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High-priced shrooms
#5617472 - 05/11/06 02:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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AFOAF recently bragged about how he was selling eights for $50. "No one else has 'em so I can charge whatever I want."
Capitalism at its finest or ...?
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
#5617492 - 05/11/06 02:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Doesnt matter, cuz if he's bragging, then he's breaking the #1 rule of dealing...talking. Soooo, it will catch up to him in the end.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
#5617540 - 05/11/06 02:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Capitalism at its weakest, actually. This is what happens in the black market. If it were legal, there would likely be more businesses competing for customers. And perhaps more people would feel safe growing their own.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Silversoul]
#5617552 - 05/11/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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That is rather dumb to brag about ripping people off. Maybe it wont affect him from doing it online but that is just stupid.
This site isn't even supporting dealers so tripple gay.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: g00n]
#5617561 - 05/11/06 02:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ripping off implies fraud or theft which did not occur. If both parties agree to a price (this is called bargaining), why is that problematic for you?
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
#5617570 - 05/11/06 02:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I give mine for free (not to fools, however)
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
#5617615 - 05/11/06 03:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's shitty that he does that, especially at how little it costs him to produce, but if people are willing to pay that much then it's just as much their fault as his. If people stop buying from him, he'll (eventually) lower the price. It most likely will catch up to him though.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: demiu5]
#5617666 - 05/11/06 03:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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supply and demand baby! If they don't like it they can get their shrooms someplace else...
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: dr0mni]
#5617718 - 05/11/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's why I break with that capitalistic shit.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: dr0mni]
#5617719 - 05/11/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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dr0mni said: supply and demand baby! If they don't like it they can get their shrooms someplace else...
I totally agree with this mindset. After all, it IS the black market. There is no ripping off when the consumer and supplier are face to face exchanging goods for money. Its only "ripping off" if the said product is "bunk".
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: BlueCoyote]
#5617724 - 05/11/06 03:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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BlueCoyote said:
(not to fools, however)
Damn, I was hopin to get some from you.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: FungusMan]
#5617729 - 05/11/06 03:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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FungusMan said: Its only "ripping off" if the said product is "bunk".
Considering the fact that growing mushrooms is a felony, I'd think of the high prices as hazard pay.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Icelander]
#5617738 - 05/11/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Icelander said:
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BlueCoyote said:
(not to fools, however)
Damn, I was hopin to get some from you.
I may reconsider in your case
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fireworks_god said:
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FungusMan said: Its only "ripping off" if the said product is "bunk".
Considering the fact that growing mushrooms is a felony, I'd think of the high prices as hazard pay.
Peace.
Fucking A!!!!!! If they dont like the price, then tTHEY can spend the time worrying over jars and subs and grow it them damn selves ,lol.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: FungusMan]
#5617752 - 05/11/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well what do you consider bunk? For fifty dollars bunk could mean the quality is lesser than the value, right? If you want to look at it so monetarily, no quality of 3.5grams of dried mushrooms is worth in our society 50 dollars. Completely bunk, I didn't get high 50 dollars worth. The demand is made by me the customer, I set the markets. No? In the end if this was the west id go back with my pistols at noon and ask for twice the dose for no exchange of goods, if not, we'll partner, DRAW!
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Springs]
#5617793 - 05/11/06 03:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Springs said: If you want to look at it so monetarily, no quality of 3.5grams of dried mushrooms is worth in our society 50 dollars.
I could state that no gallon of any octane gas is worth $2.78.
Now, what is the difference?
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Completely bunk, I didn't get high 50 dollars worth.
I've never thought of mushroom experiences as existing on a scale of monetary value.
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The demand is made by me the customer, I set the markets. No?
Perhaps in a subtle way, but for the most part, if someone offers you some mushrooms and you don't like the price, he'll probably just say fuck ya and walk off.
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Not in my town partner! And in my town the people use bikes. and get help from some friendly animals to move big things. haha
That being said the drugs distribution rings are set up so poorly, cant wait untill anarchy
Edited by Springs (05/11/06 03:58 PM)
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Springs]
#5617845 - 05/11/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Springs said: Not in my town partner! And in my town the people use bikes. and get help from some friendly animals to move big things. haha
We ALL cant live in an Amish Community :p
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: FungusMan]
#5617889 - 05/11/06 04:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes you could.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Springs]
#5617907 - 05/11/06 04:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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what the fuck does the price of shrooms have to do with philosophy or sprituality.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: fresh313]
#5617925 - 05/11/06 04:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Many members have claimed that it is highly immoral (and offensive to the Shroom God) to make a profit on such a sacred substance. Is that not a valid topic for discussion?
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
#5617933 - 05/11/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sporetacus said: Ripping off implies fraud or theft which did not occur. If both parties agree to a price (this is called bargaining), why is that problematic for you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripoff
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A ripoff (or rip-off) is a bad deal. Usually it refers to an incident in which a person pays too much for something. A ripoff is distinguished from a scam in that a scam involves wrongdoing such as fraud; a ripoff, on the other hand, is in the eye of the beholder.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
#5617951 - 05/11/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree witth this, it is highly offensive to the Shroom Gods; sale of a sacred substance...It should be given with Love and to help people explore there minds and bodies...you should be weary who you give them to, not everyone should experience mushrooms or may not be time for them to start. I say grow your own substances and share with only close friends and family.BE SAFE!!! Be a Hobbit Grow Your Own!!!
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Silversoul]
#5617957 - 05/11/06 04:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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A purchaser checks the goods and they are of the weight and paterial as claimed. He is aware of the price. He is free to purchase or go elsewhere. There was no rip-off.
Is $10 an eight also a rip-off according to you? If not; why not? What price point qualifies?
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
#5617974 - 05/11/06 04:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sporetacus said: Many members have claimed that it is highly immoral (and offensive to the Shroom God) to make a profit on such a sacred substance. Is that not a valid topic for discussion?
there are no morals and theres no shroom god
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
#5617983 - 05/11/06 04:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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What do you think ?
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: superbob57]
#5617995 - 05/11/06 04:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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it is highly offensive to the Shroom Gods; sale of a sacred substance
Because...? Is sale of a sacred apple also offensive? Do you work for zero compensation?
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
#5618003 - 05/11/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sporetacus said: Is $10 an eight also a rip-off according to you? If not; why not? What price point qualifies?
You said "price point".
Ahem.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: fresh313]
#5618008 - 05/11/06 04:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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there are no morals and theres no shroom god
And hence no valid topics for S&P discussion. It's been nice meeting y'all. You may go home now.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: superbob57]
#5618024 - 05/11/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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It is time for a Sporetacus "Offend the Shroom God Challenge". Five volunteers will unknowingly ingest super high-priced shrooms and five will ingest 'free' shrooms. By the subsequent trip reports we should be able to determine which trippers had which.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
#5618027 - 05/11/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sporetacus said: A purchaser checks the goods and they are of the weight and paterial as claimed. He is aware of the price. He is free to purchase or go elsewhere. There was no rip-off.
Is $10 an eight also a rip-off according to you? If not; why not? What price point qualifies?
All I was doing was correcting you on the definition of a ripoff. Personally, I tend to judge whether something is a ripoff based on how far it deviates from the standard price. Now, $50 for an eighth is twice as much as I usually pay, so to me, it would indeed be a ripoff. If everyone were charging $50 an eighth, then it would not be.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
#5618032 - 05/11/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sporetacus said: It is time for a Sporetacus "Offend the Shroom God Challenge". Five volunteers will unknowingly ingest super high-priced shrooms and five will ingest 'free' shrooms. By the subsequent trip reports we should be able to determine which trippers had which.
If I "unknowingly" take high-priced mushrooms, doesn't that mean it's free for me?
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Silversoul]
#5618041 - 05/11/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Please come up with a better way to test the Shroom God's emotional state as it relates to commerce.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
#5618043 - 05/11/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Isn't it all about compassion, again ? Lack of it leads to free market and the morals of money ?
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
#5618048 - 05/11/06 04:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would think it has more to do with the karma that the dealer gets for selling them at that price.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
#5618050 - 05/11/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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If someone was actually bragging about selling them for that much I pitty them more than those who bought from them. Atleast those who bought the stuff actually profited from the transaction. Those who sell mushrooms for 50 dollars actually lost something.
Edited by stemmer (05/13/06 02:25 PM)
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Silversoul]
#5618060 - 05/11/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Does the Shroom God check how much you pay to decide if he should be angry or not?
Do you believe in a free market?
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: BlueCoyote]
#5618063 - 05/11/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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BlueCoyote said: Isn't it all about compassion, again ? Lack of it leads to free market and the morals of money ?
Compassion is not incompatible with a free market. Putting a price on something helps regulate it so that there aren't surplusses or shortages like the Soviet Union had. Of course, a black market is a bit different than a free market, and that obviously led to a shortage, which allows this dealer to get away with outrageous prices.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5618074 - 05/11/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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What is the price of the work(hours) you put into each eighth.
So what does that translate to? Minimum wage * hours? Current 'real' job wage * hours? Current 'real job' wage * hours plus extra for possible bail, lawyer fees, court costs and time in jail?
Please share the morally 'correct' formula.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Silversoul]
#5618080 - 05/11/06 04:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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If I were to base my shroom trips over all worth in currency 1 trip is worth 10 dollars, your 1/8 for 50 may only provide me with a half trip, half trips are only worth 5 dollars. 10 dollars is the ammount of shroom god I see, shroom gods whole = 10 dollars, half trip = 5 dollars = only shroom gods back. 50 dollars for half trip + 100 dollars for whole trip = no such thing as we have already set that shroom gods total = 10 so we must go into the negative quantitys which = bad trip = no shroom god = ego tripping. $50 1/8 = -$40 = bad trip = rip off.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Springs]
#5618095 - 05/11/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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A visit with the almighty Shroom God is priceless; for everthing else there is VISA...
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Silversoul]
#5618103 - 05/11/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Peoples... Supply and Demand. I've got ___, and you want___. I'm selling it for ___. If you can find it cheaper, more power to you. If not, ___ is the price. Take it or leave it.
It is a business transaction, just like any other.( Albeit illegal) The seller takes most of the risk ( procurring, packaging and sales), and he is entitled to get whatever the market will hold for his time. That being said, Friends should always be taken care of. But to the general public... Peace
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
#5618109 - 05/11/06 05:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Depending on how ripped off your dealer was(which is usually the case), I would expect no more than 30 dollars for an eighth.
At some point you dont want to profit as much off of what so many call god.
Edited by stemmer (05/13/06 02:27 PM)
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deadheadjpc2000 said: Peoples... Supply and Demand. I've got ___, and you want___. I'm selling it for ___. If you can find it cheaper, more power to you. If not, ___ is the price. Take it or leave it.
It is a business transaction, just like any other.( Albeit illegal) The seller takes most of the risk ( procurring, packaging and sales), and he is entitled to get whatever the market will hold for his time. That being said, Friends should always be taken care of. But to the general public... Peace
Nice, concise summation.
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If someone tried to sell me ayahuasca for 30 dollars per trip I would probably give them the finger and walk away(though the trip might just be FAR more intense than 3.5 grams of mushrooms. Thats all im saying.
Weed=hard to grow and it stinks up your house. Mushrooms= leave a mold concoction somewhere and reap the benafits. The dealers will treat their potential cash crop how ever they please.
Yes shrooms should cost money. 50 per eighth=shitty dealer. 30 dollars per eighth= typical. I wouldnt bring god into the scenario unless you are one of the people who believe It shouldnt be sold for cash and give away large amounts of shrooms away for free or for 10 dollars per eighth.
Why dont users of ayahuasca sell ayahuasca and make a shitload of money? HMMMM
Edited by stemmer (05/11/06 05:11 PM)
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5618140 - 05/11/06 05:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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stemmer said: I think the money I make should be an accurate reflection of how much work I did.
Totally negating the "demand" aspect of the equation, eh?
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At some point you dont want to profit off of what so many call god.
Then who will fund your community service?
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
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Stemmer, Can you find it cheaper? Through another source? Then the price is 30. If you don't want to pay it, then don't. The seller will most likely find someone who will. OR, they will realize they are asking to much to move the product, and lower the price. Either way, It's up to you how bad you want it. ( I would give my left nut to met Lucy again) Peace
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stemmer said: I think the money I make should be an accurate reflection of how much work I did.
Totally negating the "demand" aspect of the equation, eh?
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At some point you dont want to profit off of what so many call god.
Then who will fund your community service?
Peace.
If I grew mushrooms or sold drugs which I dont, The buyers would fund my community service. The right way.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
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stemmer said: Im saying its subjective.
What is it that you are saying is subjective?
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Im saying the mushrooms, reguardless of whether you associate them with god should not enter into that simple equasion.
Why not?
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If not simply because they are so fucking easy to grow.
At a great amount of risk, first and foremost.
Not to mention the fact that not very many individuals that would potentially buy mushrooms are aware of how to grow them, or would be in a situation in which they could safely do so, or that they are not interested in investing the time or energy into growing them. Quite notably, the fact that growing mushrooms is a felony would be a strong deterrent.
Now, why should mushrooms not be considered a commodity for which goods and services can be exchanged?
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If they were legal I could make my point more clearly.
Why is that?
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SHit community service, are you kidding?
Offering a service to others, for free, is a community service.
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There are ways to avoid getting busted unless you are a moron...... Same goes when your giving them away for free.
Your point being what?
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I think you missed the point.
You stated "at some point, you will not want to profit" off of mushrooms.
Obviously, growing mushrooms has expenses.
I asked you a simple question; who will fund the community service that you are offering?
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5618309 - 05/11/06 05:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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stemmer said: No im saying you dont know what you are talking about.
Yes, I realize that it is an easy thing to say something like that, but it is really difficult to actually answer questions that are posed.
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Im saying, separate the shroom dealing thing from your "lets pick apart what this guy has to say in the most simple way as is possible".
I asked questions in order for you to respond to them. That is how a discussion works, my friend. Is there any reason why you would not feel compelled to participate in a discussion?
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In other words big guy.........Im saying seperate it from your silly little notion of capitalism that you learned in highschool.
"Big guy"? Does the fact that I have asked you questions regarding what you have expressed make you feel as though I am confronting you? Is it threatening to be asked questions?
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You have a hard time separating these amazing substances from their street value. A value that IS worth it(30 dollars), but even by what is hopefully your own standards has a hilariously high price. I hope you understand that.
Understand what? You don't seem to be interested in discussing this. If you have an idea, it is your responsibility to provide for an understanding.
Now, why is $30 worth it?
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Mushrooms should be cheap.... I made my own rules. Free for some 20 dollars for others. Varying prices really.
Gas prices should be cheap as well. Any reason why they are not?
What is the difference?
Now, let us try this again.
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stemmer said: Im saying the mushrooms, reguardless of whether you associate them with god should not enter into that simple equasion.
Why not?
Peace.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
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stemmer said: Because even then with the potential "far out" taxing and other assholish big business intervention, they would be far cheaper than 30 dollars per eighth.
How do you know that?
A typical magazine these days costs around $8.
A scenic, atmospheric rock fountain costs about $20.
Now, how much would a catalyst for a mindblowing, perception altering experience that is capable of transforming one's life cost?
Are you telling me that such would not be exploited for its true value?
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looks like we have 2 points of view- The seller and The buyer. Opposite sides of fence. The seller wants top $, as anyone would. The buyer wants all he can get for his money. Both have legitimate claims. The balance is achieved when the "deal goes down". Peace
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Im just saying to those who buy them, fuck those ninnys and grow your own. If you cant, then find the right dealer or bite the big one and pay 30-50 I guess..........
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
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stemmer said: The ways that people take advantage of growing simple mushrooms is variable. It depends on how they look at it.
Well, that goes without saying. The person with the goods makes the decision on what they are willing to accept in exchange for the goods.
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You ask alot of stupid questions is all.
And you come up with a lot of stupid answers. Wow, playing that game sure is fun.
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The only one of your stupid questions I will bother to answer is "why 30 dollars"----its worth it for so very many people. Supply and demand as you so simply put it.
Yes, and $15 would be worth it for so very many more people.
Do you have a better answer to that stupid question?
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Im not here to tell you how to sell mushrooms if you grow them.
And I'm not asking for advice on how to sell mushrooms, if I grow them.
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When it comes to mushrooms, depending on how easily you can grow/sell them(mute point when considering what I was saying in the first place). Its a holistic point of view really.
What is the holistic point of view? Your first sentence is incomplete, two prepositional phrases followed by... what? When it comes to mushrooms..... depending on how easily you grow them.... which is a moot point when considering what you were saying in the first place.... what?
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For the time you took to act like you are really "out there" about this subject given the words I had said, I dont expect you to understand the point.
I asked simple questions. How does that put me "out there"?
You don't expect me to understand; I don't expect you to answer any questions.
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Im explaining how an enlightened individual acts when growing mushrooms.
What is the difference between an enlightened individual growing mushrooms and an enlightened individual who grows sweet corn?
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Its like a more blunt version of laissez faire. "An economic doctrine that opposes governmental regulation of or interference in commerce beyond the minimum necessary for a free-enterprise system to operate according to its own economic laws".
Yes, the government does not impose any regulation on the commercial exchange of mushrooms.
So, what is your point, once again? That someone is free to decide what they charge? What does that have to do with my questions?
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I made my own laws. Didnt allow those drug dealers to tell me how much money I can make. I just dont like to take advantage of people. So ya, you missed my point.
Yes, I fully understand what you are saying. I asked you questions pertaining to other aspects of what you said - that is what I was interested in discussing. So you decided how much to sell mushrooms for, big deal.
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I got to say my point did bring up more questions than there were answers. As did my last definition of laissez faire.
Then just say that when someone asks you a question you do not have an answer for, instead of avoiding the questions and directing comments towards me, such as "stupid questions", "big guy", "smart guy",etc.
Why pull an attitude with someone when they question what you say? Any emotional issues?
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Why do you think or dont think that making your own rules can go the way of "making less money"?
I don't think anything on that subject, and I am not pursuing discussion on that subject - my questions do not pertain to it, and it does not relate to the aspects of your post that I questioned.
Of course, you did ask me a question, and, in all fairness, in the spirit of discussion, I will answer it!
Obviously, when someone has a product, they can make choices as to how much money they wish to make. Typically, the total price is a combination of the cost of the product for the seller and a markup, in order to generate a profit.
Now, if you are saying that you have grown mushrooms and at times would charge nothing, and other times you might charge some amount, that's great. Obviously, the cost to you to produce the mushrooms is not that substantial, and it is not as though you are relying on any profit in order to sustain yourself.
Personally, I would share mushrooms with friends and family, and leave it at that. Its a choice.
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Derrrr.....
I know, we all lose the ability to properly function sometimes.
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Thats why if it was legal it would be easier to understand my point of view. I have my own take on drug dealers who believe they have a monopoly on their hands(and they take full advantage).
$30 to $50 an eighth is taking full advantage?
Please, I sell mushroom chairs for $27.88. The other day, a woman took over thirty of them off of my hands. Thank god more came in that night, and today, another woman bought fourteen of them. They are colorful, comfortable, and soft.
Now, are you telling me that a mushroom experience is worth the same as a mushroom chair?
What is the price of an eighth of mushrooms as compared to the price of an eighteen pack of beer? What is the difference in the quality of the experience between the two? Are three eighteen packs equal to an eighth of mushrooms?
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I think the whole 30 dollars thing threw you off.
Threw me off of what?
Peace.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
#5622578 - 05/12/06 08:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sporetacus said: AFOAF recently bragged about how he was selling eights for $50. "No one else has 'em so I can charge whatever I want."
Capitalism at its finest or ...?
From this post it is somewhat difficult to determine if this belongs in this forum lovely Sportacus. Maybe politics or the PUB would be better suited for this most interesting subject.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5622654 - 05/12/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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stemmer said: What I was saying was simple, I just didnt see why you needed to approach the simplicity of what I was saying by turning it into one of those annoying conversations someone will start in a philosophy class. You know, the never ending conversation.
I dont see the point of you asking me questions that you feel you already know the answer to. Your just waisting space in this thread.
Like someone will start in a philosophy class... philosophy forum... hhm....
I asked questions and was interested in discussing thoughts that you expressed. I was interested in further elaboration, expansion, an exchange of ideas and thoughts, to further develop those thoughts. I completely understand if you do not wish to engage in that type of behavior. I'm simply saying, don't act completely surprised when anyone wishes to do so, even with the ideas you have expressed.
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I have a tendancy to avoid reading peoples words when they are ranting and acting like they understand something that I dont.
Do you feel as though I have ranted in this thread, or acted like I understood something that you don't? I personally feel as though, while they were elaborate, I was pretty straight-forward and to the point with my statements. Also, I know nothing of your understanding, and do not make assumptions regarding your understanding, and I also do not concern myself with petty behaviors such as the ones you describe.
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So I guess your questions are hidden in the clusterfucked posts that I didnt read.
Clusterfucked? Its pretty simple, actually. Call and response. I highlight a specific statement to which I am responding, and then I include my response.
If I were to include all of my responses to these statements of yours as one huge section of text, without referencing specifically what I was replying to, then it would be clusterfucked.
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So what was your question for me? me--(a guy who simply has an opinion about how people should treat the whole mushroom dealing issue).
If you are honestly interested in knowing my question(s) for you, and you are also interested in answering them, then feel free to scroll up and either read or reread my replies. I would hate to become redundant!
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Its a personal choice.
I know; I stated as much in my previous reply, which you have claimed to not have read. Perhaps we reached an agreement, and you were not even aware of it?
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And no, I dont really know how much mushrooms would cost if they were made legal. You got me there. You could be right, they might still cost quite a bit.
You stated that, if mushrooms were legalized, then you would be able to make your point better. You stated that, if they were legalized, then drug dealers would not have a monopoly, that the prices would be lower.
If you don't actually know what the prices would be, and realize that they could still cost as much (if not more - taxes, regulations), then how would you be able to make your point better? Drug dealers do not have a monopoly on mushrooms, and are not able to prevent others from selling them for less. Just about anyone is able to grow mushrooms and sell them.
It just depends on whether or not someone wishes to be an entrepreneur, eh? If they do make that decision, as they assume the risks in doing so, it better be fucking worth it, right?
That's the question on both sides, is it worth it?
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Again, do you really have any questions for me? If so just ask me. Try to avoid quoting the hell out of me, and just ask a damn question that im willing to read.
I am who I am, and post as I post. I cannot conform to your expectations and requirements. I have already posed questions. Proper utilization of quotations is necessary in order to remove ambiguity. If you aren't willing to read my questions, in whatever form I present them, then I could care less if you will not answer them.
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Fireworks_god. I was actually bored enough to read your second to last clusterfuck of a post. Good god man! Could you please act more like an obnoxious kid who thinks he has the answers to everything. VERY snotty......So its obviously not worth reading your last post... Sorry for trying to get your ass out of my way with short hand writing. Thanks for correcting me. What I was originally saying is simple. What is most ridiculous is that we are on the same page here. You need to redirect your need to show how intelligent you are some other way, because you are obviously too smart to be waisting your energy on someones SIMPLE opinion about a subject that has no end. Do you even remember what the hell you were trying to ask me? If so, just ask.
By the way, none of the shit you have posted is streight forward. So howsbout being streight forward. What do you really want to know?
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
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I will answer any question you have If you can avoid being a ninny. I certainly am not going to scroll up and try to find what our problem is here.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
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I have already presented my statements. If you are unable to reply, then that's great. I note that you have no problem assuming aspects of my character and personality, expressing that I am like an obnoxious kid, that I am very snotty, that I am acting like a ninny, etc. etc. etc. etc.
I totally understand if you are unable to play the game.
Peace.
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Whats the game? Where is the question? Is this your own tweaked version of a copout? Dont expect me to do anything but ask these questions. Its just the way you presented yourself.
The game starts here dude. If you want to ask me a question thats fine. I just want to know what you are trying to ask/say. Im almost sure we believe in and know the same things about law, capitalism, and how much the mushroom experience is worth.
Im game. So what do you find to be so hard to understand about my way of doing things. Where do we go from here? Im "unable" to read your flighty condescending remarks. Like I said I was drunk, So I dont recall why you are still talking to me. SO I still dont know what you motive is. What the hell do you want big guy. A discussion? Well.... figure out a way to ask your so called simple questions. WHY THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING TO ME........... What the hell can I clarify for you. SOrry about the insulting comments, but I feel they were perfect for you. If you really want to keep responding to my every word I would think you know what your own questions are.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5622906 - 05/12/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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stemmer said: Dont expect me to do anything but ask these questions. Its just the way you presented yourself.
I personally did not care for the way you presented yourself, either.
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If you really want to keep responding to my every word I would think you know what your own questions are.
I know what my questions are. I already asked them. Even if I didn't remember them, I could read through once and know what they were. Why is that so difficult for you?
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What a joke. I know what my original statements were. SO what was your problem with them. Absolute cop out...........Thats sad. Enough with the laughing smiley. Hmmmm, same old fireworks_god. Why is that hard for me? because you are not worth my time anyways and I want to know what the hell your problem is....... What was your issue with my way of doing things? Were you possibly just ranting about nothing. I think so. This is your opportunity to nail me, so go ahead. I know what you have been doing this whole time. Why stop now? Grow some balls.... Anyways........Thanks for your time.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
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stemmer said: What a joke. I know what my original statements were. SO what was your problem with them.
You made certain statements; I asked certain questions pertaining to those statements. That is all.
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Why is that hard for me? because you are not worth my time anyways and I want to know what the hell your problem is.......
I'd ask you another question, something concerning that, if I am not worth my time, then why do you continue to.... but then again, asking questions has created enough trouble already.
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"I'd ask you another question, something concerning that, if I am not worth my time, then why do you continue to.... but then again, asking questions has created enough trouble already". Your obviously not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Im talking to you because you are absolutely hilarious. If you have a question just fucking ask. Do you expect anybody to even brows your condescending bullshit posts? So what is your problem? What is your motive? I know what mine is. So what the fuck is yours? Whats the problem?
My first three statements were not tainted by your bullshit. What is your problem with them? Why are you so annoying when people are saying something VERY simple.
Really dude! what the hell is your issue you want to discuss. If you asked the question without being a total doink I probably would have answered. So just ask, or grow some balls and ask.....
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
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Oh really?
well OK then........
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Mushrooms shouldn't be sold at ridiculous prices, such as $50/eighth, just like they shouldn't be taken as a party drug. By party drug I mean, in the same way as alcohol, not as a few trippers taking it and going to the forest or even some kind of psychedelic event. I am sure that all of us heard of stories of people getting trapped in their own private hell in their subconscious after taking some "shrooms to get fucked up", proceding by jumping out of buildings, getting naked in supermarkets, et cetera.
I've realized that whenever you go into the trip disrespecting the mushroom, it will not go by without consequences. The Teonanactl, the god of the sacred mushroom, is like a wise sensei, and has to be treated with the utmost respect. Whenever you fail to show it, it will retaliate with fury.
Also, take in the account that in the world of illegal drug trade, karma is a factor one cannot avoid. Whatever goes around, comes around. Say you sell to an individual an 1/8 for a modest price and give some solid advice on his first trip. He gets pulled over on his way home with the bag you just sold. The investigating officer will most likely give him the choice of ratting out his dealer and getting a possession charge dropped. The guy in trouble will remember your good deals and honest intentions, and is much more likely to bite the bullet and taking the charge than ratting you out. Now if you charged him $100 for a quarter for a night of him and his friend to trip, knowing your intentions, he will reconsider his stance with the police.
Describing this, an anecdote comes to mind. I was at a festival last summer, and a 40-year old man was trying to steal a pound of shrooms from a Family's tent. A pound can make a decent profit, especially if there are no costs in producing (or buying) the substance. He picked up the bag and as he started walking away, one of the Family members ran up to him with a straw and dusted him with ~5000mics of LSD. I remember that man falling down a hill two days later, getting up, screaming "I'm going FUCKING INSANE!!", and running away.
Even if you do not have a spiritual aspect to it whatsoever, the rule still applies. Psilocybin Magic Mushrooms are an intense psychedelic substance that should be treated with respect, and there are consequences for those who fail to do so. It ain't grass he's dealing, a trip is completely unpredictable, hence the term psyche-delic ("mind-manifesting").
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Fospher]
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Ok so I hashed things out with the shroom gods and the market keepers, weve all decided an 1/8 of pure cocain is worth 20 rupels.
Thats all you ever need to know he said, plus that he doesnt want too profit from the sales of the shrooms aslong as he gets a peice of the coke action, and maybe some philisophical conversation leasons from stemmer.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Springs]
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Im over it......... If I was a grower/mushroom dealer which I AM NOT, I would not jack up the price just because I could. In short, and when it comes to only mushrooms or psychedelic plants I would want the price to be an accurate reflection of how much work I feel like I did. The average ayahuasca brew, if made correctly can be far more intense than mushrooms. That could be sold for 30 dollars EASILY and you would be making a killing. If I was the one brewing the stuff, if made in bulk, each trip would be worth about 5-10 dollars to me. Again, because its an accurate reflection of how much work I feel like I did, including the cost of supplies. Thats just how I would do it when it comes to mushrooms. Its a personal choice. I have my reasons beyond the simple equasion I have presented. Those reasons have to do with an actual philosophy. Its a pretty psychedelic idea, so that part of it has more to do with my relationship with these substances and it is kind of hard to explain. 25 dollars is a great price for a potentially life changing experience. Like this guy who grew mushrooms and sold them at blues fest. He charged 20 dollars for 4 grams. We asked the old man why he sells them for so cheap(we didnt understand this mentallity back then). He said that he grows so many that this is what he needs to charge to make a very nice profit. Sure, he could have made an extra 5 or ten bucks per pop, but apparently he didnt want to be that guy. So many drug dealers often charge 30, because they didnt grow their own and they need to charge that much to make a profit. Dealing this shit out is certainly a bitch. So it also depends on how you choose to deal and how much you think that trouble is worth.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
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I dont value my time with money, if I spent 25 years growing one ayahuasca tree and only harvested one branch and only got 3 doses out of it and I took 2 doses myself, how much would the last be worth? Everything or nothing? Survival is not linked to values, its not like if you don't make that 10 bucks is going to affect you positively or negatively? Your philosiphy of profit or self worth is lame, how much is the mushroom making off the deal? Ive always hated the whole sale of drugs and how it works at all levels, who ever doesnt want us having these drugs is doing a good job at keeping us seperated through greed and fear.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Springs]
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"Your philosiphy of profit or self worth is lame, how much is the mushroom making off the deal"? ---> are you talking to me. Well, if so..................
Your ability to equate the way I choose to think about this subject, with a philosophy of profit or self worth is pretty lame. This is how I treat the whole sale of drugs thing, it does not mean what you have made it out to mean.
"how much would the last be worth? Everything or nothing"? ------I guess I just have no idea what you are trying to say, or how it conflicts with what I am saying. My answer to that twisted question is "something".
"Ive always hated the whole sale of drugs and how it works at all levels, who ever doesnt want us having these drugs is doing a good job at keeping us seperated through greed and fear". <----I guess I feel the same way. Is it customary to be totally disagreeable when talking about anything even remotely philosophical? I guess I just dont get where you are coming from.
When selling a psychedelic experience, I simply choose to look at it like more of a gift than a product to be "gotten rid of" or sold. Im not saying that your average dealer is even capable of giving such discounts without ripping his or her self off. Thats why if I was selling any hallucinogenic drugs I would choose to separate my self from "the sale of drugs" as much as is possible, (hense the cheaper price). Needless to say, I wouldnt sell drugs unless I was growing drugs. If they are hallucinogenic drugs then my way of looking at it is unique, and only has to apply to the way I do things. I dont expect everyone to understand why I am so giving when it comes to hallucinogenic drugs that I have grown(hypothetically). I have not even thoroughly explained why I choose to look at homegrown hallucinogens as gifts, so step off my dick.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
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Here is my reply, which I was working on while tripping.
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stemmer said: Your obviously not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Hey buddy, if you have a whetstone, feel free to let me borrow it.
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Im talking to you because you are absolutely hilarious.
You mean it isn't just my charming good looks?
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If you have a question just fucking ask. Do you expect anybody to even brows your condescending bullshit posts?
To descend is to propel oneself backward; I ask you, is ascension not an enertaining notion to consider?
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So what is your problem?
I don't have problems; I have oppurtunities.
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What is your motive?
An interesting question. To experience life, I guess. I think I used to concern myself with more directly experiencing and perceiving life, but I then had the realization that one simply experiences life as it presents itself. One can strive to remove obstructions that dampen our awareness and our experience, but yet one's experience is constantly fully present, even if obstructions that limit our awareness of that presence exist.
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I know what mine is. So what the fuck is yours? Whats the problem?
There is no problem, and there never was. Is the desire to communicate and to partake in discussion naturally something that indicates the existance of a problem? I ask you, what is the problem?
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My first three statements were not tainted by your bullshit.
They weren't tainted by my bullshit, but they were tainted by yours. See?
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What is your problem with them?
I already asked questions about these statements. I had no problem with them, but felt the need to inquire deeper into the matter.
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Why are you so annoying when people are saying something VERY simple.
Hey buddy, all I did was ask some questions, regardless of how simple the statements they are in regards to are. When that becomes a crime, well, once more will I be a criminal.
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Really dude! what the hell is your issue you want to discuss.
As I recall, I was interested in discussing mushrooms. I was intrigued by the notion of intercourse concerning the retail market of mushrooms. If you aren't game, that's cool. I simply think that entrepreneurs dealing with mushrooms are going to be of a different character than those involved with the aforementioned sweet corn investments, although there is no real difference amongst them.
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If you asked the question without being a total doink I probably would have answered. So just ask, or grow some balls and ask.....
Interesting quote. I think I need to start a collection and save this one. Start a journal, simply taking note of the temperature in the morning, the afternoon, the evening, and the night. The date. Take record of the numbers. The store's sales. My department's sales. Last year to this year. Everyone's sales, honestly. I need to carry a notebook. I also need a cell phone, and a portable mp3 player with Boards of Canada and Celtic Cross on it.
I'll take note of my own funds as well, of mine and my girlfriend. Bills.
I think I need to apply myself to this synthesizer that is seated at my left side. Honestly, why not? Maybe chill and watch Return of the King? Have a good one, my friend.
Last night was something else.
Hey buddy, if you have a problem with me, fucking deal with it. If you can't handle being questioned and being replied to in the manner in which I do so, hit the fucking ignore button right now. Why waste your time and energy whining about it, eh? As you said, grow some fucking balls and deal with it like a fucking man.
Peace.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
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lol your taking this subject a little to seriously, ive kinda been treating this subject as a joke, if im standing on your dick I wasnt aware, im sure it smarts so Ill step off. Im sorry I cant understand your unique way of of doing things originally. Im twisting shit because you make it twistable, your arguing with your own philosiphy it seams like "Thats why if I was selling any hallucinogenic drugs I would choose to separate my self from "the sale of drugs" as much as is possible, (hense the cheaper price)"
"I dont expect everyone to understand why I am so giving when it comes to hallucinogenic drugs that I have grown(hypothetically). I have not even thoroughly explained why I choose to look at homegrown hallucinogens as gifts, so step off my dick."
I agree they are gifts, gifts dont require compensation even at a bargin price. Im not trying to be argumentative, I didnt say anything in a negative manner, sorry if you misconcieved it.
Im just replying to the text I see, not you.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Fospher]
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Fospher said: Mushrooms shouldn't be sold at ridiculous prices, such as $50/eighth, just like they shouldn't be taken as a party drug. By party drug I mean, in the same way as alcohol, not as a few trippers taking it and going to the forest or even some kind of psychedelic event.
They should not be taken that way, eh?
The last time I was aware, it is simply a substance that an individual is free to use as they wish.
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I am sure that all of us heard of stories of people getting trapped in their own private hell in their subconscious after taking some "shrooms to get fucked up", proceding by jumping out of buildings, getting naked in supermarkets, et cetera.
Yes, but how often does that really happen? I've been around people back in high school that merely concerned themselves with partying, alcohol, cocaine, any substance they could get their hands on. They tripped when it came around, in an alcohol party scenario. I don't recall them acting in the manners you describe.
Naturally, set and setting are essential when tripping on mushrooms, and yet, for these guys, they were in their accustomed set and setting. No problems.. they probably drank while they were on mushrooms, too.
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I've realized that whenever you go into the trip disrespecting the mushroom, it will not go by without consequences. The Teonanactl, the god of the sacred mushroom, is like a wise sensei, and has to be treated with the utmost respect. Whenever you fail to show it, it will retaliate with fury.
Seems like more of a fairy tale myth than anything within the realm of reality.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Springs]
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Springs said: I agree they are gifts, gifts dont require compensation even at a bargin price. Im not trying to be argumentative, I didnt say anything in a negative manner, sorry if you misconcieved it.
Im just replying to the text I see, not you.
One lesson you will learn is that some individuals interpret being questioned or sometimes even replied to in a negative manner, as their sense of self is derived from their ideas, or perhaps from the sense that their ideas are "right".
Essentially, they need to get over themselves, as we all must do.
Oh, and also, using quote tags and emoticons makes you a horrible person. At least, to those with no sense of humor...
Peace.
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fireworks_god said: They should not be taken that way, eh?
The last time I was aware, it is simply a substance that an individual is free to use as they wish.
You can't classify these substances with the same group as say coke or meth, which are free to be used as pleased. They are not a different ball park of drugs, they're a whole another fucking sport.
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Yes, but how often does that really happen? I've been around people back in high school that merely concerned themselves with partying, alcohol, cocaine, any substance they could get their hands on. They tripped when it came around, in an alcohol party scenario. I don't recall them acting in the manners you describe.
You haven't known people like that, I have. Does it mean that we are both correct? No, it means that personal bias does not set a point. But the fact that those scenarios are very likely, does.
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Seems like more of a fairy tale myth than anything within the realm of reality.
A 'trip' is more like a fairy tale than reality. Heh.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Fospher]
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fireworks_god........... Wow, You actually were talking to me while tripping. What a waist of time. Considering that what I was saying was so very simple, and hardly even interests ME. I just have a weird way of looking at the whole drug sales thing. I should have premised what I was saying a bit better. I dont know why the way I do things should deserve such ridicule. Its hardly a philosophy, and has nothing to do with capitalism, objectivism, or whatever. Dont worry about stepping off my dick. Come to think of it, I like the feeling.
"Essentially, they need to get over themselves, as we all must do"<----now that was funny coming from fireworks_god. Its all good. Enough of this petty fussing over the way one person deals with drugs. The ideas I presented are not flawed in anyway, so I should have said "you could step off my dick if you want to". My last post was fine with me. And sorry for the insults, I just thought the whole conversation(if you can call it that) was very funny. I added fuel to the fire for kicks because my message was already long gone. SO ya sorry about that fireworks_god. I was drunk, and you were tripping. Thats a hell of a mix. Were all good I hope.
Edited by stemmer (05/13/06 07:06 PM)
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5625741 - 05/13/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Were all good I hope.
Ouch, you just gave Fireworks his favorite opening.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Icelander]
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Im absolutely sure he loved that. He might realize that he needs to get over himself, because he is obviously a smart guy, and I mean it when I say "were all good I HOPE". I actually have no real problems with the guy. I know what im talking about. So if someone wants to wonder about why I feel this way about hallucinogens, thats all good.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5625836 - 05/13/06 07:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Im sure he doesnt take back anything he says while tripping, or place blame on a substance for his actions.
Either way, if you dont understand other people points of view or even the opposite point of view I cant really expect a good philisophical conversation. Dont contemplate a paradox
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5625849 - 05/13/06 07:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think he has trouble with personalisms. He's a smart chap all right and he loves the debate.
P.S. PM me and I'll tell you what I really think of him.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Icelander]
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lol I dont judge, Its all good in my books.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Springs]
#5625891 - 05/13/06 07:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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There was no "point of view", just alot of stuff I was not willing to read. I know what I was talking about and am willing to engage in any discussion. What I was saying was quite simple. Im just what you might call "a big fan of paragraph form". If you dont follow that form, well........ its boring to read and I have a hard time taking you seriously. Quoting someone a million times is a good way to make it look like your having a philosophical conversation. When you think about it though, your creating your own conversation. What was I supposed to do, requote my own quotes/his reactions to them, and then add my reaction too. To understand an idea you often will have a hard time getting the point if you only look at the small parts rather than the whole.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5625917 - 05/13/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Im sure you could have answered them in your own style of writing, im sure most here are capable two understand many formatts of reading. There was a good thread on lazyness by someone, it was good.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Springs]
#5625936 - 05/13/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nah, im just saying its not worth my time "two" read little snippits of information made by a guy who obviously has no point. Thanks for the enlightenment.
I am definately a fan of the paragraph form though. Its better to approach the whole rather than its small parts. I dont feel like someone is actually reading my words if they approach each small part seperately. I know exactly what you meant when you said,"im sure most here are capable two understand many formatts of reading". Nothing wrong with that.....
But if I wanted to, I could be a prick and call you lazy. I could take that one sentance and reply with, "didnt you mean, im sure most people here are capable of understanding many formats of reading".
Edited by stemmer (05/13/06 08:06 PM)
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5626240 - 05/13/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey man I was just refering to a good thread with laziness as the topic and it in my opinion can be related to this situation. Im not diging at you, I dont mean any offence, I could describe it with other words and put smilies after the words. I dont really get why you dont read someones reply just because its harder for you to understand.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Springs]
#5626249 - 05/13/06 08:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You all are a hoot.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5626257 - 05/13/06 08:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey can anyone sum up this thread for me? I'm a bit too drunk to read it all I think...
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Ive definatly lol alot to this thread
Edited by Springs (05/13/06 09:21 PM)
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shrooms cost 2 much you dont have 2 buy em fuck that i want them and they should be cheaper im smarter than you so im right no im smarter than you so im right [insert swordfight] fuck you no fuck you sorry for saying fuck you, i just think im right, so fuck you anyways
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: fresh313]
#5626389 - 05/13/06 09:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shrooms around here are around 10 dollars per gram. Per gram. When they're scarce they're 15 dollars per gram. This is what my friends tell me anyways, I was super surprised when I heard that.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: fresh313]
#5626434 - 05/13/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yep, fuck that guy.
What I was originally saying is simple, no reason to misread the ENTIRE thing. Im only still here because I think it is funny.
Also, Why dont I read posts just because I dont like the format? The format sucks and so does the person voicing his so called opinion. Its called having respect for your audience and he just doesnt get that. Im not expecting poetry here. Just a coherent Idea. Hes like a three year old kid. Wont stop asking questions(really stupid ones I might add). Im here for my own entertainment. If someone wants to be a ninny I will humor them. I get a rise out of it. So ya, for the sake of the thread and all its come to be, id like to thank that kid for the entertainment he has provided me. Just to see the effort he put into saying absolutely nothing has been quite the treat. VERY funny.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5626654 - 05/13/06 10:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You really do need to get over yourself, dude.
Peace.
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Sorry but im over myself, just have not quite figured you out my rockstar friend.
Its all good, or no wait, its not. Your still being the same old one-liner type kid who still isnt too sure why he was trying to tear me a new one in the first place. I hope to see you next time youre taking shrooms. That should be fun but it will still be a waist of my time and most certainly yours.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5626719 - 05/13/06 10:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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stemmer said: Its all good, or no wait, its not. Your still being the same old one-liner type kid who still isnt too sure why he was trying to tear me a new one in the first place.
Yes, I was never trying to "tear you a new one" in the first place. You misperceive reality, which is why you continue to whine and whine.
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I hope to see you next time youre taking shrooms. That should be fun but it will still be a waist of my time and most certainly yours.
My time is never wasted.
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Oh, I beg to differ about you waisting your time and me misperceiving reality. The reality is well, something Im not about to get banned for...................
You may not have been trying to tear me a new one, but you were waisting your time from the get go. You were also very snotty from the beginning.... I would have even been more likely to read your clusterfuck of responses to my simple point of view if you had not used all the laughing smileys and such bull shit. So ya, you came off as snotty, VERY snotty. Grow up dude. If you have a real question ask me. I wont hold your previous posts to myself and others against you.
And know your audience from now on.... Im not really the kind of guy who is often looked down on by some angry, abrasive kid. I dont like that one bit...... and have some fucking respect from now on while you are at it. If not just for the sake of the next person who says something simple, which is ordinarily only to be shat upon by your simple ass.
Edited by stemmer (05/13/06 11:00 PM)
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5626893 - 05/13/06 11:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You know... every moment lives on as its own existence, through eternity...
Time is a really interesting phenomenon
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
#5626898 - 05/13/06 11:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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dude never pay more than $25 for an eighth
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5626901 - 05/13/06 11:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Stemmer.......
Chill man!
fireworks_god was not trying to be snotty or rude.
He was simply trying to understand........fully understand......where you were coming from.
that's all
he does this by asking questions
If you don't like having your thoughts questioned......even in the most basic way
don't come to the S&P forum, 'cause that's what this forum is all about
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: niteowl]
#5626948 - 05/13/06 11:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, he is indeed a snotty and rude person via the internet. It doesnt take much to realize that that is just how he asks stupid questions that he already knows the answer to.
I have no "real" problem with him or in other words, I couldnt care less. I cant say I read all of his comments because of the way he presented himself though. That sort of crap is not worth my time.
Edited by stemmer (05/14/06 12:17 AM)
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5627082 - 05/14/06 12:33 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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stemmer you have totaly overeacted. at any moment u can just close the internet if its that bad. you dont even know him. Smoke some buds
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: mikeownow]
#5627156 - 05/14/06 12:54 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Again, "No real problem" here......
I overeacted to another person's assinine overeaction. It was all in good fun, and warranted.
Like I have said, If I didnt enjoy bickering with this fool I wouldnt be here.
Has it ever occured to anyone that being chilled and smoking buds has nothing to do with this guy being rude provided the nothingness that he has been so quick to talk about. Im just pointing out the obvious........ Just trying to entertain myself here. Ya, im pretty selfish, and dont care what that dude was saying for the most part. Id smoke some buds, but I sure as shit wouldnt visit this thread after doing so. If I did though, I might come back and say something like, "WOW, that guy is so rude and all knowing that its funny". SO ya, this is funny to me......
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5627207 - 05/14/06 01:13 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Its over though, I hope......
SO what do you all think about the price of mushrooms...... <-----If I may use a condescending smiley myself
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5627426 - 05/14/06 03:07 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's surprisingly high if you know what actually goes into producing them.
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I know plenty about producing them and even 30 dollars per eighth is pretty sound for some growers. It depends on the grower. Many people use mycelium water and the same supplies they have used for years(aside from BRF and vermiculite for example).
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5627522 - 05/14/06 05:15 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think your confused on which forum this is in, if you want to discuss the "Philosophy & Spirituality" of the price of shrooms then by all means stay, if you want to talk about the price of shrooms there's the "The Psychedelic Experience" or even the "pub"
We are not trying to nit pick or be condescending. Asking questions, and using smilies is not negative.
Your opinions on what constitutes a waist of time and what the cost of high priced hallucinogens differs from other members, you can keep saying you have "no real problem" but if you keep having a fake problem towards someone or something in this thread its still a problem, an one you hesitate and avoid. Don't judge here man, smilies can and are used in with no good intentions and warmth, why make them out to be negative?!
This is a good thread, for many reasons.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Springs]
#5627525 - 05/14/06 05:20 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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why cant i find the psychedelic experience anymore? i dont see it on the forum list.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Deviate]
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Its the very first one
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Springs]
#5627536 - 05/14/06 05:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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the first one for me is the pub. heres what my page looks like:
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Deviate]
#5627672 - 05/14/06 08:48 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Go to the "Jump to" drop-down at the bottom of this page. It has ALL the forums, not just the "Community"
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5627707 - 05/14/06 09:14 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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stemmer said: You may not have been trying to tear me a new one, but you were waisting your time from the get go.
I do not concern myself with other individuals' opinions on my behaviors, in regards to whether or not they are a waste of my time. Frankly, you do not know who I am, why I engage in the behaviors that I do, or what I seek to gain from my experiences.
As I already stated, I do not waste my time.
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You were also very snotty from the beginning....
Excuse me, I think I've had a sinus cold. Do you happen to have a box of kleenex available?
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I would have even been more likely to read your clusterfuck of responses to my simple point of view if you had not used all the laughing smileys and such bull shit.
You know what? That's great. If, for whatever reason, you feel compelled to not read my posts, then don't. If you feel the need to let me know why, then send me a private message telling me why. Don't drag a thread off-topic simply to bitch, moan, whine, and complain about it. If you don't wish to read or reply to me, then don't.
Not to mention the fact that refusing to read someone's reply because of their usage of emoticons is pretty petty reasoning.
It's an emoticon, oh my god, don't hurt me!!!
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So ya, you came off as snotty, VERY snotty.
Emoticon usage + using quote tags + asking simple questions in regards to simple point of view = coming off as snotty, very snotty. Yes, that makes sense to me.
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I dont like that one bit...... and have some fucking respect from now on while you are at it.
Respect is earned. If you have to demand that someone has respect for you, you obviously do not deserve it.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5627717 - 05/14/06 09:16 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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stemmer said: That sort of crap is not worth my time.
Which is why you have made response after response after response after response after response after response after response about it, not to mention a few private messages as well?
If it is not worth your time, then why reply? Why not put me on ignore? You aren't fooling anyone with your "I'm above this bullshit" claim.
Peace.
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Deviate said: Philosophy & Spirituality (10 viewing) General philosophical discussion covering the topics of epistemology, ethics, metaphysics, and aesthetics. This forum is debate oriented and designed for those who seek a lively discussion full of dissenting opinions and rebutted arguments. Personal attacks will not be tolerated. If you seek a forum to express your ideas without any criticism, try our Mysticism, Religion & the Paranormal forum.
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ou are free to present pretty much anything of a philosophical nature you want for consideration - you can even espouse ideas most people would find ludicrous or repugnant. What you can't do is attack the person making the ludicrous or repugnant statements. You can bring to bear all your rhetorical skills and articulate arguments in an attempt to expose the idea under discussion as ludicrous, repugnant or whatever - as a matter of fact you are encouraged to do so - but the acceptable method is to direct all your weaponry at the idea being presented, not at the one presenting the idea.
If you choose to post in this forum be prepared to have your ideas and opinions challenged, refuted, disputed, rebutted, analyzed, shredded, pooh-poohed, and yes - even supported. If having your beliefs, opinions, and positions scrutinized critically makes you uncomfortable, this is not the forum for you.
Its a damn shame no one ever reads this information.
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post after post after post. We seem to have something in common. And neither of us will let go of what I hope is just for fun.
Its over dude.
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adjust said: It's surprisingly high if you know what actually goes into producing them.
What does go into producing them?
A great amount of risk, most notably. Obviously, the process of growth itself is relatively simple and inexpensive. The same can be said for marijuana, and yet it costs $40-50 a quarter. Certainly, due to the increased risk of growing and selling these products, they cost more than what would simply cover the expenses involved in producing and distributing them.
Availability is also a factor to take into consideration. In smaller areas of the Midwest, mushrooms don't exactly come around often, and people will be willing to pay more when they actually do. The price is relative, and dependant on many factors.
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its not really that easy to grow bulk amounts of mushrooms takes alot of time learning, and time spent designing and tweaking and time during production. so while the layman may think, yah all u need is some spores jars grains and shit, its just not that simple.
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Like I said, ten or fifteen dollars a gram is too much imo, and that's what friends tell me they are worth around here. Setting up a bulk grow is not as hard as growing a bunch of pot.
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i would say mushrooms are much harder to grow than pot.. pot is a weed u know.. but ive never really grown pot so i cant say for sure.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: fresh313]
#5628783 - 05/14/06 03:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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fresh313 said: its not really that easy to grow bulk amounts of mushrooms takes alot of time learning, and time spent designing and tweaking and time during production. so while the layman may think, yah all u need is some spores jars grains and shit, its just not that simple.
Certainly. It is a worthy endeavor and it is really an art.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: fresh313]
#5628813 - 05/14/06 03:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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If it was an outdoor grow I would agree, but for an indoor hydroponic grow that would be hard. For one your whole house would smell. Then again I've never grown either
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There is alot of shitty advise out there and its probably why people think even the easiest, most care free method is hard(because its not very successful if you do it incorrectly). It is definately an art. Mushrooms are VERY easy to grow and cost very little. What costs the most(the spores), are not needed to be used with further cycles so at some point(likely the second Batch of flushes) the grower is making his money almost out of thin air given the fact that he still has the most costly supplies at hand after the first grow. Growing bulk mushrooms for the most part has to involve casings that are far more complex than simply fruiting cakes. If you have enough space, a large heat pad(or a few) and enough trash-can-like containers, you can grow in bulk only using cakes.
At some point "my friend" started using less than half pint jars(sounds silly). (Faster growth within the jars). We thought that it would be a funny experiment to see how much, and how fast we could grow them. It was not as fruitful, but was still very nice and the product was ready to eat much faster than with half pints. We just wanted to see how easy it really is even with 1/3rd pint cakes. Its pretty simple, usless true bulk via casings is your goal.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5630566 - 05/14/06 10:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Indoor cannabis in bulk is way easier to grow then bulk indoor mushrooms.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5630730 - 05/14/06 11:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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That does shed some light on the fact that neither takes a brain surgeon.
I was not comparing the two.
Thats a good point EQ. A nice quality seed doesnt take much to grow. For the most part, its not going to take the brains it takes to grow shrooms "in bulk".
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
#5631370 - 05/15/06 04:26 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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A nice quality seed doesn't take much to grow. For the most part, its not going to take the brains it takes to grow shrooms "in bulk".
How true.
Shrooms are a much more technical hobby.
Weed can get technical, but you don't have to.
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: niteowl]
#5631437 - 05/15/06 05:38 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think its apples and oranges to compair the gowth of a plant to fungi.
One is neither harder nor easier, what you put in is what you get out.
hehe just had the thought its probably more practicale to compair apple to oranages than it would be ganj and cubes. :p
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