuck yourself up or anything, but if you can exploit something like an idea or knowledge that others aren't aware of then go for it. I've always been like this... not just on bb'ing either. You're almost depriving yourself otherwise.
I also respect your opinion about not enough being known to warrant their use... well, I felt that way as well (I used to hate all drugs for that matter), but I realized that these people are the authority on steroids. Doctors perscribed steroids during the golden days of bb'ing, how do you think these soon to be meatheads would have discovered all of this? I don't see anyone working out in lab coats with clip boards.. but they sure have evolved. As far as science is concerned, there is a lot. A family doctor will tell you that creatine and protein are bad, going to fuck up your liver and all this shit, but that's not in the real world. We don't know everything, but if some tough bugger works hard, trains and diets smart, they can use high amounts of creatine and protein without damaging their livers. O Rly!?!?
I think that text books can say one thing, but it should be taken with a grain of salt. Talk to your doctor before taking supplements, read medical books, check out everything you can on pubmed, try things out and see what works for you. According to family doctors, bb'ers should be dead. They shouldn't be such anabolic beasts, but they are. And a lot of them are healthy as fuck. Technically you could assume that most, if not all bb'ers should have tons of problems like diabetes. I take maltodexterin before working out because of the insulin spike, but I don't have diabetes. I don't have iron problems anymore with my blood, and I'm in the best shape of my life. Who would have thought that putting so much time in the gym would be good for you.
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: browndustin]
#5622597 - 05/12/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Man...I wish I had your dedication. For several months I was trying to bulk up. I ate a shitload of food and lifted heavy weights. I went from the low 130's up to 147 pounds. Then I got lazy... I stopped eating the 3,500 to 4,000 calories I had been taking in every day, I started riding my bike, and I stopped lifting weights too.. And blammo...I started to get skinny again.
Now I'm back to 140 pounds. I am somewhat more cut now though because I got rid of some of the mild flab I put on when I was trying to bulk up. I now just do push-ups, pull-ups, and crunches.
I'll take a pic of me without my shirt on if you want me to.
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5622902 - 05/12/06 09:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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In my early 20's, I used them fairly extensively. I was playing varsity football at the time.
There are several ridiculous misconceptions about them floating around. I personally hate when substances are subject to misinformation and ignorance (ie: as many rec drugs are) so I'd like to address a few of them now.
1.) "Your liver will turn to mush": Not true. With injectable steroids liver damage is extremely minimal, and even with responsible oral usage and liver protection (silymarin extract, alpha lipoic acid) the damage is minimal. Notice I say responsible. If you take handfuls of anadrol or dbol you're asking for trouble.
2.) "They make you a cocky asshole": Bullshit. Some people use their roid habit as an excuse to me a prick. Roid rage is a complete and total myth. People do vary, but I personally felt very happy and empathetic while using.
3.) "Your muscle will turn to fat if you stop using": Muscle is comprised of bundles of protein filaments. Fat is stored triglycerides. Changing the former into the latter is akin to changing lead into gold. Can't happen.
4.) "If I take steroids I can get huge without working out": Not a chance. Steroids increase muscular ability to regenerate. That's all. In order for a muscle to regenerate, you have to subject it to trauma. Significant trauma...aka: working your ass off at the gym.
However, some "myths" about roid usage ARE based on truth. They include:
1.) "Your balls will shrink": Entirely possible. Steroids inhibit natural production of testosterone and put your leydig cells to sleep. In some people, this can cause ball shrinkage.
2.) "You will get bitch tits": If you're not careful. However, with the plethora of anti-estrogenic medicine that is now readily available (arimidex, clomid/nolvadex, letrazole, etc etc) this can be easily prevented.
3.) "You will go bald": Again, easily preventable with various meds, but if you have a family history of male pattern baldness roid usage can accelerate the process.
Anyway, if you do decide to use, please educate yourself. There are many fine websites (in a similar style to this one) with lots and lots of information. I stopped using 3 years ago, but if you are interesting in trying them I'd like to give the following advice:
1.) Don't use them as a crutch. If you haven't been busting your ass in the gym NATURALLY for at least 4-5 years don't waste your time. Max out your natural genetic potential before you use. When I started using I was 6'4" and 245 pounds, bodyfat around 16%. Not exactly Mr. Olympia but I had an excellent base. In hindsight though I wish I was leaner when I started...you do put on fat when you're trying to "bulk" with steroids.
2.) Wait until you're in your 20's. Teenagers have an abundance of natural testosterone...use it!
3.) Don't be a prick. Just because you have big muscles doesn't give you the right to treat people like shit. Don't bully people around at a bar...muscles are overrated in a fight...I'm a pretty big guy but my 170lb best friend would kick my ass 6 ways from sunday.
4.) (I'm biased but this one is especially important to me) USE YOUR MUSCLES! Play a sport, become a fireman, have a purpose. Being big for the sake of being big is kind of gay.
5.) Educate, educate, educate! Before I joined this board all I knew of shrooms was that they were a.) grown on shit and b.) were capable of destroying your brain. Stop the spread of misinformation about steroids...learn! In the process of learning about steroids you will also learn alot about the human body and human physiology in general...its pretty interesting.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go shoot up and pick a fight with 25 frat guys! (kidding, kidding)
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Koollay]
#5622922 - 05/12/06 09:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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roids are the way to go
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5624856 - 05/13/06 02:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Like I always say, post some titties. 
Wow, great post Viking!
See, that's exactly what it's all about. Education, moderation and respect. The same three principals can be applied to anything. Some people can perfect their physiques because they put their minds to it. No amount of steroids can replace hard work and dedication. Steroids give you an anabolic edge and LET you work in the gym twice as hard and built practically as much muscle and you can fuel. Kudos to the tought mother fuckers who've been through hell and back. And as far as the natural guys are concerned, same thing. Props to em all.
Keep working hard, koolay. And everyone else too, I'm actually off to go workout chest. I might take pictures because I just cut a bit of body fat and starting to lose the farmers tan. It's bad when you're flip. Shaved my head so I look badass too (I look 5 years older when I get a short haircut). Peace.
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: sunit]
#5624874 - 05/13/06 02:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
sunit said: have fun with small balls
They only shrink if you do not cycle them right
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Terrapin77]
#5626152 - 05/13/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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hehe cycle your balls
I mean not digging up a really old thread for no reason!
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Edited by Wysefool (05/13/06 08:40 PM)
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Wysefool]
#5626380 - 05/13/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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a lot of people who use steroids regularly have bodies which produce less testosterone on its own. I saw a documentary where a guy used to use them, later on after quitting his doctor said he was left with the testosterone levels of a 12 year old girl. Not worth it in my opinion unless your looking for a lifetime of heart problems and breasts. Girls have an enlarged clit to look forward to, many compare it to a small penis. Personally, I'm not interested.
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: grimR]
#5626402 - 05/13/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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people who take steroids become majorly aggressive. ive seen it happen.
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: grimR]
#5626407 - 05/13/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not sure if you've read any of the posts on page 3, but the after affects like low test and gynomastia are a problem that was quickly curbed in like the late 70's and early 80's dude.
Google the terms "post cycle therapy" and you will understand why. You will find that steroids do nothing to your penis, and heart problems and low lipid profiles can be EASILY remedied.
If you're going to be taking steroids, one would assume that you've been working your ASS off for years and are well aware of the side-effects. If not, then yes, you will run into heart problems and bitch titties. You probably deserve it for having an inflated ego as well.
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: browndustin]
#5626573 - 05/13/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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i like bitch titties
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: eligal]
#5626603 - 05/13/06 10:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bitch titties are hilarious.
As some might remember, I work at a call center so you can bet I see a lot of those everyday. Hahah... walking around with their little puffy titties jiggling up and down. My workplace is the most concentrated area of lardness in town, that's for sure. It's gross.
But then again, there's some maaaaddddd hotties there! SMOKIN!
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