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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
    #5621155 - 05/12/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah but the difference lies in need of use and moderation I think.
As for me... when I get injured, I am the doctor. I didn't study herbs and nutrition and crap for fun.


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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
    #5621157 - 05/12/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If you want to make yourself feel better and pursue a career in modeling, I'd say go for it.

You say you're already ripped, so do you REALLY need it?

I'm going to diagnose you with a case of manorexia.


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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: barfightlard]
    #5621165 - 05/12/06 12:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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they are the same chemicals in a lot of cases




Used for a different purpose and in different doses, guided by a medical doctor.




you dont think most of these body builders/athletes are guided by a doctor?


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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
    #5621167 - 05/12/06 12:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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goobler said:
they are the same chemicals in a lot of cases




Used for a different purpose and in different doses, guided by a medical doctor.




you dont think most of these body builders/athletes are guided by a doctor?




Maybe the pros. I'd like to see what an ordinary family doc is going to say when you ask him to help you use steroids.


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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: barfightlard]
    #5621170 - 05/12/06 12:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

you would be surprised


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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
    #5621174 - 05/12/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'm just curious goobs - why do you?


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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
    #5621177 - 05/12/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I probably wouldn't be. Most doctors are in it for the money.

Doctors don't make money if no one gets sick.

That's where the pharmaceutical companies come into play.


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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
    #5621185 - 05/12/06 12:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ya I would be. Those kinds of doses would be fishy to most pharmacies and I doubt most doctors would take that kind of risk. They would be assisting use of an illegal substance(non-medical use)


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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: barfightlard]
    #5621186 - 05/12/06 12:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

When you're administered Steroids for an injury, the levels you take are different from when you're building bulk with them. Whether guided by a doctor or not, you're taking a Much smaller dosage for injuries than you are for body building.


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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Gumby]
    #5621192 - 05/12/06 12:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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He said he was masturbating like 4-5 times a day just to "stay sane."




:crazy2:

I know how that goes.


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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5621196 - 05/12/06 12:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I don't

although I have had some when I was injured

always wanted to but I really lack the motivation to work that hard...I mean you should top out on what you can do naturally before you go the next step(IMO)....

I'd rather have a Guinness or a scotch after lifting than a rice cake


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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Maverick]
    #5621199 - 05/12/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yes but you still can reap some benefits of the elevated hormone levels


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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Koollay]
    #5621214 - 05/12/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds like a good idea to me.  :ohwell:


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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
    #5621294 - 05/12/06 01:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the steroids you get at the doctor are ususally Corticosteroids, used to boost your immune system or help you get over injuries better or arthiritis, mandy different things, not anabolic steriods which is what bodybuilders use.....

http://arthritis.about.com/od/steroids/f/anabolicsteroid.htm

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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: goobler]
    #5621333 - 05/12/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

My grandma got steriods for some reason... it was prescribed. Also I think my dad got them when his tendonitis was really bad (he couldn't even pick up a glass to drink).


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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5622287 - 05/12/06 06:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I hear anavar is pretty safe compared to most steroids...like dbol....etc

And less side effects....less gains though

But the gains stay with anavar more then any other steroids....big increase in strengh......They are a lot of $$ this is what most girl bodybuilders take but they also take other stuff obviously ;p


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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Koollay]
    #5622328 - 05/12/06 07:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

dont do it those guys look like they could pop with the touch of a pin.  and when they lift they look like they are crappen' themselves soooo hard!!! :glittershitz: :glittershitz:


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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: Koollay]
    #5622412 - 05/12/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Number one, I think everyone should educate themselves on steroids before they go flaunting a bunch of taboo. I don't really want to say it, but I'm ashamed at the level of hipocracy here. This is the shroomery. I hope you guys are just baked and having a good friday night..

For one, I do take some offense to how it was said that big body builders are seen as insecure.... do you know what kind of sedentary life bb'ers live??? My goodness, I've only been seriously lifting for about a year now, but I can completely understand what kind of training and dedication it takes. I go to bed at 8pm every night, wake up at 4pm... eat half a dozen egg whites a day, eat and drink healthy shit that makes me want to puke, I absolutely never drink, don't drug anymore, smoke an average of .5g of weed a week at the very most and spend hours researching and hitting up the gym. I am nothing compared to what I will be one day. I'm a small percentage of what I can be. But at least I'm trying, and I know that I'll hit my goals if I keep on going. I've nailed every one of them so far.

Bodybuilding is about extreme dedication... you could think of it more or less as something selfish, and I would accept that title over insecure any day. I think that people should respect bodybuilders much more as they're simply misunderstood, something that a LOT of us here could relate to. You all know who you are. Don't go judging others. That's called prejudice.

Perhaps I've over reacting, but that comments are pretty out of line, imo. He already said that he reconsidered... and perhaps this wasn't the most appropriate place to post a thread about roids anyways. Who here can bench their own body weight for more than 5 reps? Who can even do 20 pushups in succession? How about girl-pushups from your knees? I doubt that many can. I think you have a lot to learn about people who push iron

Some of the comments here sound a little too "freevibe" if you ask me. I come here to escape the ridicule of our idiot society. When it comes to steroids, you are able to do cycles of them without living up to all the propaganda that circulates just like the psychedelics and drugs that we all respect and love. If you body has too much free testosterone, you don't feel the urge to bust a nut 24/7 or want to kill babies. No, your body aromatizes your hormones and converts all the unused free testosterone into ESTROGEN! Hence the bitch tits. Angry people who use steroids are generally angry meatheads. That's a low blow and taboo.

How many people bitched on these forums about being stereotyped as lazy, burnt out stoners? Yeah, lazy burn outs and weirdos who do drugs generally seem to stand out, but that doesn't mean that everyone who does drugs fits like a puzzle peice into those stereotypes.

I believe that you can do cycles of proanabolics and prohormones, then take care of your body so that your free test DOESN'T aromatize, so you don't grow bitch tits, that you don't run into roid rage, that you don't damage your liver beyond repair and that you will not screw up your lipids, etc, etc, etc. It's been done before. Idiots who take drugs will pay the price, but smart people who take drugs in moderation can easily come out with tons of gains.

It's all up to you though. I wholeheartedly believe that you can pull it off VERY safely if you just put the time into it and research this. But if you aren't going to be 100% dedicated, then just eat more and train smarter like the rest of the cats who work out hardcore.

Bah... sorry if I'm bitchy right now. I haven't had enough sleep today. Actually I have... lol. It just hit a nerve. C'mon guys, don't stereotype, don't be prejudice, and please don't hate what you don't understand. I have made some very close friends through this new lifestyle and I really respect what they've done with themselves. I would rather do this than program computers anymore, work for people who don't appreciate my blood and sweat, and do something that will stick with me as long as I stick with it. It's the perfect lifestyle/hobby/sport or whatever the heck ya want to call it. :peace:


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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: browndustin]
    #5622441 - 05/12/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

ok small balls

jk

"Perhaps I've over reacting, but that comments are pretty out of line, imo. He already said that he reconsidered... and perhaps this wasn't the most appropriate place to post a thread about roids anyways. Who here can bench their own body weight for more than 5 reps? Who can even do 20 pushups in succession? How about girl-pushups from your knees? I doubt that many can. I think you have a lot to learn about people who push iron" 

I can :laugh:

Good post.  I just don't think theres enough information about how to use steroids safely, although in ways I'm sure it can be done. 

Well...I guess why can't you take shortcust(drugs) to body develpment(or freakness) like you can take shortcuts(drugs) to mind development(some would say freakness)

this where you getitng at browndustin?


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Re: Should I do steroids? [Re: browndustin]
    #5622450 - 05/12/06 07:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Im really ripped and it wasen't hard to get the way i am. I look better then pro bodybuilders, but a lot smaller....more ripped...think of bruce lee on low doses of steroids...thats me.........

i workout like an hour a day it is not that hard to me because I've been working out all my life, it's like eating a donut to a cop


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