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OfflineLizard_King12034
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Salvia 10X Dose?
    #5619680 - 05/11/06 11:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ok I just aquired some 10X. I was wondering how much of it I should use? Like a pinch? Is that enough or should I use more? Thanks ahead.


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Re: Salvia 10X Dose? [Re: Lizard_King12034]
    #5619694 - 05/11/06 11:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

half a bowl


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Re: Salvia 10X Dose? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5619709 - 05/12/06 12:02 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i would say typically one large lungful is enough to send you to salvia space.


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Re: Salvia 10X Dose? [Re: IWalkedOnTheMoon]
    #5619716 - 05/12/06 12:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

exactly, about half a bowl... burn it hard, hold it longer then you can. Be prepared to face the unknown...


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Re: Salvia 10X Dose? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5619939 - 05/12/06 01:25 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Half a bowl, hold it til you trip


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Re: Salvia 10X Dose? [Re: Toader]
    #5620164 - 05/12/06 04:49 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Same...

Inhale as much as you can and hold it in for as long as feels comfortable. You should be able to manage 30 seconds + without feeling uncomfortable.

One deep inhale of 10x should be enough provided it's actually 10x and you haven't been ripped. I bought some off eBay that didn't seem to do anything, although it was the first time I'd tried smoking it and I burnt my throat in the process :tongue2:, I don't like smoking in general. Use a bong / shot gun hole if you're similar so the smoke can cool a bit, although that may allow some of the salvinorin to condense it still works fine.

I used 15x extract (standardised I think) and one full inhale. Keep the lighter on it 100% of the way.

The trip is strange because it comes on so quickly that your not totally sure what's going on at first. The first minute or so of mine I just saw some faint patterns and sensations and thought "this isn't that intense". Then things started getting better. My view of the room began to look like a photograph, in that it was too glossy and static. Part of the roof came away as if there was a big rotating cylinder sticking half way into it and halfway out lengthwise, the edges looked like they'd been cut with an exacto knife. The cylinder it's self was invisible, it's surface was what had previously been part of my photograph view of the room. Outside was just darkness. I think I must have closed my eyes then, not sure, but that's when I started entering the other dimensions so to speak. I 'went through' that hole (which would now mean that in reality I'd be on the roof of my house or in my neighbours house) and seemed to be looking at the room from outside. It was in a big dark space on it's own and had 2D walls, like when a room is being built for a computer game or in a CAD program - it's just the room in a big expanse. There was some other room, like a big warehouse, full of 'other lifeforms' that was where my neighbour's house used to be - I'd past through this, on the way out into this empty, dark expanse, and the things in there, that looked like orange cylinders, had been dancing to the music I was listening to, which was now being played through speakers on the ceiling of the warehouse and had additional depth and reverb. The cylinder life forms had been pushing or dragging me towards a double door at the end of the warehouse type room. I didn't want to go through it and was 'fighting' back against the trip mentally. It was at this point that I left this warehouse area and ended up looking at the room(s) from outside in the expanse, maybe 30m or so above them. It was warm and quiet in this area. I also felt like I existed in at least a few places as once, which was probably just very strong memories of the recent events (I'd moved through two or three places, from my bed, to the big room that now existed beside mine and then outside). Then I kind of floated back down towards the room, onto my bed and woke up.

It sounds like it'd drive you crazy but it's more like a lucid dream than a reality. You only really realise what you've experienced after a few minutes of reflection.

I find tripping on my own always produces far better results because I don't have to fight the experience at all to 'fit in' with the people around me.

I would recommend you just lie down on your bed. Quite a lot of people feel as though they're being pushed or sliding in some way, so flat is the best position for me.

I also have some quite repetitive experiences with salvia. A feeling that the room I'm in, or the building, is in some way rotating. Like it's in a big cerment mixer that's turning very slowly. That my feet have magnets on the bottom and are repelling from the floor slightly, so they kind of slide and skid on the floor. Another, perhaps more common one, is kaleidoscope like repeatations of things your vision, or at least multiples of one object. I also feel tingling on my skin quite often, like I have pins and needles all over. That's one of the first things I felt actually, even with the lame eBay extract.


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Re: Salvia 10X Dose? [Re: johnuk]
    #5620644 - 05/12/06 10:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I use no more than 1/50th of a gram of 10x in a short glass pipe with regular lighter. (very efficient)

if I used a waterpipe or bong like contraption I would probably use up to 1/20th of a gram of 10x and a torch lighter.


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Re: Salvia 10X Dose? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5624376 - 05/13/06 11:56 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I did it, but nothing happened. I inhaled and held it in for 30 seconds. But I only unsed a tiny amount. I could feel a little high, like I walked near my window and I could feel the heat and cold alot more signifigantly but nothing else. I'm gonna give it another shot today. Hopefully my body just needs to get it in my system first.


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Re: Salvia 10X Dose? [Re: Lizard_King12034]
    #5624468 - 05/13/06 12:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

now double it and try again.
continue doubling after 5 minute breaks till you find what you like


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Re: Salvia 10X Dose? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5624786 - 05/13/06 02:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I did it yesterday... It was very odd to say the least.

I took a bit hit of 5x waited for 30 seconds. exhaled. nothing visually changed, but i could feel a sence of pressure on my head pushing from all sides. I decided to take another hit, it was really hard to figure out how to light it..

then the mind trip started...

I felt like an animal, but burdend with the complex mind of a human.

Every material object in my house was meaningless to me.

I saw my body differently than before. my hands were nothing but appendages. my feet nothing but


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Re: Salvia 10X Dose? [Re: freezepooter]
    #5627429 - 05/14/06 03:09 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quite impressive you managed to get somewhere with 5x. The pressure or force feeling sounds similar to what I feel, like something is pushing against me.

Salvia has a definite kind of tiered structure to the extracts because, unlike something like weed, you can't really take more than one or two inhales before the experience will be starting. And you can pack more in a bowl, but there's only so much volume you can inhale (and it's met quite quickly by quite small amounts). So you may find that you need a higher strength extract to start getting serious visuals.

I've tried Salvia and shrooms separately but might try combining them soon. Obviously, I'll be going for a very low extract of Salvia at first since it'll probably take very little to make a difference. Has anyone tried this yet?


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