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MindGorilla
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Re: Can my cat trip with me? [Re: Mr_Spliff]
#7770303 - 12/17/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mr_Spliff said: The purpose is to share the experience with them, like many people want to give thier friends shrooms after they try it, exept your pet does not really truely understand whats happening, but I trip out with how my dog will eat peanut BUDder over normle peanut butter. I believe my dog knows that the odd tasting peanut budder will make the room spin, and he like it when the room spins. He just doesnt understand that its really him spining. I have stopped giving my dog peanut butter unless it has something in it so he can learn that peanut butter=wierded out house. The thing is that if he didnt like it why would he continously eat peanut butter. Like the cat why would it eat the shrooms if it didnt like them. Tho I think a cat would generally shy away from a shroom as it just looks wierd, and maybe out of instinct, the same with my dog. I know theres a diffrence between my dog eating peanut butter over and over even tho it fucks the world up and him eating raw shrooms cuz he knows it will fuck the world up, he may just like peanut butter so much he doesnt care if it screws with the world, at least it doesnt fuck with him .
We to were just 'animals' at one point, why was it not wrong for us to eat shrooms or some other active plant? Maybe the shrooms will help animals become more tranquil and more playfull, I know thats what they did to Petrie (my dog), exept in EXCESSIVE amounts, I would pet him and he would piss everywhere, but only when I touched him. I felt bad and feel bad for giving my dog that much, but in small amount once you see that it is affecting your animal, then its time to stop uping the dose and leave it at that, at least for a year so they can really understand that mushies have powers to change the world "around" you.
Ever wonder why a magi's mana is always blue? Me to. I could so see old men boiling shrooms into some concoction and it turning blue. Then they lock themselves in a dungeon for days and shoot fire balls at eachother and to stay alive (or to Revitalize them) they take a potion that was made with ephedra and somehow (would be very easy) make it red, that way you dont convuse the two and take too much mana, and wind up laughing your ass off rolling around on the ground, all the while some big huge dragon is tearing apart your soul, but some how you defeat it, and you tell all the people in the world of your adventures and become Merlin. Thus dungeons and dragons was invented by the ingestion of shrooms. 
just a thought.
How did you go from peanut BUDdder to Merlin and dungeons and dragons? Made me LOL either way.
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iheartpr0n
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Re: Can my cat trip with me? [Re: lozl]
#7770378 - 12/17/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'd say, don't do it. I work at a veterinary hospital, and we have to dose animals with all sorts of drugs. One is Ketamine, and if you don't know what Ketamine is, read about it:
http://erowid.org/chemicals/ketamine/ketamine.shtml
Watching a cat on Ketamine can be freaky. Their pupils get HUGE, they stumble around (in a, sometimes, dangerous way), are completely disoriented, and look totally freaked out. Many tend to cry out and/or scream. You can tell that they don't understand what is going on. It's the same with Morphine and other Opioids (even when given SQ / IM -- slower come up). Most of the cats we have to wrap in a towel, cover their eyes, and hold them close.
I figure it'd be the same with mushrooms or any other hallucinogen. I know you just want to share something beautiful with your friend, but believe me, they are contact trippers. If you're tripping -- you're already going to share something very strong with him.
Have a great trip, and just enjoy being with your wonderful kitty. I know he'll enjoy hanging out with you.
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igwna
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Re: Can my cat trip with me? [Re: Jack86]
#7771815 - 12/17/07 09:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jack86 said: some people on here are fucking morons, how old are you? honestly? what the fuck ? Grow up, take some fucking responsobility and wake up you little gimps. A dog will eat anything, they know no differnet,to people who say just leave it and let them decide? WTF,i honestly dident think this place was so stupid? "they enjoy it"
O really? do they ? do they come up to you and go "Hey im having a smashing time, we must do this again" ? get fucking real you mugs
my dog said that to me once.
once my friend blew smoke into my dogs face and he's always recognized the bud smell and would come over and whimper until he got a hit..
i think that told me he liked it. (though i never blew the smoke in his face myself) but i can definitally see where you're coming from.
i don't personally have a side for whether or not to trip with an animal, i have never intentionally put an animal in that state myself.
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Edited by igwna (12/17/07 09:41 PM)
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Boots
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Re: Can my cat trip with me? [Re: iheartpr0n]
#7771827 - 12/17/07 09:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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To be honest, I wouldn't try to force any hallucinogen on any animal that doesn't know what it's in for. But, maybe you could leave a cap out and see if he eats it and just let it that, but no more. I have no idea what the dosage would be for such a low weight but I imagine it would be far less than what we can handle. Besides, if you're cat is as picky as mine, then he probably won't touch the cap.*
*Not that I've ever attempted to let my cat eat 'shrooms. Just commenting on her being so picky and the grossness of 'shrooms.
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roquet
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Re: Can my cat trip with me? [Re: Boots]
#7772756 - 12/18/07 03:00 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Boots said: I have no idea what the dosage would be for such a low weight but I imagine it would be far less than what we can handle.
there are some scientific articles on the web (sorry I can't be bother to dig up the links) suggesting it would be the same for cats. This could be because their smaller brains are less sensitive to psychedelics. I wonder what mic/kg dose the LSD spiders were on? Probably would have been a thumbprint for a human.
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Re: Can my cat trip with me? [Re: roquet]
#7772769 - 12/18/07 03:17 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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dude this r tard cant be serously considering this if you are go to you tube and watch cat on lsd and tell me he is having a swell time they just dont have the cognitive capasity to understand what the fuck is going on serious dude.
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Jack86
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a dog is a socialble animal, they come up to you non stop to greet, want attention, not becasue they want a smoke. the dog was wimpering becasue they want attention. Are you honestly that diluded (sp) with it that you think it wants a smoke. Fucking idiot.
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Re: Can my cat trip with me? [Re: Jack86]
#7772839 - 12/18/07 04:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've known a dog that definatly wanted pot.
ONly met one though, and I've known more people who's cat supposedly like pot, but the assholes really just forced it to indulge.
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igwna
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Re: Can my cat trip with me? [Re: Jack86]
#7773080 - 12/18/07 08:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jack86 said: a dog is a socialble animal, they come up to you non stop to greet, want attention, not becasue they want a smoke. the dog was wimpering becasue they want attention. Are you honestly that diluded (sp) with it that you think it wants a smoke. Fucking idiot.
so by chance the dog only wants attention when buds being smoked? we sit in the same place all the time and the dog is always off playing in the yard or sleeping or eating, or just wandering around. but as soon as someone breaks out the bud he gets closer and closer and starts wagging his tail. (who usually doesn't wag his tail unless he is acknowledged...)
again, i didn't blow smoke in his face. ever.
you're getting quite hostile over this. some body needs a chill pill.. or a nice blunt.
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Edited by igwna (12/18/07 08:49 AM)
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TheHauntingSoul
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Re: Can my cat trip with me? [Re: igwna]
#7773087 - 12/18/07 08:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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it definately sounds possible considering how awesome it feels to be high, dogs are pretty smart creatures, it wouldn't take them long to figure out that smoke=good feelings
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igwna
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yeah, i tend to doubt that the dog would keep coming back at all if he didn't like it.
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ReoSpeedwagon153


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I skipped many of the pages of useless (I'm sure) responses.
But are any of you guys familiar with the plant CATNIP? Cats seek out this plant, sniff and rub their faces on it, then roll around in drug ecstacy. They go back to the plant the next day when their tolerance is down.
Have you ever heard of ayahuasca? Native legends say that humans discovered the hallucinogenic vine from jungle cats doing the very same thing - chewing and macerating the vine, then rolling around in hallucinogenic ecstacy. It has been documented that jaguars do seek out and chew the ayahuasca vine (the vine of the JAGUAR).
I have offered my cat (when he was in an interested mood) a bottle cap full of ayahuasca and mimosa. He sniffed a couple of times then took a sip. The taste seemed to linger on his mind, because he casually leaned over and took another sip. He knew he was finished, and left. I didn't notice any outright effects, but I am positive the brew had an effect on him.
So no, I don't think that it is MORALLY wrong for humans to offer their pets hallucinogens. Force feeding them drugs is a different story, but merely allowing your cat to take whatever dose of hallucinogen it wants does not seem wrong.
Who are we to say that we know what's going on here, and cats don't. I think that's pretty presumptuous. Cats are held sacred in almost all ancient and indigenous societies. Is there something to that?
I think mr. whiskers can handle it, just make sure you measure out the dose right and give him a reaally small amount, then let him choose to eat it or not. I think he'll eat it.
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ReoSpeedwagon153


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LacunalSense
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For those who haven't seen it -
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EJEw3A_QO9o
When I was vibrating on lsd and holding a self-healed quartz, I grabbed my kitten and it started vibrating similar to the cat in this video, except not quite at the same frequency. There was somebody who wasn't tripping who witnessed this, so it wasn't just a hallucination. The kitten was just barely newborn and obviously very receptive to this energy. Interesting stuff!
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LacunalSense
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Re: Can my cat trip with me? [Re: LacunalSense]
#7777018 - 12/19/07 10:10 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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This one cat we used to smoke weed with used to follow us into the hotbox all the time. It definitely like to get high. What kind of animal wouldn't?
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ReoSpeedwagon153


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Re: Can my cat trip with me? [Re: LacunalSense]
#7777070 - 12/19/07 10:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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That is the THIRD TIME that video has been posted in this thread so far.
Thank you.
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LacunalSense
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I'm aware. It had to go along with my experience
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ReoSpeedwagon153


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Re: Can my cat trip with me? [Re: LacunalSense]
#7777151 - 12/19/07 10:44 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can FEEL what that cat is going through when I watch that video. It doesn't make me feel good...
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LacunalSense
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ReoSpeedwagon153 said: I can FEEL what that cat is going through when I watch that video. It doesn't make me feel good...
Who knows what that cat felt, it could have been expanding out of its body not even aware of pain. Either way, cruel...
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