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OfflineLiQuidSlim
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I.D. Please
    #5617735 - 05/11/06 03:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Aight, I found these by an old horse lot growing out of some horse crap.

The Spore Prints are Dark Black.







Thanks.


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Re: I.D. Please [Re: LiQuidSlim]
    #5617744 - 05/11/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Good job on the spore prints....Panaeolus antillarum....NOT active

Basically identical to what your looking for except for the usual quik....strong.....blue - green bruising reaction where touched or cut....


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Re: I.D. Please [Re: LiQuidSlim]
    #5617748 - 05/11/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

looks like Panaeolus antillarum not active.


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Re: I.D. Please [Re: LiQuidSlim]
    #5617766 - 05/11/06 03:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, definately Panaeolus antillarum.


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OfflineLiQuidSlim
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Re: I.D. Please [Re: shroominDole]
    #5617859 - 05/11/06 04:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

shroominDole said:
Good job on the spore prints....Panaeolus antillarum....NOT active

Basically identical to what your looking for except for the usual quik....strong.....blue - green bruising reaction where touched or cut....




Cool, Thanks A Lot.

So the Panaeolus antillarum is very similar to the Psilocybe cubensis?


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InvisibleMESCALATO
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Re: I.D. Please [Re: LiQuidSlim]
    #5617878 - 05/11/06 04:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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LiQuidSlim said:


So the Panaeolus antillarum is very similar to the Psilocybe cubensis?




not really.


thats a cubensis.


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OfflineRhCpFunk55
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Re: I.D. Please [Re: LiQuidSlim]
    #5617888 - 05/11/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

its close but the cubensis has a gill while the antillarum doesnt.


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Re: I.D. Please [Re: RhCpFunk55]
    #5617903 - 05/11/06 04:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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RhCpFunk55 said:
its close but the cubensis has a gill while the antillarum doesnt.




did you mean "veil"?


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OfflineRhCpFunk55
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Re: I.D. Please [Re: MESCALATO]
    #5617910 - 05/11/06 04:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

nope doesnt the cubensis have a gill?


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Re: I.D. Please [Re: RhCpFunk55]
    #5617917 - 05/11/06 04:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

well yeah, both pans and cubes have gills, but only the cube leaves the partial veil around the stem (the purple ring in the pic i posted.)


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Re: I.D. Please [Re: MESCALATO]
    #5617921 - 05/11/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

oh ok yeai gotchya. I just didnt see the gill on his pics up their so i assumed that pan didnt have a gill.


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Re: I.D. Please [Re: RhCpFunk55]
    #5617936 - 05/11/06 04:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Identical to Copelandia (Panaeolus) which all have a BLACK BLACK spore print......

Cubensis have a DARK CHOCOLATE PURPLE BROWN to DARK PURPLE BLACK spores


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Re: I.D. Please [Re: shroominDole]
    #5618147 - 05/11/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: I.D. Please [Re: DaveTX]
    #5618213 - 05/11/06 05:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah ... was going to say he means identical to Copelandia cyanascens, not Psilocybe cubensis.

Both these species grow in the same places under the same conditions. Below is a pic of some Copelandia cyanscens I picked a few years ago. It's hard to see because I was dumb enough to use a blue background, but you should be able to note the blueish bruising on the stems and caps.




Edited by oO_wombat_Oo (05/11/06 05:32 PM)


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Re: I.D. Please [Re: LiQuidSlim]
    #5618544 - 05/11/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Note the veil on the little one beside the key.

Looks more like Panaeolus semiovatus than P. antillarmun to me.


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Re: I.D. Please [Re: shroomydan]
    #5619275 - 05/11/06 10:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That is where the stem had been bent and broke and there is no sign of of veil or annular zone whatsoever on the mushrooms in perfect condition nor is there any sign of one in the pics provided by DaveTX......which is Panaeolus papilionaceus - sphinctrinus - campanulatus group


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Re: I.D. Please [Re: LiQuidSlim]
    #5621261 - 05/12/06 01:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

LiQuidSlim said:
Quote:

shroominDole said:
Good job on the spore prints....Panaeolus antillarum....NOT active

Basically identical to what your looking for except for the usual quik....strong.....blue - green bruising reaction where touched or cut....




Cool, Thanks A Lot.

So the Panaeolus antillarum is very similar to the Psilocybe cubensis?




Actually i think he was refering to copelandia cyanesence, when he said a mushroom similar to antillarums.  If you are in Texas, then its possible to find Cubes as well as Copes.  Ive found them side by side in the same patty before.  Copes are a lot more rare in Texas usually,  but they are stronger than cubes.  And they look almost exactly like the antillarums you found.  Inexperience hunters probably couldnt tell the difference at all.  You just gotta watch for the cream colored tops if the caps, and extreme blue bruising.  Also copes wont be as big or meaty as antillarums most of the time.  Here is a pic of the copes that you want to look for.

http://www.shroomery.org/images/23488/70977-good_cope.jpg

Hope that helps.  :mushroom2: :grin:


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Re: I.D. Please [Re: Shrum821]
    #5621314 - 05/12/06 01:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Shrum821 said:
Quote:

LiQuidSlim said:
Quote:

shroominDole said:
Good job on the spore prints....Panaeolus antillarum....NOT active

Basically identical to what your looking for except for the usual quik....strong.....blue - green bruising reaction where touched or cut....




Cool, Thanks A Lot.

So the Panaeolus antillarum is very similar to the Psilocybe cubensis?




Actually i think he was refering to copelandia cyanesence, when he said a mushroom similar to antillarums.  If you are in Texas, then its possible to find Cubes as well as Copes.  Ive found them side by side in the same patty before.  Copes are a lot more rare in Texas usually,  but they are stronger than cubes.  And they look almost exactly like the antillarums you found.  Inexperience hunters probably couldnt tell the difference at all.  You just gotta watch for the cream colored tops if the caps, and extreme blue bruising.  Also copes wont be as big or meaty as antillarums most of the time.  Here is a pic of the copes that you want to look for.

http://www.shroomery.org/images/23488/70977-good_cope.jpg

Hope that helps.  :mushroom2: :grin:




Man I hate to correct you on this but Copes are NOT rare in Texas......
This is 2 hours of Hunting about 75 miles south of San Antonio.

Found some active Pans that day also....


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Re: I.D. Please [Re: YESSUP]
    #5621330 - 05/12/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Haha I agree. I guess I mis-stated that. I meant that they were rare in comparison to cubes. Although I know a field that produces nothin but copes, and some that produce none at all. I guess its just all about your location and timing.


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Re: I.D. Please [Re: shroominDole]
    #5621477 - 05/12/06 02:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hey Shrum......nice pick / pic......you guys showin off or what.....dang wish I was deep in the heart a......Wombat was showin a bit too above
with a nice haul

Ya your absolutley right and I clarified little above.....


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shroominDole said:Identical to Copelandia (Panaeolus) which all have a BLACK BLACK spore print......

Cubensis have a DARK CHOCOLATE PURPLE BROWN to DARK PURPLE BLACK spores




that looks like was one monster bull / heffer (wouldnt want to run into those horns).....or was it an elephant.....Texans always gotta have the biggest

any Texans around outdo these guys???


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