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Koollay
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Koollay]
#5622456 - 05/12/06 07:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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check out steroidology.com for the forum itll tell you all about it...im pretty sure thats the right uirl
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browndustin
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bellylard said: Good post. I just don't think theres enough information about how to use steroids safely, although in ways I'm sure it can be done.
Well...I guess why can't you take shortcust(drugs) to body develpment(or freakness) like you can take shortcuts(drugs) to mind development(some would say freakness)
this where you getitng at browndustin?
To be honest, it was more or less of a rant. But this is something that I can agree with. I take supplements to get where I'm at... sure I could do things differently, but if I know how to get there faster then why not? Everyone drinks whey protein... is this cheating? Are steroids cheating? Any why?
I think that the best way to achieve your goals would be the pathes that cause the least damage in essence. Don't fuck yourself up or anything, but if you can exploit something like an idea or knowledge that others aren't aware of then go for it. I've always been like this... not just on bb'ing either. You're almost depriving yourself otherwise.
I also respect your opinion about not enough being known to warrant their use... well, I felt that way as well (I used to hate all drugs for that matter), but I realized that these people are the authority on steroids. Doctors perscribed steroids during the golden days of bb'ing, how do you think these soon to be meatheads would have discovered all of this? I don't see anyone working out in lab coats with clip boards.. but they sure have evolved. As far as science is concerned, there is a lot. A family doctor will tell you that creatine and protein are bad, going to fuck up your liver and all this shit, but that's not in the real world. We don't know everything, but if some tough bugger works hard, trains and diets smart, they can use high amounts of creatine and protein without damaging their livers. O Rly!?!?
I think that text books can say one thing, but it should be taken with a grain of salt. Talk to your doctor before taking supplements, read medical books, check out everything you can on pubmed, try things out and see what works for you. According to family doctors, bb'ers should be dead. They shouldn't be such anabolic beasts, but they are. And a lot of them are healthy as fuck. Technically you could assume that most, if not all bb'ers should have tons of problems like diabetes. I take maltodexterin before working out because of the insulin spike, but I don't have diabetes. I don't have iron problems anymore with my blood, and I'm in the best shape of my life. Who would have thought that putting so much time in the gym would be good for you.
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RandalFlagg
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: browndustin]
#5622597 - 05/12/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Man...I wish I had your dedication. For several months I was trying to bulk up. I ate a shitload of food and lifted heavy weights. I went from the low 130's up to 147 pounds. Then I got lazy... I stopped eating the 3,500 to 4,000 calories I had been taking in every day, I started riding my bike, and I stopped lifting weights too.. And blammo...I started to get skinny again.
Now I'm back to 140 pounds. I am somewhat more cut now though because I got rid of some of the mild flab I put on when I was trying to bulk up. I now just do push-ups, pull-ups, and crunches.
I'll take a pic of me without my shirt on if you want me to.
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Viking
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5622902 - 05/12/06 09:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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In my early 20's, I used them fairly extensively. I was playing varsity football at the time.
There are several ridiculous misconceptions about them floating around. I personally hate when substances are subject to misinformation and ignorance (ie: as many rec drugs are) so I'd like to address a few of them now.
1.) "Your liver will turn to mush": Not true. With injectable steroids liver damage is extremely minimal, and even with responsible oral usage and liver protection (silymarin extract, alpha lipoic acid) the damage is minimal. Notice I say responsible. If you take handfuls of anadrol or dbol you're asking for trouble.
2.) "They make you a cocky asshole": Bullshit. Some people use their roid habit as an excuse to me a prick. Roid rage is a complete and total myth. People do vary, but I personally felt very happy and empathetic while using.
3.) "Your muscle will turn to fat if you stop using": Muscle is comprised of bundles of protein filaments. Fat is stored triglycerides. Changing the former into the latter is akin to changing lead into gold. Can't happen.
4.) "If I take steroids I can get huge without working out": Not a chance. Steroids increase muscular ability to regenerate. That's all. In order for a muscle to regenerate, you have to subject it to trauma. Significant trauma...aka: working your ass off at the gym.
However, some "myths" about roid usage ARE based on truth. They include:
1.) "Your balls will shrink": Entirely possible. Steroids inhibit natural production of testosterone and put your leydig cells to sleep. In some people, this can cause ball shrinkage.
2.) "You will get bitch tits": If you're not careful. However, with the plethora of anti-estrogenic medicine that is now readily available (arimidex, clomid/nolvadex, letrazole, etc etc) this can be easily prevented.
3.) "You will go bald": Again, easily preventable with various meds, but if you have a family history of male pattern baldness roid usage can accelerate the process.
Anyway, if you do decide to use, please educate yourself. There are many fine websites (in a similar style to this one) with lots and lots of information. I stopped using 3 years ago, but if you are interesting in trying them I'd like to give the following advice:
1.) Don't use them as a crutch. If you haven't been busting your ass in the gym NATURALLY for at least 4-5 years don't waste your time. Max out your natural genetic potential before you use. When I started using I was 6'4" and 245 pounds, bodyfat around 16%. Not exactly Mr. Olympia but I had an excellent base. In hindsight though I wish I was leaner when I started...you do put on fat when you're trying to "bulk" with steroids.
2.) Wait until you're in your 20's. Teenagers have an abundance of natural testosterone...use it!
3.) Don't be a prick. Just because you have big muscles doesn't give you the right to treat people like shit. Don't bully people around at a bar...muscles are overrated in a fight...I'm a pretty big guy but my 170lb best friend would kick my ass 6 ways from sunday.
4.) (I'm biased but this one is especially important to me) USE YOUR MUSCLES! Play a sport, become a fireman, have a purpose. Being big for the sake of being big is kind of gay.
5.) Educate, educate, educate! Before I joined this board all I knew of shrooms was that they were a.) grown on shit and b.) were capable of destroying your brain. Stop the spread of misinformation about steroids...learn! In the process of learning about steroids you will also learn alot about the human body and human physiology in general...its pretty interesting.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go shoot up and pick a fight with 25 frat guys! (kidding, kidding)
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eligal
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Koollay]
#5622922 - 05/12/06 09:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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roids are the way to go
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browndustin
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5624856 - 05/13/06 02:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Like I always say, post some titties. 
Wow, great post Viking!
See, that's exactly what it's all about. Education, moderation and respect. The same three principals can be applied to anything. Some people can perfect their physiques because they put their minds to it. No amount of steroids can replace hard work and dedication. Steroids give you an anabolic edge and LET you work in the gym twice as hard and built practically as much muscle and you can fuel. Kudos to the tought mother fuckers who've been through hell and back. And as far as the natural guys are concerned, same thing. Props to em all.
Keep working hard, koolay. And everyone else too, I'm actually off to go workout chest. I might take pictures because I just cut a bit of body fat and starting to lose the farmers tan. It's bad when you're flip. Shaved my head so I look badass too (I look 5 years older when I get a short haircut). Peace.
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Terrapin77
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: sunit]
#5624874 - 05/13/06 02:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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sunit said: have fun with small balls
They only shrink if you do not cycle them right
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Wysefool
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Terrapin77]
#5626152 - 05/13/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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hehe cycle your balls
I mean not digging up a really old thread for no reason!
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Edited by Wysefool (05/13/06 08:40 PM)
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grimR
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Wysefool]
#5626380 - 05/13/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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a lot of people who use steroids regularly have bodies which produce less testosterone on its own. I saw a documentary where a guy used to use them, later on after quitting his doctor said he was left with the testosterone levels of a 12 year old girl. Not worth it in my opinion unless your looking for a lifetime of heart problems and breasts. Girls have an enlarged clit to look forward to, many compare it to a small penis. Personally, I'm not interested.
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KidgardFromSRQ
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: grimR]
#5626402 - 05/13/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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people who take steroids become majorly aggressive. ive seen it happen.
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browndustin
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: grimR]
#5626407 - 05/13/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not sure if you've read any of the posts on page 3, but the after affects like low test and gynomastia are a problem that was quickly curbed in like the late 70's and early 80's dude.
Google the terms "post cycle therapy" and you will understand why. You will find that steroids do nothing to your penis, and heart problems and low lipid profiles can be EASILY remedied.
If you're going to be taking steroids, one would assume that you've been working your ASS off for years and are well aware of the side-effects. If not, then yes, you will run into heart problems and bitch titties. You probably deserve it for having an inflated ego as well.
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eligal
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: browndustin]
#5626573 - 05/13/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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i like bitch titties
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browndustin
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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: eligal]
#5626603 - 05/13/06 10:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bitch titties are hilarious.
As some might remember, I work at a call center so you can bet I see a lot of those everyday. Hahah... walking around with their little puffy titties jiggling up and down. My workplace is the most concentrated area of lardness in town, that's for sure. It's gross.
But then again, there's some maaaaddddd hotties there! SMOKIN!
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